The "I don't starve my plants before harvest" thread
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Harrekin
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Would you explain to me what exactly a "good grower" is? I think all these "celebrity growers" are all just the same, people who can provide an excellent environment, lots of light and water/nutrients at just the right times. What exactly makes these guys supposedly so different? Do they do some voodoo dance around the plants or know some magic words?
Jorge is a smart guy for actually going to the hassle of making a growing "anthology" book, but the worship of him as some supreme grower is laughable, he's just some guy!
"Some guy" who wrote a book on the matter trumps "some guy" on the RIU forums. At least he's not anonymous. Just sayin'.
VanishingToaster
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see, another person who hasn't read the thread thinking he knows it all. go read the thread from the beginning, a large chunk of discussion was pulling up scientific studies. its not just a bunch of fishwives gabbin like ur portraying us.
Ease up, we're all anonymous here aren't we? I'm not portraying anybody as anything. Agree with him or not (reminder that I do not pre-harvest flush), Jorge Cervantes is more legit then anyone involved in this discussion. It seems ludicrous to me to attack his credibility when his credentials are far greater than anyone participating in this discussion. We're just people on the internet posting under cute (and sometimes stupid) names.
Also, posting a scientific study doesn't automatically make you some expert on plants, it just makes you adept at research. Same with writing a book, actually (this means you, Jorge Cervantes). Google makes research very easy these days.
While I appreciate all of the science referenced in this discussion, I guess the fact that folks were able to copy/paste it here doesn't impress me as much as it impresses you.
shrigpiece
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I have done both and noticed no pro or con on either. Its a certainty that an overfed plant will crackle a bit but surely proper feeding would solve that problem. I think its more of what makes the grower feel confident about the final product definetly being quality. Theres been some great points on both sides of the fench by the way peeps.
PEACE OUT
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VanishingToaster
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no, finding relevent materials with google impresses me, y'know hard concrete proof that professional scientists have monitored the control experiments properly, people who are practised in not letting variable factors enter experiments. finding the stuff they've done regarding general farming techniques and pulling out the right study relevant to the weed topic is what i was meaning.
so what about all the other growers with books? all i was pointing out is that just because some dude writes it in a book, doesn't make it gospol, there plenty books out there, bet there some that contradict others, thats why i wont give them the credit.
but if u wanna take an email from cervantes over the studies published thats ur call. he wont sway my opinion because he has a book
so what about all the other growers with books? all i was pointing out is that just because some dude writes it in a book, doesn't make it gospol, there plenty books out there, bet there some that contradict others, thats why i wont give them the credit.
but if u wanna take an email from cervantes over the studies published thats ur call. he wont sway my opinion because he has a book
I just said it above, but I guess I'll say it again:
Being adept at research doesn't impress me. That includes Jorge Cervantes. From what I understand, his books are essentially the paper form of copy/paste. I'll not be swayed to start flushing by him.
Nothing beats real world experience. I tried flushing both ways, I found no difference. I flushed my first few grows because that's what everyone at the time seemed to believe, then I stopped doing it and it didn't make a difference.
Until someone compels me otherwise, I'll never pre-harvest flush again. Now 42 pages later, it's not looking like my mind will be changing anytime soon.
why does the compassion club tell people to not feed there plants the last 2 weeks. I guess they read that myth online and have never grown there own weed???? I dont think so. The unflushed bud was to harsh, so now they flush there weed and no one complans.... Next time i go to the compassion club I will tell the guy there he dont know how to grow weed, because he flushes to take away the chemical taste.. LMFAO
VanishingToaster
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the studies only impressed me because i was able to draw a conclusion from them, that flushing is advisable if you've really over-fed. they showed that plants would use all parts of them to store excess.
however if ur even vaguely competant flushing isn't worthwhile. whereas cervantes email sadly had no value, if his books had real value then this thread wouldn't even exist.
however if ur even vaguely competant flushing isn't worthwhile. whereas cervantes email sadly had no value, if his books had real value then this thread wouldn't even exist.
VanishingToaster
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IF he had chemmed up bud then he really wants to watch how hot his soil is and maybe half the nutes he's using. if it was just a harshness, then thats all down to the cure. another twat pops up forgetting his clue
all you NON flushers say "it must of been cured wrong" i find it funny that if you take a Flushed bud un cured and you dont get the harshness/popping/black ash/ flamethower to thorat. why does Flush buds never do that, and only unflush ones do????? I guess if you flush it dont matter how you cure it, because it dont ever pop and cracle like unflush stuff.
shrigpiece
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Can't say iv ever had weed that bad.
Harrekin
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Well I guess you wouldn't know "Mr One harvest CFL" (and I'll use the next term loosely) grower. How about when you've grown 100's of plants (with real lights) and have actually tried flushing and not flushing for yourself and tried different drying/curing techniques then come back and participate...until then all you have is "some guy said".
Thanks.
i have what "some guy said" vs what you said....... I think i will stick with the info I got from some one that has Grown cannabis plants before, unlike your self that hasn't grown anything
VanishingToaster
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awwwww ur not very bright are you? u seen his avatar there? maybe check out his posts too, i seen an ak48 and a seperate snow white grow without even scrolling down!
No, it would just make you more credible than you are now.
k0ijn
Scientia Cannabis
I really enjoy seeing a post like this.
This is exactly why I posted the study, to get the information out there.
And to see you take in the information and actively use it to argue in favour of science is just brilliant!
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