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high|hgih

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SEE! DONT YOU GUYS SEE?! Neither side is right jesus christ thats always how it is in every religious conversation ever. Theres one side, the other side, and the truth. At least the Buddhists kinda scraped on that with the whole middle path thing but they aren't right either!!
 

Hepheastus420

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what does it matter ? Fuckin ell bro , ? Let people live life, without your rediculous made up god ruling it , what does it matter ? Are you fuckin serious ? Do you care about man kind ?
You think life dosent exist without your stupid god ? Of course it matters, we are talking about life , life without your stupid rules and your stupid religious boundaries , you know life exists without your silly rules ? Imagine for one second i created a world with a completely different set of rules than your religion , then what ? You still say 'who cares ' ? It just shows how brainwashed and ignorant stupid people like you are .i dont mean to be offensive to you personaly ( coz i see you as a sheeple ) but wtf , you dont care if religion gives you a false veiw of life ? Thats some fucked up crazy logic my friend .
Good point. I'm saying that if the person had to turn to religion to obtain a sense of "life" then what does it matter if someone like jocko thinks its actually draining their lives? The person had no feeling of life before so what does it matter how they got their life? If the person can obtain a "life" without religion then cool for them.. But the people that chose religion want that life and are actually gaining life not having it sucked away... I just didn't feel like going into detail.
 

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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good point. I'm saying that if the person had to turn to religion to obtain a sense of "life" then what does it matter if someone like jocko thinks its actually draining their lives? The person had no feeling of life before so what does it matter how they got their life? If the person can obtain a "life" without religion then cool for them.. But the people that chose religion want that life and are actually gaining life not having it sucked away... I just didn't feel like going into detail.
they are not gaining life they are gaining something someone has created for a substatute for life .
 

Hepheastus420

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SEE! DONT YOU GUYS SEE?! Neither side is right jesus christ thats always how it is in every religious conversation ever. Theres one side, the other side, and the truth. At least the Buddhists kinda scraped on that with the whole middle path thing but they aren't right either!!
Do you know what the point of an argument dude? It is to learn something and gain some useful knowledge. We argue to se what is right (not who is right) so someday we won't have to argue about this stuff anymore. We also argue to get good points across to people who didn't see those points prior to the argument.


BTW, I like your idea on floating.
 

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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Good point. I'm saying that if the person had to turn to religion to obtain a sense of "life" then what does it matter if someone like jocko thinks its actually draining their lives? The person had no feeling of life before so what does it matter how they got their life? If the person can obtain a "life" without religion then cool for them.. But the people that chose religion want that life and are actually gaining life not having it sucked away... I just didn't feel like going into detail.
SO BEFORE SOMEONE TAUGHT YOU ABOUT RELIGION , YOU WERE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO TEACH YOU ABOUT LIFE? OR WERE YOU JUST ROLLING WITH IT? , HOW DIFFERENT DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE NOW IF A PEER HADNT 'INTERFEREED ' WITH YOUR MIND ? WHY DOSENT ANY OTHER ANIMAL ON THIS PLANET NEED THIS INTERFERENCE ? THEY JUST GET ON WITH IT , WITHOUT ANY BULLSHIT RELIGION .WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR SO SUPERIOR ?
DO YOU REAlly 'choose ' religion ? or is it taught to you ? , i reckon if you got to 18 to 21 years old without hearing a single word about religion , if someone then tried to convince you of this god , you would laugh in there face , this is where religion wins cause they target children . innocent minds just rolling with life , get taught hidious religious beliefs , otherwise religion wouldnt work .
 

Hepheastus420

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Well for others... "life" is having a reason to live... Religion can teach this reason. People realize everyday that one good reason to live is to send a message of love that they learned from religion. I'm not saying religion is the only way to learn this lesson. I'm just saying that religion helps aid people to the quest of living life.

I live just because I enjoy living.. Not because of any afterlife that is promised to me.. And I'm sure a large amount of religious people would agree with that.

I may be wrong, but religion definetely doesn't suck the life out of people.
 

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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Well for others... "life" is having a reason to live... Religion can teach this reason. People realize everyday that one good reason to live is to send a message of love that they learned from religion. I'm not saying religion is the only way to learn this lesson. I'm just saying that religion helps aid people to the quest of living life.

I live just because I enjoy living.. Not because of any afterlife that is promised to me.. And I'm sure a large amount of religious people would agree with that.

I may be wrong, but religion definetely doesn't suck the life out of people.
like i said religion is something that is taught to you , you would have no idea of a god unless it was taught to you .
 

Hepheastus420

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SO BEFORE SOMEONE TAUGHT YOU ABOUT RELIGION , YOU WERE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO TEACH YOU ABOUT LIFE? OR WERE YOU JUST ROLLING WITH IT? , HOW DIFFERENT DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE NOW IF A PEER HADNT 'INTERFEREED ' WITH YOUR MIND ? WHY DOSENT ANY OTHER ANIMAL ON THIS PLANET NEED THIS INTERFERENCE ? THEY JUST GET ON WITH IT , WITHOUT ANY BULLSHIT RELIGION .WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR SO SUPERIOR ?
DO YOU REAlly 'choose ' religion ? or is it taught to you ? , i reckon if you got to 18 to 21 years old without hearing a single word about religion , if someone then tried to convince you of this god , you would laugh in there face , this is where religion wins cause they target children . innocent minds just rolling with life , get taught hidious religious beliefs , otherwise religion wouldnt work .
I sent myself out on a quest to find the meaning of life when I was 15. I rode my bike to the church across my old neighborhood. It fucking sucked there... But they did have many great lessons that honestly give me a reason to live. Honestly, without what I've learned from religion, I would have blown my brains out years ago.

I wouldn't be different.. Maybe a little more depressed but that's about it.

Animals are told how to live.. That's why you have packs and dominance.

I don't believe I'm superior at all... I'm actually pretty ashamed of myself.


I chose religion. Of course I don't speak for everyone though.

Religion doesn't "work".. It is just a set of beliefs.. For many, it's these very beliefs that make life worth living.
 

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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Well for others... "life" is having a reason to live... Religion can teach this reason. People realize everyday that one good reason to live is to send a message of love that they learned from religion. I'm not saying religion is the only way to learn this lesson. I'm just saying that religion helps aid people to the quest of living life.

I live just because I enjoy living.. Not because of any afterlife that is promised to me.. And I'm sure a large amount of religious people would agree with that.

I may be wrong, but religion definetely doesn't suck the life out of people.
what about the hatred that is taught in the bible , you say it like religion is all love and [eace when anyone who has actually read the bible knows its full of hatred .
 

Hepheastus420

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like i said religion is something that is taught to you , you would have no idea of a god unless it was taught to you .
Which makes me curious as to who and why the first person thought of god or why so many of our ancestors tried so hard to worship whatever god they believe in.. You may say out of fear, but many ancient religions didn't follow a "hell" and their god was actually very peaceful.
 

Hepheastus420

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what about the hatred that is taught in the bible , you say it like religion is all love and [eace when anyone who has actually read the bible knows its full of hatred .
I didn't say it wasn't full of hatred.. I said that I took the good because only the good gave me reason to live. Yeah that's called cherry picking and it goes against Christianity but I do it anyways because I am free and I chose to do that. If I was really forced to follow religion then I would be a all time truth telling, non stealing, completely love filled virgin... But I'm not even though Christianity tells me so.
 

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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I didn't say it wasn't full of hatred.. I said that I took the good because only the good gave me reason to live. Yeah that's called cherry picking and it goes against Christianity but I do it anyways because I am free and I chose to do that. If we really were forced to believe in god then I would be a all time truth telling, non stealing, completely love filled virgin... But I'm not even though Christianity tells me so.
how come you rode your bike to a church and not a mosque ? was it conveinience or was it pre drilleed into your fragile mind by your peers ?
how come you didnt go through the 1000s of religions before deciding that the christian church had the answer to what it was you were looking for ?
this is the question id be asking myself if i was you , what if there was a place of worship for the god thor nearer to your house , would you of gone there ?
 

Hepheastus420

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What exactly is your point? That Christianity is more practiced where I live? That has nothing to do with my beliefs.
 

ThE sAtIvA hIgH

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It has everything to do with what you believe my american friend .
If you were born on a different piece of land on this planet , you would hold completely different beliefs .
COZ JUST LIKE YOU SAID , IF THERE WAS A MOSQUE NEARER TO YOUR HOUSE YOU WUOULD OF PEDDLED YOUR LITTLE PUSH BIKE TO A MOSQUE AND PROBALLY WOULD OF GOT BUMMED BY A MUZZER OR A BOMB STRAPPED TO YOU .........................................JOKE , BUT YOU SEE WHAT IM SAYING ?
 

Hepheastus420

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First, was it necessary to call my life short?

Second, I'm not trying to be a douche.. I just honestly don see your point. Please explain it to me.
 
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