Experiment: Clone direct to flowering, diminishing light schedule...

[GHOSTDOG SA]

I've thrown 8 clones in my grow room straight into 12/12 I'm not expecting a lot just thought I'd try it not a lots happening i think they might be in shock

 

[maximum]

Gave everyone aggressive bloom today. switched water with new. and added 75ml h2o2 into each 5 gallon bucket. clones still unchanged.

 

[asaph]

when you put young clones in soil, they usually won't start to flower right away - first they will grow more roots and stem as much as they can, then after 3 weeks of veg (even in 12/12) they'll start flowering. So in this stage they need more N, aggressive bloom doesn't sound like a good idea for the start.

 

[maximum]

Clones didnt get nute yet they dont have roots. but when they root your saying I should give them more nitrogen nutes instead of going right to bloom with the nutes? Even though the lighting is set to flowering?

 

[asaph]

yep yep. for at least two weeks. until the flowers really start to show you know. not just little hairs. this is the stretching period where the plant needs the most N it can get.

 

[maximum]

yep yep. for at least two weeks. until the flowers really start to show you know. not just little hairs. this is the stretching period where the plant needs the most N it can get.

ok bro thats good advice. Im going to do that then. thanks!

 

[maximum]

Two clones rooted today. They are both from Mandala 1 plants. Sativa pheno and indica pheno. Im leaving it a bit longer in the dome though. If anyone has tips at this point or later dont be affraid to shoot the at me.

 

[maximum]

Lights are now at 10.5 hours ON and 13.5 OFF.

 

[maximum]

So here is a couple pics of the mother plants from which the clones are taken to give you an idea how far along they are in development under the current diminishing light schedule.

 

[tellno1]

looking nice Maximum ....

 

[maineyankee]

Those are looking pretty nice Max

I take it with the amount of posting, that they are doing just what you have expected thus far. Good work Mate

The MaineYankee

 

[maximum]

Ok guys, today I bought a LU600S. Its a 600watt HPS bulb. I got it for $125. Im going to replace the CFL's with HPS tomorrow. Any objections to me doing this at this stage in the plants life cycle? Im just curious.

 

[asaph]

once rooted, it's never too early for full light.

 

[maximum]

So I planted 2 clones November 24th. Both mandala #1. NYC Diesel still has tiny roots. Burmese kush clone died and so did the plant. It was a runt so I culled it. Not worth my time.

 

[maximum]

do you guys think I should raise the clones higher so they are closer to the light? I never grew with hps before.

 

[missnu]

Idea:

Is to test the final yeild of a plant that is cloned during flowering (1 week into it). The clone is put into a jiffy pod. The jiffy pod is inside a dome. Look at my pictures. The dome is placed inside the flowering room. It will root under flowering schedule and put directly into a 5 gallon bucket with nutes. No veg cycle. Direct to flower. But here is the catch. The light schedule is starting at 11on - 13 off. In 2 weeks the lighting is reduced by half an hour. 10.5 on - 13.5 off. Every 2 weeks we drop the light by half an hour. I will then test the yield. (A typical yield for me is 45grams dried weight to 75grams dry weight per plant using 18/6 to veg and 12/12 to flower. But I never had this much CFL lights before lol)

Info:

3 cuttings taken. 1 Burmese kush. 1 mandala#1, 1 NYC diesel. ( there are actually 4 cuttings but one will leave the room in case this lighting schedule doesnt yield well.) Clones are in a JIFFY POD. I applied rooting hormone to each cutting. 42watt 6500K CFL bulb hangs above them.

Nutrients:

General hydroponics. Plants are currently on Flora series( grow, micro, bloom). First week of flowering was 50ml of each. Second week I start
FloraGro- 0
FloraMicro-50ml
FloraBloom-100ml
and I will continue that schedule for 4 weeks. Im really just using the nutrient calculator here http://www.genhydro.com/calculator/index.html. Ive used other nute schedules but this is my favorite.

Tent is a secret jardin dark room 2. 4x4. http://www.secretjardin.eu/index/catalogue/objet-30/lang-en

Air cleaner is a cann filter 50. http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/itemdesc.asp?ic=AOCCF050&eq=&Tp=

Lighting is CFL bulbs:
6 x 42watt 6500K
6 x 26 watt 2700k
2 x 105 watt 6500k
Total light 618watts (plus 42watts for the clones)
Veg cycle: 18/6

Buckets have air stones and full of water with nutes. Simple bubbler.

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So are we testing clone flowering or diminishing light schedule?

 

[missnu]

I'm not sure about this but I think 600w CFLs produce more heat than 600w HPS. They just use less electricity for lights, so more goes to heat waste.

for flowering from clone, I would think even 1gl would be enough, but you can go with 1.5-2gl if you wanna be on the safe side I guess.

CFLs are way cooler than HPS....way way way less heat, but less of the light produced is able to be used by the plant at the given time when compared to HPS or MH, So they use less electricity and also output a different light spectrum

 

[missnu]

do you guys think I should raise the clones higher so they are closer to the light? I never grew with hps before.

Sorry for splitting this up...no good with lists...lol. Anyway, HPS get super hot so you don't want them too close, really let the bulb stay on for a bit and then put your hand above the top of the plant and then move the light as close as you can to your hand until you feel alot of the heat, if you feel like your hand is burning it will be too close to the plants. I don't know if that made any sense at all...but I mean well...lol

 

[maximum]

So are we testing clone flowering or diminishing light schedule?

testing the affects of a diminishing light schedule on a clone thats placed into it.

 

[maximum]

Sorry for splitting this up...no good with lists...lol. Anyway, HPS get super hot so you don't want them too close, really let the bulb stay on for a bit and then put your hand above the top of the plant and then move the light as close as you can to your hand until you feel alot of the heat, if you feel like your hand is burning it will be too close to the plants. I don't know if that made any sense at all...but I mean well...lol

can the clones be as close from the light as an adult plant?