Now What Are We Going to do About the 25 Mile Rule.

12bonsai said:
Make sure Ron Paul gets elected then we would not have to worry as much. ....

Another point is what ever happened to "grandfather clauses". Wouldn't everyone be covered by a "grandfather clause".
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One day we are illegal, then the next you can cultivate for personal medical use, then another day you are illegal again. WHAT MADNESS...

What ever happened to our civil liberties? Isn't the law supposed to protect them? Remember the ones they taught you in the old school of "Life, Liberty and Property".
 
ive heard theres a law that requires equal protection under the law, has anybody heard of it? supposadly people are claiming that if you live inside the 25 miles and cant grow than its not equal protection under the law, its discrimination.
 
just because the suit was thrown out does not mean this is the end of stopping the dispensaries. brewer and her AG Horne will continue to fight them much to the benefit of current patients ad caregivers. there are three ways which the 25 mile rule could be changed.
1. pass another voter approved initiative on the next ballot stipulating the new law. this would require a petition with signatures and then the measure would have to be passed by the people.
2. the legislature could change the rule or how it is interpreted. given the political climate of the state legislature, i dont see a request being aknowledge by the legislature unless there is a large petition written up with many signatures.
3. a judge could deem the portion of the law unconstitutional based on equal protection. as someone stated above one could argue that the 25 mile rule as it is written today is a violation of the equal protection act and therefore unenforceable.
 
irieie said:
just because the suit was thrown out does not mean this is the end of stopping the dispensaries. brewer and her AG Horne will continue to fight them much to the benefit of current patients ad caregivers. there are three ways which the 25 mile rule could be changed.
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irieie said:
1. pass another voter approved initiative on the next ballot stipulating the new law. this would require a petition with signatures and then the measure would have to be passed by the people.
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VERY possible if all patients and caregivers came together!!
irieie said:
2. the legislature could change the rule or how it is interpreted. given the political climate of the state legislature, i dont see a request being aknowledge by the legislature unless there is a large petition written up with many signatures.
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Likely will not happen!
irieie said:
3. a judge could deem the portion of the law unconstitutional based on equal protection. as someone stated above one could argue that the 25 mile rule as it is written today is a violation of the equal protection act and therefore unenforceable.
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Good idea... Plant count could be questioned with the same premise!
 
All I can say is that the dispensaries will be no different than the Cali dispensaries. Every price will be the same 400.00 zips will be the norm. I mean just look at all the "compassion clubs" the pricing is basically the same, and you will have your handful of shady dispensaries. I am by no means broke and make a very good living but I just find it absolutely retarded to pay 400 an ounce, thus about 4 -5 years ago I ventured into cultivating.
 
is it the constitution of the equal protection act is under?
also has anybody else noticed that the prices for zips has gone up since law has passed? ive been told that everyones charging at least $325 a zip for medical or what I would call sub medical?
 
whitegato777 said:
is it the constitution of the equal protection act is under?
also has anybody else noticed that the prices for zips has gone up since law has passed? ive been told that everyones charging at least $325 a zip for medical or what I would call sub medical?
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300-325 I wont bitch about from a dispensary but taking it to 400 dollars an ounce WTF is that ?? Thats what people pay a dealer before it was legal.
 
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he Equal Protection Clause, part of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, provides that "no state shall ... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."[SUP][1][/SUP] The Equal Protection Clause can be seen as an attempt to secure the promise of the United States' professed commitment to the proposition that "all men are created equal"[SUP][2][/SUP] by empowering the judiciary to enforce that principle against the states.[SUP][3][/SUP] The Fourteenth Amendment Equal Protection Clause applies only to state governments, but the requirement of equal protection has been read to apply to the federal government as a component of Fifth Amendment due process.
 
Time to start getting serious about the "25 Mile Rule"


The time is NOW!!!


Jan Brewer plans to resolve all Lawsuits pertaining to the Rules of the Medical Marijuana Act before allowing dispensaries to dispense medicine.

HINT::
"25 Mile Rule" LAWSUIT
 
I'm far from a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure not much that can be done about the 25 miles without voters approval. That rule was not set by AZDHS, it's IN Prop 203 itself. If the state had the authority to change anything, we wouldn't be worrying about 25 miles...

However, I could be wrong and I'd definitely like to know what exactly has to be done to get it removed.
 
Well being up here in Flagstaff, I've learned how to draw out the courts. Snowbowl has been in a legal battle over snowmaking for the last ten years. Native Americans have for ten years successfully stalled thier snowmaking attempts in court. The San Francisco Peaks are sacred for the local Native Americans and they don't want reclaimed water on their sacred mountain (the water in question is reclaimed Flagstaff water). They also argue that the runoff containing wastewater effluent will effect the meadows where certain members collect medicine to be used in ceremonies, and for healing.

Long story short. If no dispensary is allowed to open until ALL lawsuits are settled, this could take a while if properly played out. Though it would be nice if we could grow our own superb quality medicine, and if we choose, purchase from the shops. They can be a good source for just about anything associated with Therapeutic Cannabis. Though if they open, we will be their slaves under the current law. Who put that fucking 25 mile rule in there anyway. It looked bad the first time I read the law, and never even thought of growing until two months after I got my card, and thought it seemed like a cool hobby that would save me money, while providing me with organic medicine. My own Victory garden, if I may.
 
apothecarist said:
I'm far from a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure not much that can be done about the 25 miles without voters approval. That rule was not set by AZDHS, it's IN Prop 203 itself. If the state had the authority to change anything, we wouldn't be worrying about 25 miles...

However, I could be wrong and I'd definitely like to know what exactly has to be done to get it removed.
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No matter what is voted in, it still has to meet state standards, the 25 mile rule is illegal, according to state law. Should be an easy fix as we all know how the AZ legislature hates rights being violated. Well, it sounded good until legislature is mentioned... This should be easily remedied by the committee that said the new law met state standards of equality when it did not.
 
taekwondoguy said:
Why did the people that drew up 203 even include the stupid 25 mile rule?
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The current "conspiracy theory" is that the authors of the bill, MPP, are heavily funded by dispensary owners. The law was crafted to ensure maximum profits to the main supporters of the bill. The official response from MPP would be along the lines of "Arizona has no support for a 'grow-your-own' style law". I would also imagine that they would spout off some nonsense about making mmj more "non-profit" and safer with tested and quality assured meds.
 
MurshDawg said:
The current "conspiracy theory" is that the authors of the bill, MPP, are heavily funded by dispensary owners. The law was crafted to ensure maximum profits to the main supporters of the bill. The official response from MPP would be along the lines of "Arizona has no support for a 'grow-your-own' style law". I would also imagine that they would spout off some nonsense about making mmj more "non-profit" and safer with tested and quality assured meds.
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funny how regulated a republican state can be.
 
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