4000 watt Sour Grapes & Space Queen coco grow

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Here's the setup:

Grow Room:
4 x 1000w Lumatek digital ballasts
4 x 1000w Lumatek HPS bulbs
4 x Magnum XXXL 8" air cooled reflectors
1 x CAN FAN 10" HO exhaust fan
1 x CAN FAN 8" HO intake fan
1 x C.A.P. Temp/Humidity controller
white and black visqueen to line grow room walls

Plants:
24 x Space Queen clones
24 x Sour Grapes clones

Medium:
Coco in 2 gallon pots

Nutrients:
House and Garden Coco A&B
CalMag
ProTekt silica
Roots Excelurator
Hygrozyme
Open Sesame
Thrive Alive B-1 red
Diamond Nectar
Great White mycorrhizae
Sweet
Liquid Light & Saturator foliar feed
Purple Maxx
Gravity

The plants were only vegged for 1 week before throwing into flower.

Week 1 VEG: Plants were potted in 100% coco in 2 gallon pots. The reservoir contained A&B (6ml/gal), CalMag (5ml), ProTekt (2ml), Roots Excelurator (1ml), Hygrozyme (8ml), Thrive Alive B-1 (12ml), Diamond Nectar (2ml every other feeding), Great White (5 scoops per 10 gallons, twice per week), and Sweet (10ml).
-Clones started at around 6". After 1 week of growth they had grown to just over a foot.

Week 1 FLOWER: Nutrients stayed the same except Sweet was increased to 15ml/gal and Open Sesame was added at a rate of 1/4 teaspoon/gal.

Week 2 FLOWER: Sweet increased to 20ml/gal and Open Sesame increased to 1/2 teaspoon/gal. Small lower branches and lower bud sites that are or will be shadowed by the canopy were removed at the end of week 2. I gave a slightly higher dosage of Thrive Alive after pruning to reduce stress.

Week 3 FLOWER: Week 3 started with the same reservoir mix as week 2. Half way through week 3 I gave a feeding of ONLY Hygrozyme (10ml), CalMag (10ml), Sweet (25ml), and Open Sesame at 1 teaspoon/gal. That feeding was yesterday. That full dose of Open Sesame is the last dose of it that my plants will receive. Week 3 will be finished off with the the same mix as week 2 but without the Open sesame.

Week 4 FLOWER: I'm not there yet but will start adding Purple Maxx in small doses and gradually increase through harvest. CalMag will be increased to 10ml/gal through harvest. Foliar feeding of Liquid Light & Saturator foliar feeding will start at 60ml of each PER LITER of water every 3 days for the next 2 weeks.

Weeks 5-8 FLOWER: Depends on how the plants are looking. Once plants are mid flowering cycle I adjust my nutrients according to how the plants are looking and reacting rather than sticking to a recommended feeding schedule.

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Thanks. Last grow I did with this setup was OG Kush. Ended up yielding 4.23 lbs of buds and 140 grams of bubble hash.
 
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Here's the photos of my plants, fans, electric, and light setup. I was only able to take photos with my phone camera so the quality isn't the best.
 

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I stopped feeding with open sesame. Since the buds have bulked up a lot in the last couple days I gave a feeding with 1/2 tsp/gallon of purple maxx today.

Todays feeding (per gallon): 25ml Sweet, 12ml Thrive Alive, 10ml CalMag, 1/2 tsp Purple Maxx, 1ml Roots Excel., 2ml ProTekt, 4ml Diamond Nectar, and 5 scoops of Great White per 10 gallons.

I didn't feed Coco A&B this time in order to keep my ppms down some. When I use Purple Maxx I either cut way back on my A&B nutes or cut them out all together.
 
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GHOSTDOG SA said:
I'm sub'd mate great looking grow do hand water? if you do that's gotta be a bitch
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I have a mondo utility pump hooked up to a garden hose hooked up to a garden wand. it has enough reach for me to crouch down and water the whole garden under the canopy. I use a 44 gallon brute garbage can and lid as my reservoir. today I'm going to start foliar feeding with liquid light and saturator for the next two weeks.
 
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vanislandguy said:
You ever do 12 plants on 3000w with a 6 week veg?
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if you don't have height limitations you could do four plants per light vegged at 6 weeks. I'd recommend using 5 or even 7 gallon pots at that point though since you'll want a larger root mass to support that big of a plant. I never veg past a month and usually go 2-4 weeks. on this grow I only vegged my plants to 1 week and did larger numbers. it seems to be working good. I usually do 9 plants per light with a 2 to 3 week veg.
 
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Here's some new pictures of the room. Other than buds getting bigger not much has changed. I foliar fed with a full gallon of water today mixed with 240ml of liquid light and 240ml of saturator. When I came back to the room they had responded well and all the leaves were reaching towards the light. 3-4 more feedings of liquid light to boost growth and then I'm cutting it out since the buds will be getting big and I don't want to risk any botrytis.

I maybe should have done only 1/4 tsp per gallon of Purple Maxx. 2 of the 48 plants showed slight signs of burning at the tips. 2 out of 48 isn't bad though and it was only the Sour Grapes. The Space Queen plants are fine. After only one small feeding of Purple Maxx a few of the plants (both Sour & Space) showed some purple on the fan leaves. There has also been a significant amount of trichomes forming on the Space Queen plants in just 2 days after applying the Purple Maxx.

So far so good! I tried to take a panorama of the room with my phone so you could see the whole thing from my standpoint. It came out a little blurry but hopefully you get the gist of it.
 

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It's been almost 4 days since I've seen my plants. I wasn't able to make it to my grow space so I had a friend water for me from a reservoir I premixed beforehand. I can't wait until my lights turn on today and I get to see what's happened in the last 4 days.

Here's some pics from November 29th taken with a better camera. They're showing good node spacing. The crystals/trichomes have blown up just after 1 feeding of Purple Maxx. 1/2 tsp per gallon of Purple Maxx was a little too strong for the Sour Grapes so I cut it down to 1/4 for now. The Space Queens handled the 1/2 tsp/gal much better.
 

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So I have come to the conclusion that the place I got my cuttings at mixed up the labels on the different trays. I have grown Sour Grapes and the clones they labeled as the sours looks nothing like Sour Grapes. The clones they gave me labeled as Space Queen look exactly like the sours have looked for me every time I have done them. I'm 99 percent positive that they got mixed up when labeled.

Here's some pictures of the space queen I took yesterday. The quality of the buds it is producing are good but I'm not sure I am liking the yield on it just yet. It's still 3-4 weeks out depending on whether its an 8 or 9 week strain. I'm hoping they put on some size in the next couple weeks.
 

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And here are the Sour Grapes, the real ones. I read somewhere that Sour Grapes is actually Gage Green Grape Stomper. The article said that somebody stole a cutting and sold it outside of Gage Green. I don't know about that story but after looking at the Grape Stomper in a google search I can believe that it's the same thing.

Here's some sour grapes pics I just took before the lights kicked on. I'm pretty sure I didn't take any duplicates of the same colas.
 

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Hey man very nice setup. Clean and precise. Do you do same-age harvest all the time or have you ever mixed it up with the different stages of flowering? Also, do you have co2 hooked up at all?

I run a 7ft x 8ft room right now, not many plant. I use 1 1000w raptor hood with phantom ballast and hps bulb. Man how do you keep your temps low with 4? My temps are always at 66-68 degrees but thats because i suck in the filtered cold air. How do you do it? And i can only imagine the electricity. Ahh I have too much to experience before adding any more lights. I am sure you have plenty under your belt already. How often do you foliar feed btw? I just swithed to H&G two weeks ago, and their magic green is absolutely amazing. GL man ill be taking a seat for this journey.
 
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