Occupy Christmas

[Nusky]

I don't even no what it is...lol...I haven't paid attention to any of it...I'll catch up in one quick read though...or just wait for the movie

People made a website, people spammed it everywhere, people occupied the street in protest with no clear message at all, police beat people, people took it and eventually the police stopped. Then other people decided to copy them, the original people move in and take their thunder and donations, nobody really cares and nothing changes, ever. The end.

 

[rowlman]

People made a website, people spammed it everywhere, people occupied the street in protest with no clear message at all, police beat people, people took it and eventually the police stopped. Then other people decided to copy them, the original people move in and take their thunder and donations, nobody really cares and nothing changes, ever. The end.

So kinda like everyday in my fair city of Detroit...I get it. Thanks...lol
Thats a great summary though, I get it now...just don't ruin the movie for me.

 

[neosapien]

Yes, go get a job. Walmart is hiring at 8.15/hr. That's enough money to raise a family on.

 

[Finshaggy]

People made a website, people spammed it everywhere, people occupied the street in protest with no clear message at all, police beat people, people took it and eventually the police stopped. Then other people decided to copy them, the original people move in and take their thunder and donations, nobody really cares and nothing changes, ever. The end.

Except you forgot one thing...

The police never stopped the brutality, the international day of action was Nov 17th.
They maced those kids on the sidewalk like last week...

Yes, go get a job. Walmart is hiring at 8.15/hr. That's enough money to raise a family on.

They won't hire a Tx misdemeanor...

 

[rowlman]

Yes, go get a job. Walmart is hiring at 8.15/hr. That's enough money to raise a family on.

Thats fuckin scary...before my accident, I was up to $29-30 an hour laying brick...and we were still getting raises every 6 months. I try to live on now a month, what I used to make a week.It's crazy...and the Union fucked me hard too. useless fucks.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

Not all of them CAN find jobs.
I damn sure can't...
All because of a misdemeanor in Tx. Bullshit
But I'm not just complaining over and over about not having a job. I'm thinking of ways to solve it (Ex:Glassblowing, breeding)

But I still feel as if I am part of the 99% and will continue to further occupy...
And Occupy isn't just going to "Go Away"
Have you heard of Occupy in the South American countries? It's there.
Occupy Canada, they can handle some snow.
Occupy Germany.
Occupy Egypt (That shit isn't going to die down any time soon)
What makes ANYONE think the snow will hinder the Occupy movement?

life's all about choices man, you made poor life choices at 14 now you cant get a job. why should the 1% get taxed more to pay for your mistakes. ( not judging you here man ). everyone makes mistakes. it's commendable your trying to get a job.

and okay so occupy the bahamas will probably get through the cold spell. point taken lol.

today in the uk the public sector are having the biggest strike in our countries history over cuts to the health system and pensions. them walking out for a day is as pointless as the occupy movement. what change are you effecting. the fat cats couldn't give a shit your out in the cold. and wont until a law says they have to. laws are made and changed in parliament by the 1 % and the merry go round begins again. the protest is futile.

but hey if it makes you feel better. go ahead.

 

[neosapien]

Thats fuckin scary...before my accident, I was up to $29-30 an hour laying brick...and we were still getting raises every 6 months. I try to live on now a month, what I used to make a week.It's crazy...and the Union fucked me hard too. useless fucks.

Yeah life's expensive huh bro!!?? I get laid off every November and collect unemployment til March rolls around. Money is tight these times of the year. Lucky I can pick up side jobs. Yeah my view on unions nowadays is that their just another political body that gets corrupted. Plain and simple.

 

[ganjames]

They won't hire a Tx misdemeanor...

you made poor life choices at 14 now you cant get a job.

You only had a misdemeanor charge at 14 and they won't hire you? Are you telling people this on job applications?

I had several violent felonies around that age and I can get a job anywhere, but I sure as hell don't tell them this on job applications.
Can they even see juvenile convictions on their basic criminal record searches?

 

[Finshaggy]

life's all about choices man, you made poor life choices at 14 now you cant get a job. why should the 1% get taxed more to pay for your mistakes. ( not judging you here man ). everyone makes mistakes. it's commendable your trying to get a job.

and okay so occupy the bahamas will probably get through the cold spell. point taken lol.

today in the uk the public sector are having the biggest strike in our countries history over cuts to the health system and pensions. them walking out for a day is as pointless as the occupy movement. what change are you effecting. the fat cats couldn't give a shit your out in the cold. and wont until a law says they have to. laws are made and changed in parliament by the 1 % and the merry go round begins again. the protest is futile.

but hey if it makes you feel better. go ahead.

I never said to tax them...
Take that shit away from them. Keep what they have maybe, but never again do they get paid Billions, while paying employees minimum wage...

And you sat here and DESCRIBED the problem...
Do you NOT REALIZE that occupy sees that SAME SHIT. And that is WHY they are there. We ARE GOING TO, fix things. We won't be "Asking" the leaders of the world, or the "1%" to change ANYTHING...

WE WILL CHANGE IT

You seem to miss the whole point of the movement...WE can do this ourselves, WITHOUT the 1% economically having us enslaved

 

[Finshaggy]

You only had a misdemeanor charge at 14 and they won't hire you? Are you telling people this on job applications?

I had several violent felonies around that age and I can get a job anywhere, but I sure as hell don't tell them this on job applications.
Can they even see juvenile convictions on their basic criminal record searches?

No you misunderstood.
I have been getting misdemeanors SINCE I was 14.

I have an active misdemeanor warrant right now...

They won't hire me...



And
@ DON GIN DIPSHIT
The decisions weren't made by me OR when I was 14. They raided my house without a warrant and found 1 GRAM, but because it's Tx, they got away with it because I could only afford a court appointed lawyer...

So it wasn't MY decisions...



I'm suffering from the decisions made by my old counties Police Department.

 

[Finshaggy]

Read this
Link:
https://www.rollitup.org/legal-edge/475006-police-break.html

 

[PeyoteReligion]

No you misunderstood.
I have been getting misdemeanors SINCE I was 14.

I have an active misdemeanor warrant right now...

They won't hire me...



And
@ DON GIN DIPSHIT
The decisions weren't made by me OR when I was 14. They raided my house without a warrant and found 1 GRAM, but because it's Tx, they got away with it because I could only afford a court appointed lawyer...

So it wasn't MY decisions...



I'm suffering from the decisions made by my old counties Police Department.

No its you making poor choices and cant get a job now. Don't blame anyone but yourself. Excuses are the pillars of fools.

 

[Finshaggy]

No its you making poor choices and cant get a job now. Don't blame anyone but yourself. Excuses are the pillars of fools.

It's really not. I got a job in Cali when they didn't have the warrant out, then couldn't get a new job when they finally issued the real warrant. Instead of it just being a "Probation Violation" warrant.

But they had no warrant to arrest me and put me on probation, or give me any warrants in the first place...

So at the beginning of this cycle is... THEIR decisions, made illegally, against me.


But I still try my best to get a job, and am working towards not having to be employed by anyone, and just making my own money with my own skills.
Because the system in place won't hire me, because I'm a "Doper"...Literally a MJ charge for 1 GRAM, and I have a medical license in the state I now live in...
But they just see the warrant when I apply...

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

No you misunderstood.
I have been getting misdemeanors SINCE I was 14.
I have an active misdemeanor warrant right now...
They won't hire me...

And
@ DON GIN DIPSHIT
The decisions weren't made by me OR when I was 14. They raided my house without a warrant and found 1 GRAM, but because it's Tx, they got away with it because I could only afford a court appointed lawyer...
So it wasn't MY decisions...
I'm suffering from the decisions made by my old counties Police Department.

ok i understood perfectly you've been making bad decisions SINCE you were 14. they wont hire you now cos you have an outstanding warrant. duuuh no shit sherlock go and fucking handle that shit. then you might actually get a job!?!?

1 gram a fuckin thousand grams still your problem. court appointed lawyers may not be sidney poitier but surely if they had no warrant you could have defended yourself out of that one.

'because its TX' my arse. take responsibility for your actions for gods sake it'll get you further than camping out on wall street or where ever.

 

[Finshaggy]

ok i understood perfectly you've been making bad decisions SINCE you were 14. they wont hire you now cos you have an outstanding warrant. duuuh no shit sherlock go and fucking handle that shit. then you might actually get a job!?!?

1 gram a fuckin thousand grams still your problem. court appointed lawyers may not be sidney poitier but surely if they had no warrant you could have defended yourself out of that one.

'because its TX' my arse. take responsibility for your actions for gods sake it'll get you further than camping out on wall street or where ever.

NOOO,

You don't understand at all.
I've been BEING FUCKED WITH since I was 14....Which is 100% unrelated to this conversation...

Now part 2...
THEY ARRESTED ME WHEN I WAS 18....And did it WITH NO WARRANT FOR MY ARREST OR TO COME IN MY HOUSE.




How do you get yourself out of having a gram???


Please decide how you would present your case. And get away with it.
Like 12 cops and the NARCOTICS SERGEANT of the county, broke in your house.
Found 1 GRAM of weed.
Don Gin and Ton VS The State
GO


Lol, knowing where the blame should be, and keeping it there, has gotten me to two states, and soon a new country.

If I would have blamed myself for their decisions, I would be in jail. AND jobless...

I'd say I made it a little further with my decisions than yours....


Shows what you know about "Making it" anywhere


You have fun going to jail for a gram of weed, and I'ma Occupy some Christmas

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

illegal search and seizure. plain and simple. much like yourself.

and yeah i guess i do know plenty about 'making it' compared to yourself seeing as i've never been arrested or gone to jail. have a job... i could go on

news flash everyone gets fucked with at some point it's how you deal with it that matters. by not dealing with it you've put yourself in your situation. and yeah like you say they've persecuted you blah blah blah. end of the day you have to play the game by their rules.

 

[Finshaggy]

illegal search and seizure. plain and simple. much like yourself.

and yeah i guess i do know plenty about 'making it' compared to yourself seeing as i've never been arrested or gone to jail. have a job... i could go on

news flash everyone gets fucked with at some point it's how you deal with it that matters. by not dealing with it you've put yourself in your situation. and yeah like you say they've persecuted you blah blah blah. end of the day you have to play the game by their rules.

The court appointed lawyer wasn't trying to hear any of that. He didn't want to go to trial and shit. I could say "Illegal search and seizure" or anything...

Lol, if you have a job then you aren't going anywhere. And I'm not in jail either

By not dealing with it? I've totally dealt with it.
They can't touch me, I pay them $1000 and it's all over. I just won't have any money to blow like that, until after I start glassblowing.


You're really confused about my situation,
It's probably your lack of information on the subject...
But it's not my fault your jumping in, before figuring out what's going on underneath first

 

[Finshaggy]

Like, honestly I'm not asking for your input. Everything you are saying, and getting said to you by me is of your own volition. You came on this thread, to... I'm not sure. Bitch? Moan? Try to find somebody that "seemed" like a mooch, and put them down for it?
(Even though that's another mistaken judgement on your part)
What are you doing?

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

The court appointed lawyer wasn't trying to hear any of that. He didn't want to go to trial and shit. I could say "Illegal search and seizure" or anything...
Lol, if you have a job then you aren't going anywhere. And I'm not in jail either
By not dealing with it? I've totally dealt with it.
They can't touch me, I pay them $1000 and it's all over. I just won't have any money to blow like that, until after I start glassblowing.
You're really confused about my situation,
It's probably your lack of information on the subject...
But it's not my fault your jumping in, before figuring out what's going on underneath first

i must be really confused about your situation, from what your saying your lawyer was a fucking idiot. by not dealing with it you've had life problems since the incident, which could be solved by paying a grand but instead you've moved state twice? the ostrich technique, smart move man.

i must be missing a whole lot about your situation??? i dont get your point i have a job so i'm not going anywhere, what does that even mean? you think i have no chance for promotion or something? i'm a director of one company a sales manager of another and i'm part of a fledgling seedbank. i do these things so that i am going somewhere. maybe your confused about my situation?

Like, honestly I'm not asking for your input. Everything you are saying, and getting said to you by me is of your own volition. You came on this thread, to... I'm not sure. Bitch? Moan? Try to find somebody that "seemed" like a mooch, and put them down for it?
(Even though that's another mistaken judgement on your part)
What are you doing?

by posting the thread in toke and talk you invited everyone to post comment on your opening statement. yes it's all of my own volition. i posted my views as did you. i'm not trying to put you down cos your in a situation, if you check back i actually think it's commendable your trying to change that situation. i just think the occupy movement is the wrong way to do it.

that's what i'm saying/doing.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

maybe we should just agree to differ.