What do modern day servicemen and veterans think of Ron Paul and the government?

[hazyintentions]

you're right, realclear shows him with the best chance. too bad he will never get the nod

and although his polling is up from 7% or so to 8% or so (congrats!), he is still in 5th place and trailing the leaders by substantial margins. no one cares about him or takes him seriously. he has a lot of cultists that worship at The Altar of Paul, but having a ridiculous number of threads on pot growing sites does not equal the votes it will take to get the nod.

have fun dealing with that.

Define "no-one"? Perhaps you mean the media? Perhaps Bill O'Reilly represents the interests of all of America.

I will not deny that many, many, many people would walk over broken glass for Ron Pauls' conviction and ideals, bet you no other candidates has a support base like that.

In fact all 100% of Ron Paul's campaign contributions have been grassroots, and you say there is not even a slight chance that there is a "revolution"? I beg to disagree. I can point at millions and millions of donated (devaluing) dollars that would beg to disagree.

Also, are you saying the troops across the worlds don't care? Do you believe they like the thought of continuing these wars/occupations as demostrated by the other canidates is suddenly going to ring true for them? I think not. I think they want to come HOME, it's insanity to think we belong all over the world while troops die, completely insane.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nte4juPIU00

In fact more and more people are liking what Ron Paul has too say, I could post a bunch of videos to prove this point but you will not watch them so I will not bother myself with it.

Having a so many threads on a pot growing site definitely isn't going to raise a ton of votes, no shit, that point is MOOT. What is true is that a good amount of people who can successfully grow marijuana have the habit of doing a lot of things on their own like coming to clear concise beliefs so if your trying to infer every person here is a mindless zombie with no reasoning I would say your barking up the wrong tree.

Looks like Paul slipped a lot lately to me. He lost 8 points. More than any other candidate during this time. Looks like the Texans are going with the Gov.

ORC for CNN, (8/24-25, Republicans, 8/5-7 in parentheses):
Rick Perry: 32 (1
Mitt Romney: 18 (23)
Michele Bachmann: 12 (9)
Newt Gingrich: 7 (
Ron Paul: 6 (14)
Herman Cain: 3 (5)
Gary Johnson: 2 (n/a)
Jon Huntsman: 1 (5)
Rick Santorum: 1 (2)
Thad McCotter: 1 (n/a)

From 14 to 6 after Perry (a Texas native) jumps into the fray yet Perry has not even been in a debate yet, his little glory parade won't last forever.


What saddens me is that most of these people who support the other candidates and therefore don't support Ron Paul aren't looking into politics very deeply. I'm willing to bet on that statement.

 

[BendBrewer]

What saddens me is that most of these people who support the other candidates and therefore don't support Ron Paul aren't looking into politics very deeply. I'm willing to bet on that statement.

Exactly. It's because they are Republican Voters. Ron Paul doesn't have a chance of winning them over. Not a chance. That's what we are trying to get you to understand. Newt is polling higher than Paul. And you think you guys have a chance in hell?!?!?!? Dude, you don't. I have no idea why you think you are going to change the voting habits and perception of all Republican voters with an angry grandpa.

I'll look forward to that thread when it all dawns on you.

 

[hazyintentions]

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[video=youtube;AnNgp92v7PY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnNgp92v7PY&feature=related[/video]

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[video=youtube;Z6FtNP8B6Ho]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6FtNP8B6Ho&feature=related[/video]

[video=youtube;BU7equCcvGE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU7equCcvGE&feature=related[/video]

I bet these troops beg to disagree with you guys.

 

[BendBrewer]

Why would you think I would watch a video that you liked? Do you really think that I would take the time to watch something you thought I should watch?

Why don't you learn to express your own thoughts in your own words? Again, Ron Paul is polling at 6% right now. Behind Newt Gingrich.

I get it. You think RP is going to win the GOP nomination. I am telling you that he isn't going to win it. I think you need to start excepting that very real possibility. Who are you going to support in the General when Paul is not an option? Because he isn't going to be. I'll bet you.

Here's another vet on Paul.

"Hey dad, what do you think of Ron Paul?"

"I think he is off of his rocker and way to extreme. Love dad"

 

[londonfog]

........... I guess they think if they put up enough vids you will see the light... I don't watch that shit myself

 

[hazyintentions]

Exactly. It's because they are Republican Voters. Ron Paul doesn't have a chance of winning them over. Not a chance. That's what we are trying to get you to understand. Newt is polling higher than Paul. And you think you guys have a chance in hell?!?!?!? Dude, you don't. I have no idea why you think you are going to change the voting habits and perception of all Republican voters with an angry grandpa.

I'll look forward to that thread when it all dawns on you.

Your right, but the republican party used to stand for what Ron Paul advocates, shoot Bush ran on a similar humble foreign policy back in his 2000 bid for election. The true Republican ideals have been lost, same goes for a lot of the Democratic party, they are both the same entity as far as I'm concerned. How far fetched is it to hope that Republican voters start getting serious about their votes representing their ideas instead of what they hear from tv hosts?

Ron Paul represents the true Republican values but more so the true values of the Constitution.

What bugs me is that here is a candidate who receives every bit of his support from grassroots with no corporations ties, who has never changed his tune and always been honest, who is becoming a force to be reckoned with yet all people can do is shoot him down at every opportunity they can, yet I don't see anyone else like Ron Paul running, I don't see anyone else talking who has been about bringing troops home, or ending the Fed, or giving states rights back for decades.

I'll be looking forward the time when people start craving economic independence, anti-war mongering, and honest politicians myself.

 

[hazyintentions]

........... I guess they think if they put up enough vids you will see the light... I don't watch that shit myself

Videos are a representation of an idea, for every veteran making those videos how many other veterans support those ideas? What do you think, 1; 10 100; 1,000; 10,000?

 

[UncleBuck]

I can point at millions and millions of donated (devaluing) dollars that would beg to disagree.

he pulled $28 million last year. and got 40,000 votes.

doesn't mean shit.

Also, are you saying the troops across the worlds don't care? Do you believe they like the thought of continuing these wars/occupations as demostrated by the other canidates is suddenly going to ring true for them? I think not. I think they want to come HOME...

is there a draft that i am not aware of?

they volunteered for the position.

I could post a bunch of videos...

not surprising for a ron paul worshipper.

 

[UncleBuck]

Videos are a representation of an idea, for every veteran making those videos how many other veterans support those ideas? What do you think, 1; 10 100; 1,000; 10,000?

every time you post a ron paul video, a baby bunny is run over and killed by a riding lawnmower.

 

[londonfog]

Videos are a representation of an idea, for every veteran making those videos how many other veterans support those ideas? What do you think, 1; 10 100; 1,000; 10,000?

I'm a retired vet who does not support Ron Paul .... I actually know others that feel as I do...so wtf are you saying ????

 

[londonfog]

every time you post a ron paul video, a baby bunny is run over and killed by a riding lawnmower.

Ok I feel guilty for laughing...lol ...I like it but can't give a like for it...poor baby bunnies

 

[BendBrewer]

For the record, I don't dislike Ron Paul.

I am simply being realistic.

 

[londonfog]

I dislike some of his ideas.

 

[BendBrewer]

Yeah, I think he is too extreme on some of the issues. He sounds like he wants to take America back to the 1910's or what he calls it, his High School years. Not that he would actually do any of the things he says. We don't elect dictators in America and RP has no support in Congress. He wouldn't be able to do jack shit.

 

[UncleBuck]

Yeah, I think he is too extreme on some of the issues. He sounds like he wants to take America back to the 1910's or what he calls it, his High School years. Not that he would actually do any of the things he says. We don't elect dictators in America and RP has no support in Congress. He wouldn't be able to do jack shit.

he said something the other day about going back to 1900 in regards to fema. probably not a wise thing to say as a hurricane killed 6,000 of his fellow texans that year when it struck galveston.

 

[hazyintentions]

For the record, I don't dislike Ron Paul.

I am simply being realistic.

Understood, thank you for being clear,

and for the record I have the hope that American citizen can single handily put an man in office without influence from the corporate controlled military-industrial complex that is killing our country.

Some, like you, say that is too much to ask for, to embrace the idea that we should just accept that our choices are limited to a president that is killing our economy and a nut job, empty suit claiming to love freedom.

Sorry if I can hope for more than the status quo, I find people who have full faith in god funny in the same way you probably think it's funny that I have full faith in Ron Paul.

With that said, where's dukeanthony? It's not a party until he's here right??

he said something the other day about going back to 1900 in regards to fema. probably not a wise thing to say as a hurricane killed 6,000 of his fellow texans that year when it struck galveston.

Have you been in a serious hurricane?

If so I shouldn't have to argue this with you but if not you should know that FEMA does nothing, the most I've ever seen of FEMA is when they took over a coffee shop owners business during the aftermath of Floyd and told people to file paper work.

The National Guard and volunteer squads were the people helping pull people out of bad situations and rebuild, you'll never see a FEMA employee putting a pair of waders on to help someone unless there is a pot of gold on the other side.

 

[BendBrewer]

Actually, the economy has improved under Obama. Not fast enough for everyone but it has improved. Pick an indicator.

 

[newworldicon]

what you twits don't realize is that Ron Paul decided to run in a party that helped with the corrupted, lies and deception...and for what just to get his word spread...WTF ... compromise yourself just so people can hear your message...If he had a true message he would not need to run with the REpukes for his message should be able to stand alone... This is the information age...Too many ways to get your message heard...I can't wait to see what you Ron Paul fans say after he is ONCE AGAIN denied to run as the Republican candidate for the POTUS.

I could say the same of any democrat so you make no valid point, you also seem to overlook purposefully that he has helped along with so many others to create awareness of what your shitty slimey Government gets up to day to day. That alone should be enough to take your hat off to the guy regardless of whether you believe in his policies or not. I don't think any logical supporter of RP automatically assumes that he will get the nod for the republican nomination, that is a long shot and it is a shame, you may have your doubts of his policies and you are welcome to that but you cannot ignore his contribution to the cause.

NOW I ask you this......are you happy with Obama, will you vote for him again and why? And if not then why and who then will you vote for??

I also ask people who would want to vote for RP, if he does not get the go ahead then who indeed will you vote for?? You best start thinking about that pronto...

You guys keep trying so childishly to discredit the guy but you never state who you think is best and why??

 

[newworldicon]

Understood, thank you for being clear,

and for the record I have the hope that American citizen can single handily put an man in office without influence from the corporate controlled military-industrial complex that is killing our country.

Some, like you, say that is too much to ask for, to embrace the idea that we should just accept that our choices are limited to a president that is killing our economy and a nut job, empty suit claiming to love freedom.

Sorry if I can hope for more than the status quo, I find people who have full faith in god funny in the same way you probably think it's funny that I have full faith in Ron Paul.

With that said, where's dukeanthony? It's not a party until he's here right??




Have you been in a serious hurricane?

If so I shouldn't have to argue this with you but if not you should know that FEMA does nothing, the most I've ever seen of FEMA is when they took over a coffee shop owners business during the aftermath of Floyd and told people to file paper work.

The National Guard and volunteer squads were the people helping pull people out of bad situations and rebuild, you'll never see a FEMA employee putting a pair of waders on to help someone unless there is a pot of gold on the other side.

This is the burning question I have for all you Americans, if you think the take over of your Government by a rogue banking cartel/military complex is a load of BS then fine, keep thinking that but if you believe this then what are you guys doing to fight that, how does discrediting RP help that cause? How does arguing with each other help anything, I would see it as pointless to discuss any politics if it is in fact true that voting for either is the same thing.

This is not directed personally at you hazy, you just brought up an issue I wanted to pick up on..

 

[BendBrewer]

How about who I won't vote for.

I won't vote for anyone who has been unemployed since the last election. So Mitt is out.

I won't vote for an evangelical christian. So Bachmann, Perry, Santorum and Baptist Minister Herman Cain are out.

I won't vote for anyone who has stated they will appoint judges to the SC that will overturn Roe V Wade. So Ron Paul, Jon Hunstman and Newt Gingrich are out.

That leaves a guy named Gary Johnson who I know very little about and President Obama. The GOP voters are going to determine who I vote for and it looks like they are going to force me to vote for Obama which I'll do without concern.