Toolage 87
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I was wondering if its possible to breed different flavors into strains using say strawberries and such and grow the F1 seeds out and have them take on that flavor that you feed the parent plants when they are flowering?
Breeding flavors into strains
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mccumcumber
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You want to breed strawberries with pot? Not possible.
If that's not what you're implying, I can still say, not possible.
Certain types of bud have certain flavors, and you can breed for the desirable flavors in each strain. But trying to introduce strawberries makes no sense. Why not breed something with strawberry cough, if you want that strawberry flavor?
If that's not what you're implying, I can still say, not possible.
Certain types of bud have certain flavors, and you can breed for the desirable flavors in each strain. But trying to introduce strawberries makes no sense. Why not breed something with strawberry cough, if you want that strawberry flavor?
Toolage 87
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I would but I don't order seeds from out side the country and never will because I don't want customs to take them away since they can be anal and where I live there's no Strawberry Cough that I can find
MikeHancho85
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i JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW I AM NOW DUMBER FOR READINGTHAT QUESTION... THANKS
mr. green thumb 01
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lololol Is that why you just types that with cap locks on and hit the shift key when typing "I"? 
lol sorry no offense I just thought that was funny. Then again a lot's funny right now.
lol sorry no offense I just thought that was funny. Then again a lot's funny right now.
mr. green thumb 01
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OP- It would be a waste of strawberries. Flavors cant be taken up by the roots; only minerals.
My apology's for the immature responses. Pot heads just getting a laugh...they mean no harm. They also mean no help. lol
My apology's for the immature responses. Pot heads just getting a laugh...they mean no harm. They also mean no help. lol
Jogro
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Year old question. . .
And I will actually take it at face value and answer it.
1. NO, it is not possible to cross a strawberry plant with a cannabis plant any more than its possible to cross a duck and a canary. They're simply different species that can't interbreed, and even with current DNA engineering technology, this is not possible.
2. YES, it *IS* possible to selectively isolate specific taste characteristics from "wild type" native/tropical cannabis strains using selective breeding techniques, and either combine them or amplify them with good selection and breeding practice.
This is how famous "flavored" strains like blueberry, bubblegum, strawberry haze ("cough") etc were created.
Doing this right isn't easy; it takes knowledge of breeding, the ability to grow out many plants to do selection from, and patience, but it can be done.
Dumb luck in crossing can do it too.
HotShot7414
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I'm sure not many have tried this bud are going on what they have heard and i believe it is possible,in theory feeding your plant a certain flavor can take hold
but mainly in flowering when seed are being create so they may retain some of the flavor but to stabilize it will takes years but can be achieved.
I believe this from trying things out myself by adding too much molasses,and in return my leaves started sucking it in REALLY turned brown and
had a molasses smell to it,looked like manganese deficiency though.So in theory in seed production some will probably carry a sweet trait.
I am not claiming that this is factual but in theory it should work.Just wait until i make this grape Nehi strain lol
but mainly in flowering when seed are being create so they may retain some of the flavor but to stabilize it will takes years but can be achieved.
I believe this from trying things out myself by adding too much molasses,and in return my leaves started sucking it in REALLY turned brown and
had a molasses smell to it,looked like manganese deficiency though.So in theory in seed production some will probably carry a sweet trait.
I am not claiming that this is factual but in theory it should work.Just wait until i make this grape Nehi strain lol
MajorCoco
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Flamingos only get their bright pink colour because of the food they eat, however if their diet changes then they turn back to a lighter colour. They are not genetically pink in the same way that a cannabis plant would not become genetically "strawberry flavoured" because you were pumping it full of strawberry flavourings. That isn't how it works, even if the seeds themselves were to have any strawberry "flavour" to them this wouldn't be programmed into their DNA, which is what determines the resulting plant's flavour.
Feeding pigs apples may make the individual pigs taste better roasted, but constantly feeding generations of pigs apples will not result in a new apple-tasting pig variety!
Feeding pigs apples may make the individual pigs taste better roasted, but constantly feeding generations of pigs apples will not result in a new apple-tasting pig variety!
hazey grapes
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what's in your soil CAN greatly affect flavoring. some day i want to try mixing some cinnamon into a test plants soil to see what happens. i've already had experience with BAD flavors ruining plants
- i got HIDEOUS tasting weed from plants i grew about 30 feet from railroad tracks. it was similar to the vile taste of diesels, but so strong it made it completely unsmokable
- i can't stand blood meal at all either. even in smaller doses in organic ferts, it totally ruins the flavor unless you think iron tastes good. i don't. i knew SOMETHING was up in the mid 80s when all of a sudden beef started tasting extra bloody to me. no one else in my family is a supertaster, so they didn't notice it, but just a few years later when i heard about cows being fed cow scrap when mad cow broke out, i knew i wasn't imagining that yucky flavor.
- chemical ferts are nasty too. i got a really nasty metallic flavor out of some blue crystal fert i used to mix in water. the BEST tasting weed i ever smoked was grown in high quality compost made by the grower's food scraps. it was extra clean and fresh tasting.
- i've also gotten some nasty "oil" flavors out of seaweed extract, or possibly the low grade "organic" soil i was using with scraps of plastic bags in it that probably came from a dump.
- and of course dirt weed tastes just like that
there are other strains besides strawberry cough that have that flavor. if you REALLY want to bring out the most in your flavors, use fuller spectrum halides! they make a difference. you'll get lower yields, but higher quality mimicking sunshine. real sunshine is best. you might not like the idea of beans getting seized, but it doesn't happen often. i'd be more worried about sticky fingered postal workers or neighbors there. i have only heard of those that have had their gear yoked getting "it sucks to be you" letters unless someone has bought a lot of seeds indicating a commercial grow or reselling. you can get insurance at at least some sites like attitude. i only use that option for $100+ orders just to be safe myself.
then there's the sketchy bank issue. don't order from bc bud depot! they are despised for ripping customers off.
- i got HIDEOUS tasting weed from plants i grew about 30 feet from railroad tracks. it was similar to the vile taste of diesels, but so strong it made it completely unsmokable
- i can't stand blood meal at all either. even in smaller doses in organic ferts, it totally ruins the flavor unless you think iron tastes good. i don't. i knew SOMETHING was up in the mid 80s when all of a sudden beef started tasting extra bloody to me. no one else in my family is a supertaster, so they didn't notice it, but just a few years later when i heard about cows being fed cow scrap when mad cow broke out, i knew i wasn't imagining that yucky flavor.
- chemical ferts are nasty too. i got a really nasty metallic flavor out of some blue crystal fert i used to mix in water. the BEST tasting weed i ever smoked was grown in high quality compost made by the grower's food scraps. it was extra clean and fresh tasting.
- i've also gotten some nasty "oil" flavors out of seaweed extract, or possibly the low grade "organic" soil i was using with scraps of plastic bags in it that probably came from a dump.
- and of course dirt weed tastes just like that
there are other strains besides strawberry cough that have that flavor. if you REALLY want to bring out the most in your flavors, use fuller spectrum halides! they make a difference. you'll get lower yields, but higher quality mimicking sunshine. real sunshine is best. you might not like the idea of beans getting seized, but it doesn't happen often. i'd be more worried about sticky fingered postal workers or neighbors there. i have only heard of those that have had their gear yoked getting "it sucks to be you" letters unless someone has bought a lot of seeds indicating a commercial grow or reselling. you can get insurance at at least some sites like attitude. i only use that option for $100+ orders just to be safe myself.
then there's the sketchy bank issue. don't order from bc bud depot! they are despised for ripping customers off.
HotShot7414
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I am going to see if this can happen,so what I'm going to do is experiment on two of my young plants adding flavor when i water until harvest.
Any suggested flavors?
Any suggested flavors?
hazey grapes
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don't go too acidic or basic and don't clog your soil up with sugar. dry spices would be your best bet. i wouldn't try it on an entire garden either, just a couple test plants. i imagine it's been tried before and unless it's being kept a secret, it might be more trouble than it's worth. as you're keen on strawberries, that's a good potential flavor. you might try freeze drying strawberries to grind them into a powder, or maybe putting a piece of strawberry candy at the very bottom of your pot where it at least won't choke your soil. if they weren't so acidic, kool air flavors would be cool as they're easy to dilute in water. the easiest thing to do though is just to pick strains that have natural flavors of their own. after that, spices seem like the best candidates, though many of those might have pH issues too. a little should go a long way though i'd imagine considering that less than a pinch of chemical ferts in a pot can throw flavor.
cinnamon is about the most delicious spice if you ask me, but you could also try coffee beans i guess. i don't know how they'd affect flavor, but i bet plants would love nuts. i bought some vegan ferts that had all kinds of seeds in it, possibly even sunflower seeds without looking.
try looking the subject up with a search engine to see what, if anything works. it might not help the flavor much, but i bet plants like carrot juice to build off.
i still like the idea of cinnamon as it's a dry spice and a very distinctive and string flavor. dried pepper woul be a second choice and maybe garlic, but you could try any spice you like like greener ones such as thyme & oregano. i bet the licorice taste of anise would pass too if the tech actually works, but after trying real durban poison, it's not the funnest flavor to smoke. maybe cocoa powder would work too.
this is all theory though until you read up on someone that's tried to artificially flavor MJ.
i was just trying to find more info on the subject, and so far, the general consensus is that flavoring your soil is bunk, but you could always add flavor after the harves eg, putting cinnamon sticks or dried orange peels in your jars while your buds cure and passively absorb the flavors. you could even get away with using kool aid etc. that way as the plant is already dead when you're curing. you just wouldn't want to physically get any powder directly on your buds.
getting a flavor strain to begin with and feeding it organics under a full spectrum is the best method. all kinds of stuff can happen to growing plants when you mess with their chemistries.
cinnamon is about the most delicious spice if you ask me, but you could also try coffee beans i guess. i don't know how they'd affect flavor, but i bet plants would love nuts. i bought some vegan ferts that had all kinds of seeds in it, possibly even sunflower seeds without looking.
try looking the subject up with a search engine to see what, if anything works. it might not help the flavor much, but i bet plants like carrot juice to build off.
i still like the idea of cinnamon as it's a dry spice and a very distinctive and string flavor. dried pepper woul be a second choice and maybe garlic, but you could try any spice you like like greener ones such as thyme & oregano. i bet the licorice taste of anise would pass too if the tech actually works, but after trying real durban poison, it's not the funnest flavor to smoke. maybe cocoa powder would work too.
this is all theory though until you read up on someone that's tried to artificially flavor MJ.
i was just trying to find more info on the subject, and so far, the general consensus is that flavoring your soil is bunk, but you could always add flavor after the harves eg, putting cinnamon sticks or dried orange peels in your jars while your buds cure and passively absorb the flavors. you could even get away with using kool aid etc. that way as the plant is already dead when you're curing. you just wouldn't want to physically get any powder directly on your buds.
getting a flavor strain to begin with and feeding it organics under a full spectrum is the best method. all kinds of stuff can happen to growing plants when you mess with their chemistries.
Jogro
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Its one thing making plants take up a flavoring agent put into their feed. That can happen naturally if the root/fluid transport system is damaged. EG:
Doing that won't make the OFFSPRING of this plant any flavor; its a "party trick".
Its quite a different thing entirely to create a line of plant THAT MAKES THE FLAVOR ALL BY ITSELF.
For example, DJ Shorts "Blueberry" was bred from fruity smelling/tasting tropical Thai sativa plants and makes its own blueberry flavor.