Economy Is Improving

NoDrama · Nov 16, 2011

dukeanthony said:
Then i would beat your ass and shove your cell phone up your ass. Kind of a pussy for someone who sides with racists. No wonder you are afraid of minorities

Only a real man could kick my ass, you aren't a man. Besides i don't really think you would do that.

Coals · Nov 16, 2011

OK does anyone want to get back to topic?

I still have seen no concrete evidence the economy is improving LONG TERM. I see lots of evidence that it is going to get worse in the long run.

As far as fiat currency is concerned I beleive all fiat currency is bad and prone to failure. However, our fiat currency (and most of the 1st worlds fiat currency) is especially toxic. If the government could print it's own money, be it fiat or not, it could control its budget. Even with a fiat currency, a government could at least in theory spend 1 dollar without dooming itself.

I don't think the answer is to hoard a bunch of silver and undercut the Federal Reserve and eventually force it to crumble as JFK tried. But I think that should be the final goal executed in a slow methodical way. The first step is to make our own fiat currency for the people, not for the banks. Then we can work on getting rid of the fiat portion of OUR currency (as opposed to theirs).

dukeanthony · Nov 16, 2011

Coals said:
OK does anyone want to get back to topic?

I still have seen no concrete evidence the economy is improving LONG TERM. I see lots of evidence that it is going to get worse in the long run.

As far as fiat currency is concerned I beleive all fiat currency is bad and prone to failure. However, our fiat currency (and most of the 1st worlds fiat currency) is especially toxic. If the government could print it's own money, be it fiat or not, it could control its budget. Even with a fiat currency, a government could at least in theory spend 1 dollar without dooming itself.

I don't think the answer is to hoard a bunch of silver and undercut the Federal Reserve and eventually force it to crumble as JFK tried. But I think that should be the final goal executed in a slow methodical way. The first step is to make our own fiat currency for the people, not for the banks. Then we can work on getting rid of the fiat portion of OUR currency (as opposed to theirs).

Maybe you should actually look.

Dan Kone · Nov 16, 2011

The economy is not improving. Corporate profits are improving. The "economic" is only improving if your a shareholder. If you work as your primary source of income the economy is staying the same or maybe even getting worse.

We've been lied to for a long time. We've been told stock prices = economic health. Well that's just not true anymore. Stock prices now = more wealth for the elites. But stock prices are useless as a measure of the economy as it effects the 99%.

dukeanthony · Nov 16, 2011

More people are going back to work
More people are spending
Yes the economy is getting better
if you only look for the bad and ignore the good
You will find what you are looking for

Dan Kone · Nov 16, 2011

dukeanthony said:
More people are going back to work
More people are spending
Yes the economy is getting better
if you only look for the bad and ignore the good
You will find what you are looking for

Stock prices have basically made a full recovery at this point, but unemployment is still around 9%. It's only getting better of you own stock in companies. The companies are doing better but rather than creating jobs they are just pocketing the boost.

The economy is getting better for the wealthy, not for everyone else.

mccumcumber · Nov 16, 2011

The economy is getting better for the wealthy

You mean job creators... That will surely create jobs! At least that's what Hannity told me.

dukeanthony · Nov 16, 2011

Dan Kone said:
Stock prices have basically made a full recovery at this point, but unemployment is still around 9%. It's only getting better of you own stock in companies. The companies are doing better but rather than creating jobs they are just pocketing the boost.

The economy is getting better for the wealthy, not for everyone else.

Demand is Overwhelming supply at this point
Companys are starting to hire becuase Overtime cuts into their profits
We are hiring 4 or 5 people every week
Unfortunatly The skilled labor we need already has jobs

Dan Kone · Nov 16, 2011

dukeanthony said:
Demand is Overwhelming supply at this point
Companys are starting to hire becuase Overtime cuts into their profits
We are hiring 4 or 5 people every week
Unfortunatly The skilled labor we need already has jobs

Well actually American companies are hiring, too bad those jobs are in east asia.

Unemployment hasn't significantly gone down. Until it does, you can't claim any sort of recovery for the 99%, only recovery for the wealthy.

dukeanthony · Nov 16, 2011

Dan Kone said:
Well actually American companies are hiring, too bad those jobs are in east asia.

Unemployment hasn't significantly gone down. Until it does, you can't claim any sort of recovery for the 99%, only recovery for the wealthy.

tell you what Dan
Give me the Zip code of a major city near you

hazorazo · Nov 16, 2011

UncleBuck said:
if i remember correctly, these people grew up and still reside somewhere on the east side of the river, out towards the gresham area. one or two of them were from hood river but moved to the east side sometime in their early teens.

what was funny was when the guy we were trimming for took my side and told them that they probably had a lot of gay friends and simply didn't know it because their intolerance wouldn't allow those friends to even reveal such a fact.

Hahaha, I bet they were like, " WHATTTTT? NAWWWWW!". Always makin me laugh UB.

mccumcumber · Nov 16, 2011

I'd hate to speak for the dank one, but based on the area codes in his location section, I would guess:
94172 and 95123

NoDrama · Nov 16, 2011

dukeanthony said:
Demand is Overwhelming supply at this point
Companys are starting to hire becuase Overtime cuts into their profits
We are hiring 4 or 5 people every week
Unfortunatly The skilled labor we need already has jobs

OIC you think that just because the job you work is hiring, that must mean all is well and that all businesses are hiring. If the USA creates 400,000 more jobs than it loses, how many years will it take to be at full employment?

dukeanthony · Nov 16, 2011

mccumcumber said:
I'd hate to speak for the dank one, but based on the area codes in his location section, I would guess:
94172 and 95123

next 100 postings <-------JOBS

NoDrama · Nov 16, 2011

dukeanthony said:
next 100 postings <-------JOBS

90% of those jobs are temporary or part time or minimum wage. Some of them aren't even jobs, they are focus groups or euphemisms for prostitution jobs. I bet unemployment pays better than 90% of those jobs.

dukeanthony · Nov 16, 2011

NoDrama said:
90% of those jobs are temporary or part time or minimum wage. Some of them aren't even jobs, they are focus groups or euphemisms for prostitution jobs. I bet unemployment pays better than 90% of those jobs.

Get a fucking job and stop whining

Dan Kone · Nov 16, 2011

dukeanthony said:
tell you what Dan
Give me the Zip code of a major city near you

There really is no anecdote you can give that takes away the fact that we have a very high unemployment rate.

Sure, jobs get created, but at the same time more get fired. There may be a hundred people competing for each of those jobs. What about the 99 people who don't get a job. Sure, they might go and apply for another job, then they are back to competing against all those people again.

The fact remains, there aren't enough jobs to go around right now. To attempt to pretend that isn't true is to deny reality.

dukeanthony · Nov 16, 2011

Dan Kone said:
There really is no anecdote you can give that takes away the fact that we have a very high unemployment rate.

And it waint gonna get better with everyone sitting at home collecting uc and whining

Dan Kone · Nov 16, 2011

dukeanthony said:
And it waint gonna get better with everyone sitting at home collecting uc and whining

You're right. It will get better when corporations stop firing people so they can send their jobs to east asia so the 1% can harvest more profits while everyone else is fucked.

dukeanthony · Nov 16, 2011

Dan Kone said:
You're right. It will get better when corporations stop firing people so they can send their jobs to east asia so the 1% can harvest more profits while everyone else is fucked.

Well I agree with that
But there are jobs now. And people wont take them becuase they dont pay as much as they used to make.
instead They Whine and Bitch and Complain. Get off the net and get a fucking job, I took a job that paid 80 bucks more a week than unemployment paid. I now have a job that pays more than i made before I got laid off. There are Jobs available, And you cant blame the goverment, illegals or Corporations for people not taking them.

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