DJ Short Blueberry Grow by Snafu (all organic)
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Snafu1236
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I transplanted the other day into 7gal smart pots. Now under a 250 W HPS.
These will be their finishing containers. Normally I would have sexed the clones before placing into finishers, but for unforeseen positive circumstances this is a better route for me right now.
These will be their finishing containers. Normally I would have sexed the clones before placing into finishers, but for unforeseen positive circumstances this is a better route for me right now.
slider11111
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Looks great!!!
Snafu1236
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LST'ed the five Blueberry plants this morning. Blueberry is an extremely stout, dense indica...I was originally going to just SCRoG them without any preliminary LST but there is virtually no light penetration right now...so alas, I've opened them up.
Full update and pics coming tomorrow.
Full update and pics coming tomorrow.
Snafu1236
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Grow Journal
12/04/11
DJ Short Blueberry
12/04/11 Summary
***This grow is updated every Sunday***
A few days ago I transplanted the plants into 7 gallon Smart Pots. I put in about 40% concentrated organic soil mix in the bottom. After that layer is completed, I mix about 50% concentrate and 50% Roots Organic and create a 1-1 1/2" layer on top of the bottom concentrated layer. This "eases" the roots into the hotter bottom layer.
I then created a layer of Xtreme Gardening Mykos, the same size of the root ball. I placed the root ball on top of this Mykos layer. I also inoculated the root ball with a small amount of Great White Mychorrizae.
I then watered with Hygrozyme and Roots Excelurator.
Density of the Blueberry creates almost zero light penetration to undergrowth; it's really something. Even with early topping the density is extreme.
Because of this, I decided to LST with simple pipe cleaners for a better preparation for the screen, as well as enhanced pace of undergrowth. I wish to maximize undergrowth because of the early topping procedure I applied.
On a side note, the clones died. I didn't really expect them to make it anyways. I really wanted to see if the Azos could actually clone such an early stage plant. IME, I have had extreme difficulty in cloning a very young plant from seed.
I plan on letting the plants grow under the light for a while now, with minimal LST'ing by me and nothing more. They are vigorously growing in their vegetative stage now, and flowering should begin in just a bit more time.
My main focus will be maximizing root growth with rotating inoculations of molasses, Roots Excelurator, Rhizotonic, Mychorrizae(if warranted), and AACT's(Actively Aerated Compost Teas). I will also apply an enzyme product of my choosing until the 2nd week of flowering. Currently on hand I have fulvic acid, humic acid, hygrozyme, and Multizen.
I will not apply any nutrients at this time, as they are all in the soil now and will carry the plants until the end. If they run out of gas a little early (which I don't think will happen), I can always top dress with more soil concentrate.
Besides plain water, the only thing I may add differently is a little carbonated mineral water during the beginning/middle stages of flowering.
12/04/11
DJ Short Blueberry
12/04/11 Summary
***This grow is updated every Sunday***
- 5 DJ Short Blueberry Plants sprouted from seed on 10/30/11; Today is Day 35 from seed.
- All Organic
A few days ago I transplanted the plants into 7 gallon Smart Pots. I put in about 40% concentrated organic soil mix in the bottom. After that layer is completed, I mix about 50% concentrate and 50% Roots Organic and create a 1-1 1/2" layer on top of the bottom concentrated layer. This "eases" the roots into the hotter bottom layer.
I then created a layer of Xtreme Gardening Mykos, the same size of the root ball. I placed the root ball on top of this Mykos layer. I also inoculated the root ball with a small amount of Great White Mychorrizae.
I then watered with Hygrozyme and Roots Excelurator.
Density of the Blueberry creates almost zero light penetration to undergrowth; it's really something. Even with early topping the density is extreme.
Because of this, I decided to LST with simple pipe cleaners for a better preparation for the screen, as well as enhanced pace of undergrowth. I wish to maximize undergrowth because of the early topping procedure I applied.
On a side note, the clones died. I didn't really expect them to make it anyways. I really wanted to see if the Azos could actually clone such an early stage plant. IME, I have had extreme difficulty in cloning a very young plant from seed.
I plan on letting the plants grow under the light for a while now, with minimal LST'ing by me and nothing more. They are vigorously growing in their vegetative stage now, and flowering should begin in just a bit more time.
My main focus will be maximizing root growth with rotating inoculations of molasses, Roots Excelurator, Rhizotonic, Mychorrizae(if warranted), and AACT's(Actively Aerated Compost Teas). I will also apply an enzyme product of my choosing until the 2nd week of flowering. Currently on hand I have fulvic acid, humic acid, hygrozyme, and Multizen.
I will not apply any nutrients at this time, as they are all in the soil now and will carry the plants until the end. If they run out of gas a little early (which I don't think will happen), I can always top dress with more soil concentrate.
Besides plain water, the only thing I may add differently is a little carbonated mineral water during the beginning/middle stages of flowering.
Snafu1236
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Roots Organic Soil.
Temps are 77-79.
Aside from Blueberry #5, I tend to disagree with you here on their pace of growth; They are on day 35 from breaking soil from seed. They were transplanted from Jiffy pots to 1 gallon Smart Pots. They were then topped after the second node. They were then transplanted into 7 gallon Smart Pots. Then they were LST'ed(the pictures above show branches tied down with pipe cleaners).
Because of all the processes stated above, I think they are coming along fine. If I just let them grow, obviously they would be much bigger. However, I saw approximately 1" of growth per day, every single day since last Sunday. That is why I LST'ed them yesterday morning...they began to shoot out so fast none of the undergrowth was getting much light.
Do you still think they are slow? I am interested in hearing more of your experiences with Blueberry, and how you came to your conclusion on why you think they are small?
Thanks for stopping by, and looking forward to hearing from you again!
Temps are 77-79.
Aside from Blueberry #5, I tend to disagree with you here on their pace of growth; They are on day 35 from breaking soil from seed. They were transplanted from Jiffy pots to 1 gallon Smart Pots. They were then topped after the second node. They were then transplanted into 7 gallon Smart Pots. Then they were LST'ed(the pictures above show branches tied down with pipe cleaners).
Because of all the processes stated above, I think they are coming along fine. If I just let them grow, obviously they would be much bigger. However, I saw approximately 1" of growth per day, every single day since last Sunday. That is why I LST'ed them yesterday morning...they began to shoot out so fast none of the undergrowth was getting much light.
Do you still think they are slow? I am interested in hearing more of your experiences with Blueberry, and how you came to your conclusion on why you think they are small?
Thanks for stopping by, and looking forward to hearing from you again!
they seem small i think u r doin a good job yo and i know u have stressed them look at ur leaf stems and ur side branch stems the diss color or purple is a nute deff and the leafs r drooping down so there for i know growth has been slowed great choice in strain and genetics dj short is the shit and the BB is o so mouth watering WHEN CURED PROPERLY!
no disrespect just a observation it took me 3 yrs to learn how to grow a perfect plant that u can consider DANK
no disrespect just a observation it took me 3 yrs to learn how to grow a perfect plant that u can consider DANK
Snafu1236
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Interesting. I respect your opinion. I have to say that almost always DJ Short's Blueberry gear shows purpling of the stems and petioles. More specifically, the stems sometimes exhibit purple pin stripes. In this specific grow, the purpling of the stems and petioles have been apparent since seed. There could be an ongoing lockout of phosphorous or even magnesium, although these both have been amended into the base soils.
Sometimes overwatering or underwatering can lead to purpling as well. They have been watered more than being dry....so I will let them dry out a little bit more this week to see if this may be a factor. Though I do not believe it will, it should be an interesting factor to delineate.
I believe genetics is the key determinant and influence of the purpling displayed here.
Crash666
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I agree with you Snafu. I grew single seed out of my pack which ended up being male. It also had purple stems. I remember seeing the purple pinstripes you speak of as well. I thought it was a deficiency at first but after some research I decided it was strain related. It was a great looking plant, a real shame to have to kill him. Great job with the thread too, always interesting and some nice pics!
Snafu1236
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Thanks! A lot of times on RIU people complain that they want more bud shots, etc. IME with RIU, I have found too many half-filled out journals, grow logs, etc...be it in the beginning or right around flower.
My intention with this thread, aside from the obvious goal of chronicling a half pack of DJ Short seeds, is to show a full grow from seed to bud, detailing everything I can along the way. Too many times do I see a rundown of a grow, and then a nice bud picture and that's it..with all the nuances of the grow never covered.
Also, I have only grown Blueberry a few times and wanted to have one of my outings logged with Blueberry here on RIU.
I think that if more users of RIU completed their grow journals as such, RIU would be a much more informative and fact-based site based on everyone's experiences.
Snafu1236
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Now that we have commenced the vegetative growing stage, it is important to begin increasing the numbers and activating the soil microbes. In order to do this, one good tool to use is Actively Aerated Compost Teas.
Compost tea puts the microbiology back into soil. Since you cannot immediately introduce all microbiology into the rhizosphere or phyllosphere with just compost or mulches, AACTs are needed via a root drench or foliar spray.
Actively aerated compost teas are usually easy to apply--- to both soil and leaf surfaces---and are put right where they are needed. They are a fast, inexpensive, and excellent way to manage soil food web microbiology in your containers.
Simply get an air stone, tubing, air pump and 5 gallon bucket to make your brewer.
An AACT just mixed using the recipe below. This mixture will be applied both foliarly and via root drench onto my Blueberry plants when it is ready, in 24-48 hours.
For vegetative teas, I use:
4 Gallons of Sat-Out, Chlorine Free (Must be chlorine free or it will kill the microbes)
5 TBSP Molasses
5 TBSP Pressed Kelp
10 TBSP of Peruvian Seabird Guano
2 TBSP Worm Castings
1 TSP Azomite
1 TBSP Concentrated Organic Soil Mix
1 TBSP Alaskan Humus
Mix all together and aerate for 24-48 hours, until you see a nice froth forming at the top after at least 24 hours. Then water into your vegetative plants normally.
If your plants could kiss you, they would.
Compost tea puts the microbiology back into soil. Since you cannot immediately introduce all microbiology into the rhizosphere or phyllosphere with just compost or mulches, AACTs are needed via a root drench or foliar spray.
Actively aerated compost teas are usually easy to apply--- to both soil and leaf surfaces---and are put right where they are needed. They are a fast, inexpensive, and excellent way to manage soil food web microbiology in your containers.
Simply get an air stone, tubing, air pump and 5 gallon bucket to make your brewer.
An AACT just mixed using the recipe below. This mixture will be applied both foliarly and via root drench onto my Blueberry plants when it is ready, in 24-48 hours.
For vegetative teas, I use:
4 Gallons of Sat-Out, Chlorine Free (Must be chlorine free or it will kill the microbes)
5 TBSP Molasses
5 TBSP Pressed Kelp
10 TBSP of Peruvian Seabird Guano
2 TBSP Worm Castings
1 TSP Azomite
1 TBSP Concentrated Organic Soil Mix
1 TBSP Alaskan Humus
Mix all together and aerate for 24-48 hours, until you see a nice froth forming at the top after at least 24 hours. Then water into your vegetative plants normally.
If your plants could kiss you, they would.
Snafu1236
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I dont ph my teas. I just dump it on when it looks ready. Matter of fact, I just dumped the above tea on the plants.
If you want to adjust the pH, I would throw some pH down from Earth Juice in there. The way I am growing, the soil microbes will take care of the pH level in the rhizosphere, regardless of adjusting pH or not.
If you want to adjust the pH, I would throw some pH down from Earth Juice in there. The way I am growing, the soil microbes will take care of the pH level in the rhizosphere, regardless of adjusting pH or not.
Snafu1236
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Thanks! Good to have you.
They're all vegg'ing now, plan on vegging them for a little while longer.
This journal is officially updated every Sunday.
Snafu1236
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I figured I'd let you guys know that I have sprouted the rest of the 10 pack of DJ Short's Blueberry.
I originally only popped 5, and documented them here.
The last 4/5 seeds have sprouted, and are all labeled 6, 7, 8 and 9.
The last seed has failed to sprout so far, and it has been resting in a germination chamber since last Thursday.
My plan is to do the exact same thing I did with the original 5. I decided to pop these in the chance that I wind up with 5 males.
And if all my Blueberries fail(which won't happen, just sayin'), I have just popped 10 Mr Nice Black Widows and 5 TGA Vortex.
In case you haven't guessed, I am a seed popping pheno-hunter.
I originally only popped 5, and documented them here.
The last 4/5 seeds have sprouted, and are all labeled 6, 7, 8 and 9.
The last seed has failed to sprout so far, and it has been resting in a germination chamber since last Thursday.
My plan is to do the exact same thing I did with the original 5. I decided to pop these in the chance that I wind up with 5 males.
And if all my Blueberries fail(which won't happen, just sayin'), I have just popped 10 Mr Nice Black Widows and 5 TGA Vortex.
In case you haven't guessed, I am a seed popping pheno-hunter.
johny1212
Active Member
I'm in! Looking great snafu! Have you ever tried just planting the 1gal smartpot right into the 7 gal? I ask because I saw that recently on another grow and thought it was a great way to transplant. Really looking forward to this one. I have some bb but haven't got it in the cycle yet. Good luck!
Snafu1236
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Med, I think we were separated at birth...we always seem to either be ordering what one has already going, or growing what we just ordered! LOL! I love it.
To be honest, I wasn't planning on doing a full on grow log like I did with Blueberry. However, I am willing to cover a few basics in a grow log for you...because as it stands, RIU is hurting for a proper Mr Nice Black Widow grow journal.
So, if you want, let me know. I will probably just update every now and then and give a quick rundown of the grow, as Blueberry is eating up most of my time on RIU for now.