Two Vans Hit Chinese Toddler 18 Passers-by Ignore Her Suffering
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Nusky
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no they're not, they're a manufacturing country. They need people to buy their shit. Mostly north america buys their shit. If our economy tanks theirs will soon after too.
Why was this kid playing in the street in the first place? Where was the child's parents and why wasn't anyone looking after her? What happened was wrong, yes, but she shouldn't have been left in the street. Blame the parents.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
For what? Anyone who has had children know what talent they have for teleporting, even if for a minute or two. In North America, that child would have caused a screech of the brakes and some beeping. At the very least the driver would have been surrounded by cell phone cameras. The social immune system at work.
I blame Chinese social mores for this. A van hits&runs? Ok; nasty, but that was a fluke. A second van goes crunch crunch over her feet? That wasn't just a fluke. Eighteen people walk by and think the boxy squiggles equivalent of "not my problem"? That underlines something systematic, a basic difference in social morality. A creepy one to my civilized middle-class sensibilities that desperately want to believe that the world is a good place steadily becoming better.
Kids get away from parents. It happens. It's normal. Despite fearmongering stories about kidnap and child sex crime displacing stories about normal stuff, the West is a much safer place for a toddler on adventure. cn
Nusky
New Member
how'd she open the door and get out? I know when I was that small, I couldn't open a metal door to a shop. Plus it doesn't show how she got there at all just that she was in the middle of the street. Its a biased video to make it seem like china and communism is evil when in fact communism works just fine. I've seen many things people turn a blind eye to in Canada. Stabbings, muggings, people getting beat down into the street by 2+ people. Only reason why this got any attention at all is because it happened in China and they are evil.
wiimb
New Member
agreed!!!!!!!
The Cryptkeeper
Well-Known Member
Well I don't know how the fact that nobody even payed it a SINGLE thought can be skewed....
SocataSmoker
Well-Known Member
Glad I was raised differently than those people...
They should all be ashamed but perhaps they don't know that feeling.
They should all be ashamed but perhaps they don't know that feeling.
ohmy
Well-Known Member
mods need to take this shit down. fuck I do not have kids and shit like this is the reason why
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
How can a simple, unnarrated security camera video be biased?
If it were just the hit&run it would not be about urban China ... those happen worldwide, even though the "wait, fuckit, drive on" part would have more of a Third World signature.
The subsequent events do strongly suggest that a distressing percentage of "person in the street" Chinese in that city/region don't have reliable empathy toward strangers, even their own.
How the child got into the street is incidental imo. The pan shot of the neighborhood at the video's end showed many shopping stalls, some open. I can easily see how the child got away from mama or auntie whose attention was on negotiating price, or not getting stiffed on change.
I guess I'm taken aback that you'd want to shift blame onto the parent(s). As a parent myself I know it's impossible to monitor kids 100.0% of the time, and "don't take them shopping" is not a practical solution or one I'd recommend. cn
ganjames
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"The “Nanjing judge” refers to an infamous 2006 incident where a young man named Peng Yu went to the aid of an elderly woman who had fallen down on the street in the eastern city of Nanjing. At the woman’s request, Peng helped take her to the hospital only to have the woman turn around and accuse him for being the person who knocked her down. A Nanjing judge then ruled that “common sense” suggested that Peng only took the woman to the hospital because he was guilty and ordered him to pay her medical expenses.
The story was picked up by the Chinese media and quickly became a cautionary tale for many Chinese: no good deed goes unpunished.
In 2009 it was reported that an elderly man, also in Nanjing, fell while getting off a bus. Usually this wouldn’t be news except for the fact that he was only helped up by onlookers after he himself bore responsibility and announced to them that he had fallen on his own."
I guess some people just don't want to get fucked over not knowing there was a video camera, still very fucked up though.
The story was picked up by the Chinese media and quickly became a cautionary tale for many Chinese: no good deed goes unpunished.
In 2009 it was reported that an elderly man, also in Nanjing, fell while getting off a bus. Usually this wouldn’t be news except for the fact that he was only helped up by onlookers after he himself bore responsibility and announced to them that he had fallen on his own."
I guess some people just don't want to get fucked over not knowing there was a video camera, still very fucked up though.
The Cryptkeeper
Well-Known Member
How are various unrelated people scared to call the cops when a baby has been ran-over? x)
ganjames
Well-Known Member
why do so many people ride those moped things around?
Nusky
New Member
I just don't see how you could not blame the parents. They weren't looking after the daughter. If you don't look after her for a second, she'll disappear. If you know that, then why wouldn't you be looking after her constantly. Never let your guard down, it only takes a second. You can buy leashed for this very reason. If it happened to my daughter, I'd blame no one buy my self and you should too. I'm not saying what the vans did was not wrong, but she was short, the first van probably didn't even see her to begin with, then after running her over thought it was garbage or an animal and kept on going. The second one probably thought it was a doll or just plain didn't see it. There are lots of things that could have happened. As for the passer byers, I've been injured a few times on the street unable to get up and people just walk around me. It happens just because its a kid doesn't change that fact.
Also, the security camera didn't magically turn on just as the kid was in the street. It was on when the kid was walking there too
Also, the security camera didn't magically turn on just as the kid was in the street. It was on when the kid was walking there too
april
Pickle Queen
I find this video very offensive but taking it down would only include me in the many people who turned a blind eye, people should see this and maybe they wont let such horrible things happen to anyone!! But i still can't watch past 10 seconds without wanting to cry, what has this world come 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I agree that if that was my daughter I'd be consumed by guilt stemming from a sense of failure in my duties. That is the usual human response. However I would cast a very jaundiced eye upon anyone who'd say that it was entirely my fault. Blamestorming is facile and ultimately unproductive.
I certainly don't think the parent in the video is blameless, but I don't think isolating her as the only one to blame would be a healthy response either. I can see your arguments in re the drivers not being aware, although that first driver did peg a standing kid pretty much square-on. That is where I would be placing the bulk of blame.
Maybe I am seeing this through the prejudiced eyes of a Westerner. I have never been to the Asian mainland. I would be uneasy about living in a neighborhood where I had to keep an eagle eye on my kids 24/7, and all told I'm grateful i seem to live in a gentler place, where the chances of the video event string happening are tiny.
I imagine we can both agree that the little girl was colossally unlucky. cn
whileilaydying
Active Member
first shit in a long time that made me legit cry....