Irish Boys Return Of The Inferno With The Spectra 180's

[hellraizer30]

Any one ever mess around with the 24-36hrs dark time before flower? any one see any differences?

Yes i have and seen no real advantage in doing so

 

[hippy132]

The lites were as hi as could get about 40 inches. This am the plants look much greener, I will mist the undersides of leaves this morning. Humidity is around 70% with tent closed up, but run with partial open for air circulation and have three fans going always.

Day 11

 

[Lucius Vorenus]

Anyone besides Irishboy have any experience flowering with the Spectra 180?

 

[stoneyluv]

Anyone besides Irishboy have any experience flowering with the Spectra 180?

I have been flowering with the 2011 V1's since june.

 

[hippy132]

I misted the undersides of the leaves and all but one of the ladies perked up, put that one under a glass jar... How often can and should I folair spray with water and kelp? Thanks, they already are standing up and leaves dont look so droopy.

 

[schwagness]

The lites were as hi as could get about 40 inches. This am the plants look much greener, I will mist the undersides of leaves this morning. Humidity is around 70% with tent closed up, but run with partial open for air circulation and have three fans going always.

Day 11

I am at 34" with a single Spectra 180W on single seedling for 4 days now. It appears to be happy and still growing well. I will let the plant acclimate itself a little more, with another set of leaves and I will start lowing it slowly.

 

[stoneyluv]

I misted the undersides of the leaves and all but one of the ladies perked up, put that one under a glass jar... How often can and should I folair spray with water and kelp? Thanks, they already are standing up and leaves dont look so droopy.

like irish said, let it dry up a bit. when you foliar feed, the plant doesn't use the roots to absorb water. this causes the roots to stay soggy, which invites root rot and mold. The plants are hardier than you think.

once it is dry ( could take days) it might be good to add a little H2O2 to the water to make sure there is nothing growing on the roots. here is a link to a great site about it. http://www.using-hydrogen-peroxide.com/gardening-with-hydrogen-peroxide.html

I am at 34" with a single Spectra 180W on single seedling for 4 days now. It appears to be happy and still growing well. I will let the plant acclimate itself a little more, with another set of leaves and I will start lowing it slowly.

don't be to anxious to lower the light, mine are at that height in flowering. a seedling doesn't need much penetration, there is no reason to stress the young girl. She will grow just as well with the lights that far away.

 

[irishboy]

The lites were as hi as could get about 40 inches. This am the plants look much greener, I will mist the undersides of leaves this morning. Humidity is around 70% with tent closed up, but run with partial open for air circulation and have three fans going always.

Day 11

sounds good

Anyone besides Irishboy have any experience flowering with the Spectra 180?

lots of people, just use Google. ive posted pics on here of others grows also with 180's. I have no experience with flowering with the 180's at all. 1st time using them for the whole grow. ive use other models in the past like the 300's and stuff

I misted the undersides of the leaves and all but one of the ladies perked up, put that one under a glass jar... How often can and should I folair spray with water and kelp? Thanks, they already are standing up and leaves dont look so droopy.

i would only do it about once a week, let that soil dry out.

I am at 34" with a single Spectra 180W on single seedling for 4 days now. It appears to be happy and still growing well. I will let the plant acclimate itself a little more, with another set of leaves and I will start lowing it slowly.

their should be no need to lower it, let the plant grow into it. it can do more harm then good by lowering the light allot. let the plant chose what it wants. these leds are different and they want to be high up IMO

like irish said, let it dry up a bit. when you foliar feed, the plant doesn't use the roots to absorb water. this causes the roots to stay soggy, which invites root rot and mold. The plants are hardier than you think.

once it is dry ( could take days) it might be good to add a little H2O2 to the water to make sure there is nothing growing on the roots. here is a link to a great site about it. http://www.using-hydrogen-peroxide.com/gardening-with-hydrogen-peroxide.html



don't be to anxious to lower the light, mine are at that height in flowering. a seedling doesn't need much penetration, there is no reason to stress the young girl. She will grow just as well with the lights that far away.

right on the money!

 

[irishboy]

Yes i have and seen no real advantage in doing so

ya ive heard that before. i gave them a little dark time to see what happens but only 24hrs just because.lol. i was never really sold on that.

 

[hippy132]

sounds good

lots of people, just use Google. ive posted pics on here of others grows also with 180's.


i would only do it about once a week, let that soil dry out.

their should be no need to lower it, let the plant grow into it. it can do more harm then good by lowering the light allot. let the plant chose what it wants. these leds are different and they want to be high up IMO


right on the money!

Going to let the ladies dry out for day or two. I am wondering what anyones thoughts are for, premixing with peroxide , water, EJ Grow and magical to come to inside temp by setting aside for two days, or should nutes be used immediately after mixing with water? Thanks, things are looking better.

 

[irishboy]

Going to let the ladies dry out for day or two. I am wondering what anyones thoughts are for, premixing with peroxide , water, EJ Grow and magical to come to inside temp by setting aside for two days, or should nutes be used immediately after mixing with water? Thanks, things are looking better.

some should some shouldnt.
i would not mix H2O2 with organics!

EJ is best when brewed for a day or so from what ive read it will allow the PH to come into range because ive read its real low when just mixed,

 

[irishboy]

let get it on!!! Tomorrow will be day 1 of flowering.. wish me luck on even getting them to bud in these crazy high temps, lets hope for the best..

 

[hippy132]

like irish said, let it dry up a bit. when you foliar feed, the plant doesn't use the roots to absorb water. this causes the roots to stay soggy, which invites root rot and mold. The plants are hardier than you think.

once it is dry ( could take days) it might be good to add a little H2O2 to the water to make sure there is nothing growing on the roots. here is a link to a great site about it. http://www.using-hydrogen-peroxide.com/gardening-with-hydrogen-peroxide.html



Help if you can, should I water with H2o2 and water only, when they are dried out ,then wait until they dry out second time and hit them with some lo concentration of nutes?

 

[stoneyluv]

let get it on!!! Tomorrow will be day 1 of flowering.. wish me luck on even getting them to bud in these crazy high temps, lets hope for the best..

alright!!!!!!!! let's make it happen!!!!! my best karma goes out to your girls Irish!!! bud,bud,bud,bud,bud.... (echoing off in the distance.)

like irish said, let it dry up a bit. when you foliar feed, the plant doesn't use the roots to absorb water. this causes the roots to stay soggy, which invites root rot and mold. The plants are hardier than you think.

once it is dry ( could take days) it might be good to add a little H2O2 to the water to make sure there is nothing growing on the roots. here is a link to a great site about it. http://www.using-hydrogen-peroxide.com/gardening-with-hydrogen-peroxide.html



Help if you can, should I water with H2o2 and water only, when they are dried out ,then wait until they dry out second time and hit them with some lo concentration of nutes?

I would just let them dry out good then give it straight water. the reason i would do this is because you have already been giving nutes and they have been soaking in that nute/water solution for a while now. let em dry out and give em water to flush all the salts and shit off.

 

[hippy132]

alright!!!!!!!! let's make it happen!!!!! my best karma goes out to your girls Irish!!! bud,bud,bud,bud,bud.... (echoing off in the distance.)

I would just let them dry out good then give it straight water. the reason i would do this is because you have already been giving nutes and they have been soaking in that nute/water solution for a while now. let em dry out and give em water to flush all the salts and shit off.

To date: I am on day 11 of 4 inch pots of clones. Originally they were all potted in straight sun#4 pro and wetted down with straight water. They didn’t appear to be growing as well as they should so we repotted them in 3 gallon smart pots using new pro #4 sun and equal parts chunky pearllite. Wetted down with water and kelp solution. 11 days later and hit them with folar spray this am of kelp, they all but one started not drooping and developing darker green. I have yet to water other than to wet down the original and repotted mixtures.

So, first watering should I use straight water, add some H2o2 or water w some diluted nutes?


Thanks, great folks and wonderful help.

 

[stoneyluv]

alright!!!!!!!! let's make it happen!!!!! my best karma goes out to your girls Irish!!! bud,bud,bud,bud,bud.... (echoing off in the distance.)


To date: I am on day 11 of 4 inch pots of clones. Originally they were all potted in straight sun#4 pro and wetted down with straight water. They didn’t appear to be growing as well as they should so we repotted them in 3 gallon smart pots using new pro #4 sun and equal parts chunky pearllite. Wetted down with water and kelp solution. 11 days later and hit them with folar spray this am of kelp, they all but one started not drooping and developing darker green. I have yet to water other than to wet down the original and repotted mixtures.

So, first watering should I use straight water, add some H2o2 or water w some diluted nutes?


Thanks, great folks and wonderful help.

most soils have enough nutrients in them to feed a plant for a few weeks. like i said before, just water them when they dry out.

 

[irishboy]

SS#4 dose not really have any foods in it because its soiless. it has a very small charge but nothing big. so some seaweed and a lite dose of nutes could help if you havent really added any. but if in soil they you would have food.

 

[irishboy]

i can say right now i am not a fan of the 24hr dark before flower. i just turned on the lights and all my new growth is yellow, seems like they went hungry because they dont eat at night. hope they green back up. they were great before i gave them the dark time

 

[hippy132]

SS#4 dose not really have any foods in it because its soiless. it has a very small charge but nothing big. so some seaweed and a lite dose of nutes could help if you havent really added any. but if in soil they you would have food.

Good info, I assumed SS#4 had foods init what makes it so expensive and usable.

 

[schwagness]

don't be to anxious to lower the light, mine are at that height in flowering. a seedling doesn't need much penetration, there is no reason to stress the young girl. She will grow just as well with the lights that far away.

their should be no need to lower it, let the plant grow into it. it can do more harm then good by lowering the light allot. let the plant chose what it wants. these leds are different and they want to be high up IMO

Thanks guys, I will certainly heed the warning. I moved my light up a couple more inches to 36". I can't go any higher than that, without having to rig a new hanging harness.