Americans founded this land and created a government on this land. End of story.

apbx720

apbx720

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UncleBuck said:
*debt

everyone look at their keyboard. the 'p' and the 'b' are very far apart.

this is not a spelling error, this is his best attempt at spelling the word.

this is, in my experience, typical of the state of texas education system.
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haha "keep yr gov't hands off my shitty ass education system". has he said that yet? hahaha
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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mysunnyboy said:
seriously kid, we all know you are not a lawyer...and your family is not wealthy (i believe that's how they refer to it, not RICH lol) you are a kid, living in a "suburban" city (whatever the hell that is), who can't take his happy ass out to buy a bag of $2 dirt from walmart, doesn't know the name for a light socket but has a 200 watt cfl, and wants to save money to move to a "cheap" city in california. wow you're funny. and kinda' sad actually. you don't know what america stands for, how it was developed, Christ you don't even know that kidnapped is one word. like someone said, sad reflection on the state of america's sub-standard educational system.

you need to do as many drugs as you can little brother cause life isn't going to get any better for you :peace:
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snap!
 
Turtlehermit

Turtlehermit

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Eh this is useless. You idiots must think countries are made off people giving out milk & cookies. STOP WAR! WAR IS BAD! Pffft fucking hippies.
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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Turtlehermit said:
I have my different opinions on shit. Everyone has there opinions. Don't like it, fuck off. The Indians cut people up, enslaved each other, and made mistakes just like everyone else. We had a war over the land, we one. Its not a big deal. We don't have to sit around and moan about what is a normality in making a country. Slaughter comes hand in hand with war.
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and this is how the military doesnt need a draft

please breed turttlepuss so my kids dont have to be drafted
 
Carne Seca

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The ignorance about First Nation peoples is absolutely astounding. It's a part of American history and hardly anyone has a fucking clue. First of all there were hundreds of different tribes with entirely different cultures, languages, customs, types of homes, diet, spirituality. Teepees were used by Plains tribes. Permanent homes for most of the other tribes. The Navajo tribe had huge orchards of peach trees. They were once called The Lord of The Earth by other tribes. They had two types of homes one for summer and one for winter. Pueblo people have been living in towns long before Europeans came up with the concept. What about the mound builders? The Mandan? Not all Native Americans were egalitarian. Most had gardens and orchards and livestock.

I bet most of you didn't know that the Constitution was based on the Great Haudenosaunee Law of Peace. Which governed the 6 (so-called) civilized tribes. The Oneida, Mohawk, Cayuga, Onondaga, the Seneca and Tuscarora. Which had a provision regarding the equality of women that was left out of the Constitution of the U.S.. Nor, do I suspect, that any of you know the stories of raping and pillaging savage "Indians" were (for the most part) propaganda used to justify atrocities against native peoples. I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying it was a rare incident.

All of that pales in comparison to atrocities like The Sandcreek Massacre, Wounded Knee, The Trail of Tears, The Long Walk, Canyon del Muerto, The forced relocation of Apache, Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, and Seminole to Oklahoma. The deaths were in the hundreds of thousands. By the time America was done, 1/3 of the native population was wiped out by disease (introduced deliberately or by accident), massacre, relocation, and starvation.

We had a holocaust in this country and to this day our government will not acknowledge it.

Oh and one final thing. Slavery among Native folk was a completely different concept than among white folks. Usually slaves were taken in times of war or were captured after attempts at raiding or stealing. They usually worked for the tribes for a time in servitude and were eventually released or married into the tribe.
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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Carne Seca said:
The ignorance about First Nation peoples is absolutely astounding. It's a part of American history and hardly anyone has a fucking clue. First of all there were hundreds of different tribes with entirely different cultures, languages, customs, types of homes, diet, spirituality. Teepees were used by Plains tribes. Permanent homes for most of the other tribes. The Navajo tribe had huge orchards of peach trees. They were once called The Lord of The Earth by other tribes. They had two types of homes one for summer and one for winter. Pueblo people have been living in towns long before Europeans came up with the concept. What about the mound builders? The Mandan? Not all Native Americans were egalitarian. Most had gardens and orchards and livestock.

I best most of you didn't know that the Constitution was based on the Great Haudenosaunee Law of Peace. Which governed the 6 (so-called) civilized tribes. The Oneida, Mohawk, Cayuga, Onondaga, the Seneca and Tuscarora. Which had a provision regarding the equality of women that was left out of the Constitution of the U.S.. Nor, do I suspect, that any of you know the stories of raping and pillaging savage "Indians" were (in the most part) propaganda used to justify atrocities against native peoples. I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying it was a rare incident.

All of that pales in comparison to atrocities like The Sandcreek Massacre, Wounded Knee, The Trial of Tears, The Long Walk, Canyon del Muerto, The forced relocation of Apache, Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, and Seminole to Oklahoma. The deaths were in the hundreds of thousands. By the time America was done, 1/3 of the native population was wiped out by disease (introduced deliberately or by accident), massacre, relocation, and starvation.

We had a holocaust in this country and to this day our government will not acknowledge it.
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thanks for being more in depth
 
Filthy Phil

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Turtlehermit said:
If the white men who had taken over the land of America had not over thrown the Indians living on this land, China or someone else would have eventually. The Indians were living in Teepees, while else Europe and China and other places were in palaces, houses and such. The Americans came around and civilized the land, built houses, a government, and presidents to rule over. The Indians would not been able to do that, did not want to do that, and would have surely took years to do so if the Americans had not. Now a user named 0calli did not like my opinion on that but too fucking bad. Deal with it. We did not steal the land. According to the way of conquering, those that claim land must govern the land with officials. :peace:
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Native americans did govern their tribes and lands with officials. They actually had established nations and borders with political interaction.

As to what you would refer to as less advanced or civilized in terms of science and architecture, there is complete explanation as to why. With no beasts of burden or domesticable meat animals aside from dogs, native americans were not usually able to attain the huge surplus of reources needed to sustain developement of technology and architecture. The east west orientation of eurasia allowed exchange of agriculture and livestock due to similar climates that stretch for thousands of miles. This allowed for abu.dance of food which led to technology and cultural developements. Our white ancestors were simply fortunate in the land and geographically localized resources.

You need to read "guns germs and steel: a brief history of everything in the last 17000 years" by jared.diamond. I think thats the name and author. Seriously, you need to read it, it will free you of much anger that I can see you have inside, that is unless you are enjoying your anger.

Peace buddy, its not just a saying, its an outlook
 
Turtlehermit

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You girls can sit around and spout your insults at me and make my dick tingle till I burst and I can sit here and respond in gratitude. Your choice ladies. Suck my dick or gtfo.
 
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