Thought this was vertical..2000 watt

cowell

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I am just starting out a new set up.
Started flowering about a week ago. I have various sized plants in the room as I am trying to very quickly figure out proper spacing for the set up so I can start timing my clones. I have always done perpetual set up.. but I am not going to do that anymore. One room straight to harvest.. if I want to go perpetual, it'll be another 3 x 2000 watt set up just like this one running opposite 12/12's (4000 watts at a time.)
My set up is basically as shown. Will hold 84 plants. All in 3 gallon nursery pots. 2000 watts.

Right now I have everything from some 3 month olds to freshly rooted clones - 0 veg time.

I am working out my own grow system. It's a shallow water immersion technique I've been messing with over the past few years that seems to be working fairly well for me, so I'm going to show this grow as current (like maybe with updates? who knows :)
and work out issues in the new space as they crop up..

I'll try and update as I go. This is a very basic set up - designed to be very low maintenance, low cost set up, and very easily dismantled within 10 minutes. (34 screws in total)

Will take any questions, criticisms, or words of advice..
Thanks..
 
Joedank

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Looks great! I might put a bamboo or stake in each pot to train the plant on and hold phat colas ! Also put in a plastic layer between the pots an wood or paint it as it will mold unsealed.
Also biggest plants on the bottom is how I roll...
Great start seems like your gonna pull a phat yeild off that rig hoss!
Best of luck and check out the thread heaths flooded tubes herein riu
 
cowell

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noptical said:
subbed for sure.
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Welcome aboard - hopefully it turns out to be something worth watching :)

Joedank said:
Looks great! I might put a bamboo or stake in each pot to train the plant on and hold phat colas ! Also put in a plastic layer between the pots an wood or paint it as it will mold unsealed.
Also biggest plants on the bottom is how I roll...
Great start seems like your gonna pull a phat yeild off that rig hoss!
Best of luck and check out the thread heaths flooded tubes herein riu
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Thanks Joe, I was contimplating the bamboo (I have used them in previous grows as well, and actually have about 200 x 3 foot peices in a bucket in the cornor in case I need them, but I was also toying with the idea of tying supprts to the rack above it.. I have also tied things up to the roof in past grows, but then it limits mobility of the plants.. this may solve that issue as I won't be moving them anyway.

The wood is actually rubberized with blue max. It's a paint on waterproof membrane for foundations.. but it's non toxic, and environmentally sound.(you can use it to coat the inside of water coolers - so if it's safe for me to drink out of.. I figure it's safe for the plants.) I also have lined the flower boxes with 6 mil poly as well (as a safe guard).. if you look at the 2 rows at the back of the room that you can see blue... that's the rubber membrane. I can basically manufacture anything custom I want and rubberize it to be water tight without too much worry.

I was looking at putting the bigger plants all along the bottom lastnight - as they are shading a few of the smaller plants.. so point taken and I will be moving them tonight when lights kick on.

Heath's thread is what made me start looking at vertical growing about a year ago..Ithink. and it's finally coming together.

WesternBotany said:
Looks good, what's the strain?
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Thanks man.. actually a few different strains, but all my own genetics on this run. I have RP kandy kush that will be going in as soon as I know the set up is dialed in fine.. but until then,
I have :
bubba kush/strawberry cough
bubba kush/violator kush
bubba kush/cali orange skunk
bubba kush
As you can imagine, I had a bubba kush do some pollinating for me on the best of the other strains I had.. it's Barney's farms bubba + violator.. Dutch Passion's Strawberry cough, and I can't remember the cali o breeder... bought them on Attitude a few years back and just kept running the strain.. It's a good mid with great yeild, so I kept it.

Like I said, in a few months I'll know how my strains are doing, and may crack a few kandy kush to add a second room. (once this harvest goes I will hopefully have enough to set up another room straight away)... they are feminized, so I likely won't be so lucky as to draw a male there.
 
cowell

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Joedank said:
Figured you were on it ! Glad I asked cuz I was unaware of the rubberized paint! Cool
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not really a "paint".. it's an industrial coating.. but you can apply it with a paintbrush, sprayer, or trowel. I found using the foam brushes from the craft store worked great for smoothing it out. It's thick like drywall mud.. so you can put a 6 mm coating at a time. A few coats is all you need and it expands and shrinks without cracking with a lifetime guarentee.

Lights go on in a few hours, I'll try and snag a few more pics tonight...and see what else you can come up with I can try out to improve things.. one pic isn't all that telling I know.
 
cowell

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PurpleCity said:
Noob here, I am really excited about this vertical thing. Heath has also inspired me to roll in this direction. I am using this as my model http://strainguide.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/heaths-vertical-racks-strainguide.html I will however use Sunshine #4 instead of hydro. I will start a page once I am settled in a bit more.

Cheers!
PC

Oh yeah, Looks Great! Subbed!
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I'm just getting my first vertical set up under way... I actually read that thread as well while researching things. I have never grown weed in soil. I read alot of people like the sunshine #4...
You should start a page too.. there's not much action here on the vertical section, more posts, more attention to the section. You never know you may end up a vertical guru and be helping me figure my shit out.
And a welcome aboard to you too.. I do hope everything turns out to be worth the sub.
 
dank smoker420

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looks nice man ive been lurking around vertical threads and i only see normal plants all on the ground with vert lights inbetween them. ive been looking for rooms like yours!! these are sick and use maximun space availible nice i like it!
 
supchaka

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I'm confused as to the watering. Are you flooding the trays they are in or what? I saw some of the small hose near the pots.
 
cowell

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dank smoker420 said:
looks nice man ive been lurking around vertical threads and i only see normal plants all on the ground with vert lights inbetween them. ive been looking for rooms like yours!! these are sick and use maximun space availible nice i like it!
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I have been looking as well - there are a few out there.. but most are a flooded tube type set up... and I've seen like one soil grow this way.


supchaka said:
I'm confused as to the watering. Are you flooding the trays they are in or what? I saw some of the small hose near the pots.
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I am in a first run in vertical - so I am going to have to change things around as I need to and don't want to be tied to an automated system until I have placement where I need it...Then I will be hardlining a top feed irrigation set up to drip into each pot.
I have been playing with shallow immersion growing since I started..(I figure I'm the only one I know doing it.. so I can call it something fancy if I want to ;) ) I basically grow in the top of totes filled with nutes... literally like 5 gallons tops. These flower boxes however hold about a gallon of water -there's an airstone in each tray.. that's what you see running into them.

It WILL become a top fed drip that will just drain back to a res for each wall. Basically - I will just be building a box under the unit that is water proofed and it will be my res... run a pump that t's off at each row.. and a drip line for each pot from that main line.. one line from each box to the res as a return. Quite a simple set up actually.. but a little costly for hoses and fittings.


 
supchaka

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By shallow immersion is this like how an autopot just waters from the bottom inch or 2? Or an ebb flow thats really shallow would be the same I guess. Either way it looks like you're going to have some fun in there with it!
 
cowell

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supchaka said:
By shallow immersion is this like how an autopot just waters from the bottom inch or 2? Or an ebb flow thats really shallow would be the same I guess. Either way it looks like you're going to have some fun in there with it!
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Not familiar with auto pots..but sounds alot like it..basically I set all my clones at the same height in their pots when I plant them and fill the water to right under where the rockwool cubes are. I likely get about 3-4 inches of aerated water. I add H202 to each rack every other day... so far no algae..I plan on covering the open areas with panda film around the base of pots to up the reflectivity as well as light block the box... again.. until I figure spacing, I'll want everything to be pretty easy to move without having to rip shit apart. Algae will happen surely.. good thing is I have the boxes lined with vapor barrior.. so I can just chuck it at the end of this grow and be all neat and clean again, then I can hard line everything for automation.

It's fun for sure.. The only real maintenance is making sure clones are timed properly.

EDIT: I checked into auto pot.. and yes.. basically the same thing, only I guess mine is a deeper tray that can hold up to 7 plants...
Kind of a bummer... I thought I was inventing something here..lol.. oh well. Still planning on going to top fed irrigation once I get things figured out.
 
cowell

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NO PICTURE UPDATE:

Sealed the room lastnight..and lowered the top light..
Things are looking good. Will try and get some shots tonight when lights kick back on.

I think I am going to pull the smaller plants this round. and put them into veg again... I am liking the look of the bushes growing on the bottom row... the mid sized plants are likely going to be perfect for my spacing at present, but I can add a 4th row, and comfortably get 5 pots in a level..

I am having issues with coming up with a 4th wall. I have seen guys do the army crawl into their room and such, but - I don't crawl unless I have to. I was thinking of putting the last tower on coasters so I could pull it out, and then push it back into place when I am closing the room up... but the last thing I want to do is be moving plants around in their 7-8th week of flower.

Any ideas guys?
 
Joedank

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Leave the flowering plants alone!! Chalk it up to learning but wasted space is ...
Just get more clones and veg longer!!
 
cowell

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Hey Joe!

I have like 70 - 80 rooted clones right now. I just have to alter the veg unit I made and I can pot them and have no worries.
I have another month and a half before I throw my next run in - I just figured I could re-veg the smaller plants and hit a bigger round of clones for next time.View attachment 1924487

I was running the trays as a flood.. but as you can see- there's alot of pot that doesnt' get soaked in this set up.. but if the walls are any higher, I have to tip the pots too much to take them in and out, was dumping hydrotron all over.... so I am going to run top drip on this as well.
 
cowell

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Late?.. no - only like 3 weeks into flower - I'll take more update pics tonight when lights go on - just takes so long to post pics for what ever reason.
Everything's still going good though - stay tuned.
 
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