Irish Boys Return Of The Inferno With The Spectra 180's

every year we get more UV from the sun, ever wonder why some strains flourish outside and suck inside and others are the opposite, its UV its the only component missing in indoor lighting versus outdoor. No ones really been able to get it right yet though, someday s1 will make a light just like the sun. No one better say HPS in here lol, but yea UV seriously varies by strain and if you use the wrong NM like you said your just fucked in general.

irishboy said:

UV has to be in the right NM if not they its not good. UV or IR will look like a burnt out leds but thats just to ou eyes the plants get the color though. i am not sold on the UV but thats just me, i remember all the grows and test way back in the day on it.. some of the higher NM might help but its not needed.

ya its not like the sun dose not put UV out.lol.

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i said screw it for the name of testing the new lights and slam on set of lights allot closer to a set of two plants to see what happens? i went from 28" to about 20" and going to about 15-18". i want to see what happens? the other lights are all about 24" and i haven't really moved those too much, but want to see if closer on these lights will do something better?

irishboy said:

i said screw it for the name of testing the new lights and slam on set of lights allot closer to a set of two plants to see what happens? i went from 28" to about 20" and going to about 15-18". i want to see what happens? the other lights are all about 24" and i haven't really moved those too much, but want to see if closer on these lights will do something better?

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Your grow is now with the V3's? What benefit if any would there be to lowering lites in veg stage? Dumb question, sorry...

irishboy said:

i said screw it for the name of testing the new lights and slam on set of lights allot closer to a set of two plants to see what happens? i went from 28" to about 20" and going to about 15-18". i want to see what happens? the other lights are all about 24" and i haven't really moved those too much, but want to see if closer on these lights will do something better?

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BAM!!!! now that's puttin it on!!!!!!! can't wait to see your results..... I gt my fingers crossed for ya!!!!!

hippy132 said:

Your grow is now with the V3's? What benefit if any would there be to lowering lites in veg stage? Dumb question, sorry...

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If I may Irish,

Hippy, he has been flowering now for a few days. so NOT a dumb question at all!! and yes, he is using three spectra 180 V3's in a 4x4 space

hippy132 said:

Your grow is now with the V3's? What benefit if any would there be to lowering lites in veg stage? Dumb question, sorry...

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the only dumb question is the one not asked my friend!
i am not vegging right now but flowering not sure if you knew that?

but having a light closer in veg dose not help much unless if ur lights too high, basically you dont want ur plants to stretch out, so if they were they lowering the light will help stop that and cheat closer nodes witch latter in flowering will help give those fat connected buds. its more of a thing where u need to learn how to read the plants because too much light in veg can hurt them. but that would be the benefit. ive been using the new lights for over a weak now?

stoneyluv said:

BAM!!!! now that's puttin it on!!!!!!! can't wait to see your results..... I gt my fingers crossed for ya!!!!!



If I may Irish,

Hippy, he has been flowering now for a few days. so NOT a dumb question at all!! and yes, he is using three spectra 180 V3's in a 4x4 space

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ya bro i thought we could use the info so i am willing to try lowering the lights close to see what happens? once i learn what they can handle i can then go from their and test what height gives best results. i might do somthing like this on my 3 rows of plants. one row 12" another 15" and the last 20" who knows ill just go with the flow, but i would like to see whats the ideal range?

thanks for answering the question.

irishboy said:

ya bro i thought we could use the info so i am willing to try lowering the lights close to see what happens? once i learn what they can handle i can then go from their and test what height gives best results. i might do somthing like this on my 3 rows of plants. one row 12" another 15" and the last 20" who knows ill just go with the flow, but i would like to see whats the ideal range?.

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That sounds like a great idea with the three levels of distances. do any of them Shadow the others at different heights the way you have it now?

stoneyluv said:

That sounds like a great idea with the three levels of distances. do any of them Shadow the others at different heights the way you have it now?

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no because their not close together really.

how much dyna grow bloom do you use?

fartman said:

how much dyna grow bloom do you use?

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5ml per gal

looking good man. I'm close to starting my next round. Going to have the 2 290w's over my aeroflows still, the plasma is going to go over a flood and drain table, and I'm firing up my 1k in a tent in my garage. Just took cuts Saturday and had a buddy take some cuts for me on Friday so hopefully a little over a week from now I'll be rolling.

Kaptain Kron said:

every year we get more UV from the sun, ever wonder why some strains flourish outside and suck inside and others are the opposite, its UV its the only component missing in indoor lighting versus outdoor. No ones really been able to get it right yet though, someday s1 will make a light just like the sun. No one better say HPS in here lol, but yea UV seriously varies by strain and if you use the wrong NM like you said your just fucked in general.

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There is a light out by hydroponicshut.com called a plasma light. It's in a lot of ways similar to a CFL spectrum but it puts out more intense light. It produces UVC at 3% as a by product of the bulbs chemical reaction. And supposedly there's no filament to burn out. They claim its 100,000 life hours.

i am going to have to say i think the closer the lights the better on these new V3's. i lowered the light about 20" from my smallest runts 1.5 days ago? well the next day growth was impressive on those two plants, today its even better those small runts are now catching up to the plants on the far right witch were a noticeable different from them. all lights are lowered now.
its till hot as heck here about 97F

runts were the ones that have always been on the left side and the comparing ones are on the far right.

They look great. 97 is hot, but it's still much better than what it was!!!

You're gonna keep the lights at these different heights for the rest of flowering, right?

just curious if those buds would be a different size. Are you still liking the new containers?

stoneyluv said:

They look great. 97 is hot, but it's still much better than what it was!!!

You're gonna keep the lights at these different heights for the rest of flowering, right?

just curious if those buds would be a different size. Are you still liking the new containers?

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ya still hot but not as bad. hope i can get them to flower?lol

all lights will be closer then what they are. some are still in the 25" range. at the end i would like to try maybe 12",15",20" but just gonna go with the flow.

i like the containers so far i dont see anything bad but nothing too impressive, i will know more once i harvest and pull the roots up.

hope this grow rocks it out? the heat always has me worried and really messes with plants in bloom. should be cooling down soon. next grow its on!!

Damn well those are looking nice for 97F, hopefully going into late September and October youll get better temps
Looking good sir

irishboy said:

ya still hot but not as bad. hope i can get them to flower?lol

all lights will be closer then what they are. some are still in the 25" range. at the end i would like to try maybe 12",15",20" but just gonna go with the flow.

i like the containers so far i dont see anything bad but nothing too impressive, i will know more once i harvest and pull the roots up.

hope this grow rocks it out? the heat always has me worried and really messes with plants in bloom. should be cooling down soon. next grow its on!!

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I am also anxious to harvest a plant using my air-crates so I can take a look at the root mass.

I'm glad to hear that you are gonna go with three different heights. when i get my panels I will probably stagger them also.... maybe i could use three different heights than you are using so we have more collective data.

^^^ Curious about the air pots as well heard good things.

Also question for both of you seeing as you have been growing with LEDs, some people say the soil dries slower(as opposed to HPS), do you find that the air/cloth pots dry faster?

BlazedMonkey said:

Damn well those are looking nice for 97F, hopefully going into late September and October youll get better temps
Looking good sir

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thanks buddy! ya 97F isnt as bad as it was my room has hit 110F this year.lol. but the high temps is what i kinda want to support my theory. after i see the size of my buds last year in the same temps i was impressed. i know with the leds i dont get heat stress as far as damaged leafs but i am noticing they have a very hard time flowering. ive changed a few things this grow to see if i can get past that? hopeing it will work this round?lol

very soon the temps should break and ill be trying to keep the room hot.lol

stoneyluv said:

I am also anxious to harvest a plant using my air-crates so I can take a look at the root mass.

I'm glad to hear that you are gonna go with three different heights. when i get my panels I will probably stagger them also.... maybe i could use three different heights than you are using so we have more collective data.

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that would be best! the more info we have the better we learn how to use them. Mike was telling me his friend has the 290w 6" from the plant because of lack of head room and his plant looks great. so hopping these can be used closer with no issues? i think the glass out id giving them better spectrum mix with the added 120 degree whits and making things blend pretty good. i just want the buds i usually get or better and i will be a happy man.lol

BlazedMonkey said:

^^^ Curious about the air pots as well heard good things.

Also question for both of you seeing as you have been growing with LEDs, some people say the soil dries slower(as opposed to HPS), do you find that the air/cloth pots dry faster?

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yes leds do dry slower and the air pots do dry faster but not a whole lot IMO or at least the ones i have. its a more of a even dry with my pots IMO. the HPS radiant heat is what makes them dry faster then led.

my pots are different then most allot more thicker and different made. i have the Geo pots.

ive owned plasmas and used them not reliable enough yet they have problems firing up off of a timer The company gave me the runaround and blamed my timer lol said it wasnt HD enough. I was all im using a 50 amp timer built into my breaker box lol they didnt care. But i agree as of right now its probably closest to the suns spectrum.

Jman305 said:

There is a light out by hydroponicshut.com called a plasma light. It's in a lot of ways similar to a CFL spectrum but it puts out more intense light. It produces UVC at 3% as a by product of the bulbs chemical reaction. And supposedly there's no filament to burn out. They claim its 100,000 life hours.

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