Gastanker's 600+w Organic UV Grow
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mistyriffs
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the affects of the smoke was quite different? because of the new butane, or different bud strain?
Gastanker
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Next two plants will go into the tent in their own 5 or 7g smart pots. Once the plants that are currently flowering are cut I'll chop up the soil a bit, re-amend, and then start loading it up with new plants. Old decaying roots in the soil don't have any negative effects that I can think of but do help with the soil in several ways so I plan on leaving them be.
The Vector run waxed up almost immediately whereas the Power run needed to sit overnight on the heat pad before waxing up. The Vector product looks slightly lighter and is a bit chalkier than the Power product. I would compare the Vector stuff to dry fudge consistency wise whereas the Power bho looks more like crystallized honey. Both smoke very similarly with the same high.
Gastanker
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Lime buffers pH but I would try and identify why you are having the low pH runoff. What is the pH of your water/nute solution? Do you have a highly acidic soil? How low is the run-off?
Soil acidity really is more important than run-off pH so if your run off isn't too low and your not seeing deficiencies and your soil pH is fine then I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Psychild
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Gonna go take pics for you now √ Don't go anywhere! Lol
Gastanker
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Ah, the dreaded claw. That can be genetic, due to over watering, or like you say due to pH. Over wating and soil pH problems go hand in hand so it could be a mixture of the two. Lime should help a bit but like i said before I would check all other variables - soil pH, water/nute solution pH, how often you water...
Psychild
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I water every-other day.......Positive it isn't over watering because I wait till they droop most of the time. (Helps defoliate some without having to tear them bitches off)
I'm using Tap Water, whenever I don't use Nutes my pH is about 6.5-6.8 going in, and somewhere around 6.8 as r/o.....but when I add Nutes, now here's the tricky thing....last time I fed a plant I just thought I'd test it, and pH'd my water before adding food. (I took a pH test before watering and with food it was around 8, coming out it was 6.8-7) I just hate not knowing how far below 6.8 I am since I'm using drops ><
You know those $5 probe things you can get at lowes or home depot for soil acidity? I have one, but always thought they were a joke, and never really used it.
Gastanker
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Yeah those meters are a joke. To test soil pH mix a small amount of soil with a small amount of water and shake it really good. Then let it settle and test the waters pH.
What is the pH of your run off?
Psychild
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Gastanker
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Depends on what you are using to measure pH. If a meter then you can test it right away, if drops you need to let all the soil settle out before you'll be able to read the color. Sometimes with drops I add the drops, soil, and water and then shake like crazy and then let it settle for 30+min before reading the color. Run-off of 6.8-7 is near perfect. Perfect for soil would be 6.5-6.8 so you are super close.
Psychild
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Which is why I don't understand why my plants look like shit :/ Could I have vegged them too long for these pots?Depends on what you are using to measure pH. If a meter then you can test it right away, if drops you need to let all the soil settle out before you'll be able to read the color. Sometimes with drops I add the drops, soil, and water and then shake like crazy and then let it settle for 30+min before reading the color. Run-off of 6.8-7 is near perfect. Perfect for soil would be 6.5-6.8 so you are super close.
Gastanker
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If it's not over watering I would guess that it is just genetic - which is somewhat backed up by most/all leaves being clawed and not just some. Did they start to claw up at one particular point or were they always like that from a couple weeks in? Are you running your nutes hot?
Psychild
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Running my nutes hot? Most didn't start clawing until about day 25-30 of flower. Then the veg plants started doing it slowly after, which is why I think it's a pH problem. I've experienced Root Bound before with party cups, but this is slightly different. I feel like they're showing a P & K def, more than likely from a low pH. I'll let you know how a couple look when lights one √
Btw, those girls look beautiful!!!!
Btw, those girls look beautiful!!!!
Gastanker
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Hot = really high levels. I still think it might be over watering. Every other day is fairly frequent - more typical is every 3-7days. Your pH has to be really really off to effect soil, like <5 or >8
Psychild
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My pots are only .75 gal...You know I tried giving my plants the recommended strength, and saw no effects...plants just kept getting yellow. I bumped it up to 2-2.5 times stronger, and they all got pretty good looking. Then somebody told my it was pretty much a good time to quit feeding, so I did. I watered once after that, then started giving them some epsom salt cuz they were showing a slight mag def. They greened up and looked great for about 2 weeks, then I think I was just keeping my pH around 5.8 not really knowing how far I was going, and the nasties started happening.
Gastanker
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Fuck. It's getting to the point where I'm antsy as fuck and growing more and more impatient by the day. At least two more weeks... Blah. There are large recognizable buds coated in trichomes, who sooo much longer? Two weeks is forever and everyday after than another eternity.
Must smoke more hash oil...
Must smoke more hash oil...
i know what u mean but i just read your journals great grows man i love the organics your using I'm changing to that too what do you think of my soil mix
i also use aact
25lb of black kow compost
24qt of perlite
7lb of worm castings
.6lb of blood meal
.6lb of bonemeal
1 cup of powdered egg shells
4tbsp of epsom slat
1/2cup of fish/seaweed fertilizer
1 cup of rice baby cereal
and i have a bacteria and myco powder i put in the soil
any recommendations would be great or a grow book would be awesome i saw ur feeding schedule was a little confused on it.
i also use aact
25lb of black kow compost
24qt of perlite
7lb of worm castings
.6lb of blood meal
.6lb of bonemeal
1 cup of powdered egg shells
4tbsp of epsom slat
1/2cup of fish/seaweed fertilizer
1 cup of rice baby cereal
and i have a bacteria and myco powder i put in the soil
any recommendations would be great or a grow book would be awesome i saw ur feeding schedule was a little confused on it.