Got burnt for the second time..... STAY AWAY FROM CARGIVERS IN HONOR MICHIGAN!!!!

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Buddy Ganga

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bob harris said:
I agree with this too. most "patients" are abusing the system. The vast majority of card holders that I know, have no real medical condition that qualifies them for use. They just ponied up a couple hundred bucks to DR feelgood working out of a hotel room for their approval.

That however doesn't justify "care givers" helping them abuse the law.
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Most "patients" ? Funny seeing that in a thread filled with meat puppets admitting they are breaking the law and justifying it with little more then idiocies calling themselves caregivers.
 
CountGlochula

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fdd2blk said:
if you are a grower, why do you want or need my growing rights in the first place?

if you are willing to ask me to sign my rights over to you, you better be willing to pay. you obviously need me as much as i need you or you wouldn't need me. ;)

why would a grower take on a patient in the first place?
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i don't go begging for patient's my list has been full, they come to me begging for the next slot ;^)
 
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CountGlochula said:
repeat customer's and not being able to keep up with demand speaks for itself,now if couldn't give it away then i would start lookin into clinical's.my "patient's" love me.
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So you're not concerned with quality, only that the stoners say it works for them? What strain would you recommend for movement disorders and why? Any clue what thcv is and why it's important? Always stoners looking for dope, this is a Medical thread, so inform me of why your weed is a good medical strain.
 
stumpjumper

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25 years away said:
That to me makes no sense then! A dispensary is nothing more than an establishment in which P to P transfers are occuring, so why would it be any different for an individual doing the same thing?? Because they don't have some big storefront! How the F* would that make any difference? Why would a court not treat you as a dispensary if you were transferring to any patient holding a card? And apparently nothing of value can be exchanged for the CG's services! I think they all need to hit the pipe a little more, or perhaps for the first time!
I'm still sticking to just my own patients as I don't see it clear enough in the law to cover my ass in court.
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Do you know the difference between P2P and C2P? There are still dispensaries open who operate on a C2P level..

bob harris said:
This is correct, a caregiver in Michigan is only allowed compensation from HIS REGISTERED patients.
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That isn't true man. Although a safe way to play.
 
Buddy Ganga

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CountGlochula said:
that's not what the federal gov. selfrighteous a$$.your an addict plain and simple.
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First you try to hide behind the compensation laws to explain why it costs your ignorant ass 300 and 400 $ to produce an oz of meds and now you are trying to throw in Fed laws to back out of being a complete fuck tard dope dealer.

Sorry you fucking meat puppet, but as soon as you say you need to make bank so if you go to jail your family is taken care of, you have nothing to say concerning the law. And it's not "if" it's "WHEN" you go to jail....
 
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I do think, and this is only my opinion so take it for what it's worth, that a good majority are in it for the money, and the stoners (potheads, whatever they are called, by whomever) are providing them that income. It's wrong because it's unlawful, and unethical because they are doing it in the name of medical treatment! I am/will be working on a CBD rich strain in an effort to lower, or completely eliminate the THC from it to help those that need the anti-inflammatory properties, but don't like the heady, anxiety part of it. Donations from patients help to offset my initial investment, nearly $8K, and to help with the additional work going into the project.
 
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fdd2blk said:
if you are a grower, why do you want or need my growing rights in the first place?

if you are willing to ask me to sign my rights over to you, you better be willing to pay. you obviously need me as much as i need you or you wouldn't need me. ;)

why would a grower take on a patient in the first place?
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I'd never take on a patient..I prefer avoiding "caregiver" status...and I certainly don't need more plants. My 12 are enough to supply more than 5 patients. A true care giver could supply 5 people without needing more plant count. The reason they want plant count is to over grow and profit.

It would however be nice to be able to transfer my overages and recoop my costs...but legally I can't do that right now.

Although it is still a federal crime, the feds aren't looking for the self growing patient..they are looking for the ass wipes that trade an oz per month for the rights to the patients 12 plants.

The 12 plant count per person was intended to allow the individual self grower an adequate number of plants to establish a continual harvest grow. A few in veg, a few in the cloner, a few in flower..with enough plants to guard against failed crops. It was not intended to allow people to have 60 plants for 5 people, and only give the patients 1 oz per month, while cash cropping the rest.

The self righteous attitude of "care givers" like Count is exactly why the State is tightening the laws.
 
25 years away

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Stump,
Not trying to argue or stir up anything! Just want a bit of clarification for everyone. You need to direct me to what portion of the law thats defines exactly what a caregiver is, and his authority to dispense meds. Does it actually state whom he can dispense them to? There may still be dispensaries open but that certainly doesn't mean they are operating within the law. Just as there are many "CG" operating outside the law.
 
Buddy Ganga

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bob harris said:
I'd never take on a patient..I prefer avoiding "caregiver" status...and I certainly don't need more plants. My 12 are enough to supply more than 5 patients. A true care giver could supply 5 people without needing more plant count. The reason they want plant count is to over grow and profit.

It would however be nice to be able to transfer my overages and recoop my costs...but legally I can't do that right now.

Although it is still a federal crime, the feds aren't looking for the self growing patient..they are looking for the ass wipes that trade an oz per month for the rights to the patients 12 plants.

The 12 plant count per person was intended to allow the individual self grower an adequate number of plants to establish a continual harvest grow. A few in veg, a few in the cloner, a few in flower..with enough plants to guard against failed crops. It was not intended to allow people to have 60 plants for 5 people, and only give the patients 1 oz per month, while cash cropping the rest.

The self righteous attitude of "care givers" like Count is exactly why the State is tightening the laws.
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Man, I was all happy about your post right up until you insulted caregivers. Try clarifying the difference between idiots like countsmuckula and myself, because there are huge differences. His type is why they are restricting the laws now, not caregivers like myself.
 
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CountGlochula said:
wow, way over your simple head.
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so that's a "no"? can't come up with anything,eh?


you need them so you can gain more profit for yourself. :)

you think they are dumb and can't even grow so you simply take advantage of them. if they don't like it, they can get bent.



am i close?
 
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