Obama is it because he is Black or Democrat

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NoDrama

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I have no idea what that first graph is trying to point out since there is no legend. And the second graph proves NOTHING since the president has ZERO control over the Dow, and the Dow isn't the economy. The DJIA has increased because of actions taken by the Federal Reserve, has nothing to do with Obama.

So what does the first graph indicate? Number of Pall Mall smokes Barack has hot boxed?

Also the second graph points to Obama deploying the second half of TARP, but it was Bush who signed TARP into law, not Obama.

Those graphs aren't doing what you want them to do. In fact they kind of make the Graph maker look kind of like a big fat liar liar pants on fire hanging from a telephone wire.
 

mame

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the first graph is net jobs lost or created, by month.

although I think it's fair to point out that it stops in march.
 

deprave

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I don’t know which it is or maybe it’s neither but I never seen so much hatred for a president so what is it and don’t say it’s because he does not do what he says he was going to do because if that’s the case then we would be talking about every president. I’m not posting a thread to bash Obama but I would love to know why he’s hated so much. Is it because he black or democrat.
Ok so well since in your little spiel here, going back on his word doesn't qualify (it should) I will try to do my best to skip that part and give you a little summary of why people hate Obama, saying its because hes black and pulling the race card is absolutely ridiculous, NewsFLASH: 55% of the population (those who currently disprove of obama ARE NOT RACIST)

First I will correct you on your first point: OBAMA IS NOT A DEMOCRAT BY PHILOSOPHY ONLY BY ASSOCIATION!


*Bailed out the banks - The ones that committed fraud on the people - bailed these effers out.....so they could take corporate vacations...

*Started another needless war and continued the current needless wars

*continued to support the drug war

*violated the constitution many times over and used executive order to go around congress

*support global government and the UN - takes his barking orders from the UN (pisses off the NWO conspiracy theorist) - on this note - he coincidentally fits into their conspiracy - every person he put in office is part of the CFR - Obama himself has met with bilderburg and the CFR

*Net negative on job creation, We have lost 2.4 million jobs under obama

*Obamacare like many of other Obamas bills has failed, Obamacare failed the dems in that it did not give us universal healthcare (20k-30k bracket is still going to be hurting) - failed the right by introducing mandates - failed the healthcare system by increasing costs (the right argues that the increase in cost reduces jobs)

*continued to allow the FED to devalue the dollar and spend more

*Obama has pissed off the left and right cause hes not left enough, his bi-partisian ideas don't work - centrist banker puppet obama does not get anything done

*Renewed the Patroit Act allowing more violations on our constitutional liberties

*has done nothing to help out the middle class or poor - the left dislike this additionally because of the fact that the bush tax cuts go on without opposition

*Eventually increased DEA marijuana raids - despite saying otherwise

*Allows the FDA to raid farmers

*Allows Monsanto to continue to sue farmers and spray deadly chemicals - essentially obama has done nothing to help the small farmers

*Supports the TSA grouping our wives and babies


The gist of it is that he has allowed corporations to continue their tireless effort to stomp out humaninity and create a consumer state that feeds their interest, he has done nothing in this regard, essentially...Obama has done NOTHING for the people.....more of the same shit.. IF YOU APPROVE OF OBAMA - You are some kind of masochist and you probably cut your wrist - either that or you really don't know whats going on

I can go on but I need to go have a drink brb
 

dukeanthony

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Ok so well since in your little spiel here, going back on his word doesn't qualify (it should) I will try to do my best to skip that part and give you a little summary of why people hate Obama, saying its because hes black and pulling the race card is absolutely ridiculous, NewsFLASH: 55% of the population (those who currently disprove of obama ARE NOT RACIST)

First I will correct you on your first point: OBAMA IS NOT A DEMOCRAT BY PHILOSOPHY ONLY BY ASSOCIATION!

*Bailed out the banks - The ones that committed fraud on the people - bailed these effers out.....so they could take corporate vacations...
<----how much was paid back ?

*Started another needless war and continued the current needless wars

Unanimously supported by the senate not a single loss of American Life We got rid of a dictator who has been our enemy for 25 years

*continued to support the drug war
Holder Memo


*violated the constitution many times over and used executive order to go around congress
Give examples of him violating the Constitution

*support global government and the UN - takes his barking orders from the UN (pisses off the NWO conspiracy theorist) - on this note - he coincidentally fits into their conspiracy - every person he put in office is part of the CFR - Obama himself has met with bilderburg and the CFR
Tin foil hat alert

*Net negative on job creation, We have lost 2.4 million jobs under obama
Wrong Refer to chart posted a page back

*Obamacare like many of other Obamas bills has failed, Obamacare failed the dems in that it did not give us universal healthcare (20k-30k bracket is still going to be hurting) - failed the right by introducing mandates - failed the healthcare system by increasing costs (the right argues that the increase in cost reduces jobs)
Obamacare was a GREAT IDEA when the Republicans were pushing it

*continued to allow the FED to devalue the dollar and spend more
Price of OIL continues to Drop Inflation is near non existant

*Obama has pissed off the left and right cause hes not left enough, his bi-partisian ideas don't work - centrist banker puppet obama does not get anything done
Hyperbole

*Renewed the Patroit Act allowing more violations on our constitutional liberties
Let three provisions be extended The rest of the law Is LAW permanently since Bush

*has done nothing to help out the middle class or poor - the left dislike this additionally because of the fact that the bush tax cuts go on without opposition
Refer to Obamacare and the fact we arent in a major depression

*Eventually increased DEA marijuana raids - despite saying otherwise
Increased them over what Bush was doing?

*Allows the FDA to raid farmers
As well as they should We dont need pandemic food Poisoning

*Allows Monsanto to continue to sue farmers and spray deadly chemicals - essentially obama has done nothing to help the small farmers
The Farmers Bought the seeds with the agreement that they wouldnt keep the patented seeds. The Farmers did. Now they get sued


The gist of it is that he has allowed corporations to continue their tireless effort to stomp out humaninity and create a consumer state that feeds their interest, he has done nothing in this regard, essentially...Obama has done NOTHING for the people.....more of the same shit.. IF YOU APPROVE OF OBAMA - You are some kind of masochist and you probably cut your wrist - either that or you really don't know whats going on
YOu will never see the benefit of what he has done since you hate him

I can go on but I need to go have a drink brb
Sounds like you have had too much already
 

PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1

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Yea,,,It's because he's A Black Demorat,,,and not a WASP...The only thing worse would be a Muslim Democrat president!,,,,Oh wait some think he already is!!!!
 

deprave

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Nice dodging there obamazombie dukeanthony - maybe you should actually look into some of the stuff I talked about, not sure why you support more of the same violation of human rights and murder.

"See Holder Memo" Refer to the fact that marijuana raids have actually increased no matter what this lying sack of shit said. Arresting Marijuana users is a violation of constitutional rights. The drug war continues, regardless of what some dude wrote on a sticky note in what is now revealed as a political stunt. I would say - 'SEE THE DOJ MEMO THAT FOLLOWED THE HOLDER MEMO'

"As well as they should We dont need pandemic food Poisoning" - The swat team should raid for example: Amish people that sell Raw Milk as they have for years - I think not. The goverment should choose what we put in our bodys via teargas and submachine guns - I think not - again constitutional rights violations here.

"Price of OIL continues to Drop Inflation is near non existent" - I will answer that with your own word "Hyperbole"

"The Farmers Bought the seeds with the agreement that they wouldnt keep the patented seeds. The Farmers did. Now they get sued" not quite - Monsanto owns a patent on genetics that blow in the wind, farmers who never used their seeds had their crops effected by these genetics and got sued by monsanto, interesting enough you didn't mention the spraying of deadly chemicals. Furthermore - Organic farmers and farmers who try to go about their own way of doing stuff with out ponying up the money - are shutdown, growing your own with your own nutrients and fertilizers - FORBIDDEN IN THE LAND OF THE FREE -

"YOu will never see the benefit of what he has done since you hate him" Please enlighten us and give us something obama has done to CHANGE humanities for the better. There is nothing! - Why can't you see this? Because your an obama zombie.

Obama has supported the corporate state of consumerism, Obama has supported the banking cartels, drug cartels, and corporate fraud machine, Obama has kept their power in tact, Increased the corruption, Increased the war on liberty, moved forward tyranny, and done nothing for the People. Cash for fucking clunkers stunt and whatever.... Political stunts that did jack shit to move forward humanities and progress, more of the same crap.......Progressive Obama is not....Democrat he is not....Corporate bitch he is...
 

hazorazo

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Every consider the fact that he simply isnt qualified? I think his record over the last few years explains a lot. I know he took over during bad times. Not only has he NOT been able to turn things around we are still bleeding like a stuck pig and its only getting worse
Hard to turn things around with a congress that lacks logic working against you. Really, Republicans may think they are winning, but they are losing all of the independent vote right now, and also losing a lot of their base.

Overall, this comes down to race, in my opinion. And the lack of common sense on the right. Especially the lack of common sense with the Tea Party (which I hate calling them, because it shits all over a GREAT moment in American History....all for this bullshit, racist crap).
 

deprave

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Hard to turn things around with a congress that lacks logic working against you. Really, Republicans may think they are winning, but they are losing all of the independent vote right now, and also losing a lot of their base.

Overall, this comes down to race, in my opinion. And the lack of common sense on the right. Especially the lack of common sense with the Tea Party (which I hate calling them, because it shits all over a GREAT moment in American History....all for this bullshit, racist crap).
Will you listen to yourself? It all comes down to race.....Are you fucking kidding? I am not saying the republicans have done the right thing (far from) but Obamas whiney cry baby exscuse of 'wwaaaaaaa the republicans won't let me' is ridiculous and then you go and throw into that crybaby exscuse 'its because I'm black', I cant believe you fall for that crap. Obama can change so much without the congress but he doesn't.
 

ihatepolice

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Hard to turn things around with a congress that lacks logic working against you. Really, Republicans may think they are winning, but they are losing all of the independent vote right now, and also losing a lot of their base.

Overall, this comes down to race, in my opinion. And the lack of common sense on the right. Especially the lack of common sense with the Tea Party (which I hate calling them, because it shits all over a GREAT moment in American History....all for this bullshit, racist crap).
I really dont understand why some people act as if this is not the biggest issue with him. Everything you guys are naming has been done by other presidents, GWB started a needless war we knew it and we got over it and congress never stood in his way. Not like this theyre acting like children.
 

deprave

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He could do a lot of humaninity and progress, I will talk about a few things he could do since theortical list would be so large I will keep it short. In particular he can do a lot using executive orders.

1) He could bring the troops home right now


2)The DRUG WAR
He could order federal prosecutors to deemphasize drug prosecutions relative to other priorities (without actually banning such prosecutions entirely). He could issue pardons or commutations in some of the more egregious drug cases (ones involving police abuses or extremely long sentences for minor offenses). He could keep President Obama&#8217;s broken campaign promise and genuinely end medical marijuana prosecutions in states where medical marijuana is legal.

3) End the federal reserve or increase the federal reserves transparency - cripling corporate fraud - saving the economy and the fall of the us dollar - and the increase in cost of living

4) Limit the crimes of the FDA and corporations like Monsanto on the american people and other corporate violations of our rights.

5) Allowed JP morgan to go bankrupt.

6) Limit or end the power of the TSA and their ability to violate our rights.

7) Limit the powers of FEMA.
 

deprave

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Days before his assassination JFK signed an executive order that WOULD HAVE crippled the power of the FED - NO PRESIDENT - has demonstrated such bravery ever since.

President Kennedy's Executive Order (E.O.) 11110 modified the pre-existing Executive Order 10289 issued by U.S. President Harry S. Truman in 1951,[1] and stated the following[2]:
"The Secretary of the Treasury is hereby designated and empowered to perform the following-described functions of the President without the approval, ratification, or other action of the President..."
The order then lists tasks (a) through (h) which the Secretary may now do without instruction from the President. None of the powers assigned to the Treasury in E.O. 10289 relate to money or to monetary policy. Kennedy's E.O. 11110 then instructs that:
SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 9, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended (a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):
'(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821(b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of an outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption,' and (b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.
SECTION 2. The amendments made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.
John F. Kennedy, THE WHITE HOUSE, June 4, 1963.
 
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