What do modern day servicemen and veterans think of Ron Paul and the government?

[newworldicon]

Here's a question........lets imagine that Ron Paul does in fact win the republican nomination and does in fact go onto win the presidential election and becomes president......

What is the possibility of him getting assassinated early on into his term?

 

[londonfog]

If that were true the Obamabots wouldnt be working overtime to demean the man, Its obvious they are afraid of Ron Paul because an intelligent person wouldnt attack someone that offers no threat... On the other hand it would take a complete idiot to overlook Ron Paul if "Hope and Change" is what they were voting for back in 08'.

Ron Paul is pretty much being ignored by everyone except Ron Paul groupies

 

[londonfog]

Here's a question........lets imagine that Ron Paul does in fact win the republican nomination and does in fact go onto win the presidential election and becomes president......

What is the possibility of him getting assassinated early on into his term?

lets imagine that we all can fly..would we need aircrafts ???

 

[newworldicon]

lets imagine that we all can fly..would we need aircrafts ???

Thats up to you and your imagination, or lack thereof?? I have heard that pigs can fly so.....

 

[Mr Neutron]

I guess until I stop seeing all these damn Ron Paul threads, I will have to play the same damn song.. the guy has ZERO chance of winning the Republican nod, but you guys actually think he does..kinda stupid if you ask me... Paul had a better chance if he went independent not Republican...again DEAL WITH IT...

I don't think I've ever seen another candidate instill so much fear in people. There has always been mud slinging in campaigns but the sheer hatred brought about from the FEAR of this man is amazing.
OK, let us suppose that Dr Paul does not get elected as President and let us also suppose that he is not the republican nominee. What has he done? He has brought out into the light many problems and solutions that no other candidate would even consider talking about. Was there any talk about the Federal Reserve, non interventionist foreign policy, the immoral income tax, the Constitution or individual liberty before 2008?
Just look at what has been going on right here on riu. All this discussion has caused people to be exposed to a different way of looking at things.
You may think that if Dr Paul ran as an independent, he would have a better chance... a better chance of what? Never being heard at all? Other than Ross Perot, who was the last independent candidate to make any news on the campaign trail?
I don't expect those of you who are in fear of freedom and liberty to change your minds easily. You have years of bigotry and indoctrination to peel back before you can see the truth and some of you will never have the courage to do that. But that's OK, too. There is room in America for all kinds of crazy thinking, including yours and I'll defend your right to think the way you want... would you do the same?

 

[newworldicon]

I don't think I've ever seen another candidate instill so much fear in people. There has always been mud slinging in campaigns but the sheer hatred brought about from the FEAR of this man is amazing.
OK, let us suppose that Dr Paul does not get elected as President and let us also suppose that he is not the republican nominee. What has he done? He has brought out into the light many problems and solutions that no other candidate would even consider talking about. Was there any talk about the Federal Reserve, non interventionist foreign policy, the immoral income tax, the Constitution or individual liberty before 2008?
Just look at what has been going on right here on riu. All this discussion has caused people to be exposed to a different way of looking at things.
You may think that if Dr Paul ran as an independent, he would have a better chance... a better chance of what? Never being heard at all? Other than Ross Perot, who was the last independent candidate to make any news on the campaign trail?
I don't expect those of you who are in fear of freedom and liberty to change your minds easily. You have years of bigotry and indoctrination to peel back before you can see the truth and some of you will never have the courage to do that. But that's OK, too. There is room in America for all kinds of crazy thinking, including yours and I'll defend your right to think the way you want... would you do the same?

Excellent words Neutron, I have always thought that LondonCock was too afraid to face reality, another rationalist who is too afraid to acknowledge that everything he has thought in the past was corrupted by lies and deception.

It takes a man to admit his mistakes, a spineless mute who keeps arguing his corner for the sake of taking that position originally.

+REP.

 

[BendBrewer]

WASHINGTON — Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul, the congressman from the Houston area who opposes the Iraq war, has gotten more contributions than any other White House contender from donors identified as affiliated with the military.
According to a Houston Chronicle analysis of campaign records from January through September, Paul received $63,440 in donations from current military employees and several retired military personnel.
Democrat Barack Obama, another war critic, was second in military giving. The Illinois senator got $53,968 during the nine months.

Is that from 2008 or 2007?

 

[sync0s]

Is that from 2008 or 2007?

I think it is, but he is leading the charge so far as well.

Dr. Paul was able to produce $36,739.79 in donations from U.S. military personnel. His closest Republican competitor was Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain, who raised $6,223.
The complete breakdown can be found below (in alphabetical order):
- Rep. Michelle Bachmann: $2,550
- Herman Cain: $6,223
- Rep. Newt Gingrich: $1,025
- Gov. Gary Johnson: $0
- Rep. Ron Paul: $36,739.79
- Gov. Tim Pawlenty (dropped out of race): $250
- Gov. Mitt Romney: $5,000
- Sen. Rick Santorum: $250
*Texas Governor Rick Perry was not included in the tallying.”

Doesn't include Obama, though.

 

[BendBrewer]

Dr. Paul was able to produce $36,739.79

He blew $31,000.00 of that on his booth at the Iowa State Fair. Just to put that into perspective. Didn't even leave enough for the 4700 ballots that he bought. Just saying......

My old man ran the Operations for the 7th Air Force. He thinks Paul is off his rocker.

 

[hazyintentions]

Is that from 2008 or 2007?

07' I believe and that was when Obama was claiming he'd end the wars as well, therefore his contributions were more than likely based on him saying that.

He blew $31,000.00 of that on his booth at the Iowa State Fair. Just to put that into perspective. Didn't even leave enough for the 4700 ballots that he bought. Just saying......

My old man ran the Operations for the 7th Air Force. He thinks Paul is off his rocker.

Sure he bought $30 tickets for people, so did Bachmann and basically every other candidate at that event, what's your point?

His grassroots campaign raised 1.8 million in 24 hours a couple weeks after the poll, you and londonfog still convinced he has 0% chance at getting the nomination?

As for your old man, glad he is using his right to think what he wants, at least we still have that freedom.

 

[londonfog]

Excellent words Neutron, I have always thought that LondonCock was too afraid to face reality, another rationalist who is too afraid to acknowledge that everything he has thought in the past was corrupted by lies and deception.

It takes a man to admit his mistakes, a spineless mute who keeps arguing his corner for the sake of taking that position originally.

+REP.

what you twits don't realize is that Ron Paul decided to run in a party that helped with the corrupted, lies and deception...and for what just to get his word spread...WTF ... compromise yourself just so people can hear your message...If he had a true message he would not need to run with the REpukes for his message should be able to stand alone... This is the information age...Too many ways to get your message heard...I can't wait to see what you Ron Paul fans say after he is ONCE AGAIN denied to run as the Republican candidate for the POTUS.

 

[UncleBuck]

Sure he bought $30 tickets for people, so did Bachmann and basically every other candidate at that event, what's your point?

His grassroots campaign raised 1.8 million in 24 hours a couple weeks after the poll, you and londonfog still convinced he has 0% chance at getting the nomination?

As for your old man, glad he is using his right to think what he wants, at least we still have that freedom.

when he ran in 2008, ron paul raised something like $28 million overall.

he garnered about 40,000 votes.

that works out to about $700 per vote

what a revolution!

 

[londonfog]

when he ran in 2008, ron paul raised something like $28 million overall.

he garnered about 40,000 votes.

that works out to about $700 per vote

what a revolution!

The only revolution Ron Paul has is in the mind of the "Ron Paul Groupies"...

 

[BendBrewer]

Ron Paul doesn't have a chance in hell of getting the nomination. Not at all. I've seen this movie before. Twice. I know how it ends. Republican Establishment candidate wins. That's not Ron Paul. Enjoy the effort.

Remember, Republicans like military intervention. Why would they even think about electing Paul?

 

[UncleBuck]

The only revolution Ron Paul has is in the mind of the "Ron Paul Groupies"...

i have a revolution in my pants, and it eclipses ron paul's "revolution".

 

[hazyintentions]

when he ran in 2008, ron paul raised something like $28 million overall.

he garnered about 40,000 votes.

that works out to about $700 per vote

what a revolution!

Rubbing salt in a 4 year wound proves nothing.
You say that like every single American knew all of his beliefs, policies, and ideals and decided they didn't wanna vote for him. Maybe that is what you want to believe but I haven't lost faith in America quite yet, so keep on saying the same shit over and over without bringing anything that could be used in an adult conversation.

Hey remember how Ron Paul was quote "fading away...." ? You did say that didn't you?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

HIs polling numbers are only going up there bud, maybe you need to consult the definition of "fading"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_presidential_primary-1581.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

Paul vs. Obama average spread of 4.3% ,lastest two polls have a spread of +2% and +1% respectively. Only one other candidate is beating that average, Romney.

 

[BendBrewer]

But it is the GOP Primary that Paul has no shot of winning. I am not the only one that has repeatedly mentioned that around here. Your problem is not with Obama and the General Election. Your problem is winning the GOP Primary and RP has yet to win a single State Contest in 2 different elections. NOT A ONE.

I highly doubt he wins a single state this time around either. He won't even win his own State. How does this equal a Ron Paul victory in your mind? What is so different about RP this time around that all of a sudden, people who have never voted for him the first two times he ran for office are going to elect him in state after state around this country? Why do you think people are going to do that?

The question is, who are these RP supporters going to support in the General Election when Paul is not an option? Because that is the reality that is headed your way. And when that happens, I expect you to start a thread titled "YOU TOLD ME SO"

Deal?

 

[UncleBuck]

Rubbing salt in a 4 year wound proves nothing.
You say that like every single American knew all of his beliefs, policies, and ideals and decided they didn't wanna vote for him. Maybe that is what you want to believe but I haven't lost faith in America quite yet, so keep on saying the same shit over and over without bringing anything that could be used in an adult conversation.

Hey remember how Ron Paul was quote "fading away...." ? You did say that didn't you?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html

HIs polling numbers are only going up there bud, maybe you need to consult the definition of "fading"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_presidential_primary-1581.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html

Paul vs. Obama average spread of 4.3% ,lastest two polls have a spread of +2% and +1% respectively. Only one other candidate is beating that average, Romney.

you're right, realclear shows him with the best chance. too bad he will never get the nod

and although his polling is up from 7% or so to 8% or so (congrats!), he is still in 5th place and trailing the leaders by substantial margins. no one cares about him or takes him seriously. he has a lot of cultists that worship at The Altar of Paul, but having a ridiculous number of threads on pot growing sites does not equal the votes it will take to get the nod.

have fun dealing with that.

 

[londonfog]

But it is the GOP Primary that Paul has no shot of winning. I am not the only one that has repeatedly mentioned that around here. Your problem is not with Obama and the General Election. Your problem is winning the GOP Primary and RP has yet to win a single State Contest in 2 different elections. NOT A ONE.

I highly doubt he wins a single state this time around either. He won't even win his own State. How does this equal a Ron Paul victory in your mind? What is so different about RP this time around that all of a sudden, people who have never voted for him the first two times he ran for office are going to elect him in state after state around this country? Why do you think people are going to do that?

The question is, who are these RP supporters going to support in the General Election when Paul is not an option? Because that is the reality that is headed your way. And when that happens, I expect you to start a thread titled "YOU TOLD ME SO"

Deal?

Same thing I keep telling these guys... I don't think they get it

 

[BendBrewer]

Looks like Paul slipped a lot lately to me. He lost 8 points. More than any other candidate during this time. Looks like the Texans are going with the Gov.

ORC for CNN, (8/24-25, Republicans, 8/5-7 in parentheses):
Rick Perry: 32 (1
Mitt Romney: 18 (23)
Michele Bachmann: 12 (9)
Newt Gingrich: 7 (
Ron Paul: 6 (14)
Herman Cain: 3 (5)
Gary Johnson: 2 (n/a)
Jon Huntsman: 1 (5)
Rick Santorum: 1 (2)
Thad McCotter: 1 (n/a)