Professor Marijuana's 45 Day Grow Q & A

reverof said:
wow... the reason this forum is turning to sh*t... people just have to bash and call people liars and push and push and push.... no point in flaming and trolling.

regardless of what any of you haters have to say, majority of his growing information is right on, and very helpful, if we could keep it to that then it would be great.
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You're right reverof, I'm sorry for getting worked up. When we get close we'll get in contact and I'll be happy to give you a tour. Christ you start becoming them after a while. Not who I am, please forgive me.
 
Please band patlpp all his accusations are irrealvent! Hey Prof mj So what you keep your temps at with co2 and humid? Have you ever grown a stativa SOG style? How often do you harvest? Im trying to achieve Al b fuct every 2 weeks did you read that thread? I have 1600 watts well my 1k isnt set up yet due to finace I need a750cfm inline fan to exhaust both the 600watt and the 1kwatt but when I do I was thinking to put my 600watt under the clones from 0-4 weeks then 4-8 week clones under the 1k you think thats ok? And what about the inline fan you think thats enough cfm for the 1600watt together? I dont have any co2 I dont have that luxury yet so what should I keep the temps at and humid? Do you use h202 or perxiode for your plants? If you dont you must be good because that stuff works good for my ladies I like hydogen perxiode better tho. Thanks for your info
 
Professor Marijuana said:
I appreciate what you're saying and I'm going to ignore them here out. But it's different when it's you that is the focus, what happens is just what you're saying "I don't care what you did" From where I sit it starts to feel like they're right. People start buying part of their shit. I'm not saying you but damnit I'm a man with integrity and am proud of things I've done. I've had an amazing life and have done many remarkable things. I have no reason to come here and say anything that is true. I think it's fairly easy to see I get plenty of attention from many sources both public and private, there just isn't anything in it for me. I didn't come here boasting about anything but growing which I do as well as anyone and it's not a secret. I have had a shitload of media coverage backing me. I don't understand why these people give a damn. If you want to get down to the basics, all they are doing is causing damage. How can it be bad for someone like myself to come spend time sharing? Do they want to advance growing or not? Are they making this a better place in anyway or are they making it lesser? What is their contribution? I've asked to level the field and have them come forward and make themselves known and yet these morally rightous people refuse to even acknowledge me asking let alone do it. If a person wants to call you a liar but isn't willing to say who it is they are what does that say about them? Flat out I'll call it chicken shit. You want to challenge a mans integrety then do it like a man. I see it as the cowardous actions of person who doesn't want things to be fair. It's how terrorist work, cause harm without taking responsabilty. CHICKEN SHIT. Back to growing lol thanks for hanging in there, back to business
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Oh I belive you bro I would love to hear stories from the cool shit you did back in the days just gives me ideas and goals but now im really interested in growing I really want to achieve at least half your shit bro your shit is ligit I just started moving shit around and my ladies already loving it lol But if you can start a little conversation about other shit too that you think we might not know, and I will think of more things to ask after all thats why were here for right too learn to grow.
 
don2009 said:
Please band patlpp all his accusations are irrealvent! Hey Prof mj So what you keep your temps at with co2 and humid? Have you ever grown a stativa SOG style? How often do you harvest? Im trying to achieve Al b fuct every 2 weeks did you read that thread? I have 1600 watts well my 1k isnt set up yet due to finace I need a750cfm inline fan to exhaust both the 600watt and the 1kwatt but when I do I was thinking to put my 600watt under the clones from 0-4 weeks then 4-8 week clones under the 1k you think thats ok? And what about the inline fan you think thats enough cfm for the 1600watt together? I dont have any co2 I dont have that luxury yet so what should I keep the temps at and humid? Do you use h202 or perxiode for your plants? If you dont you must be good because that stuff works good for my ladies I like hydogen perxiode better tho. Thanks for your info
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What a waste. Back to constructive things. In a perfect world I find 85 degrees and 75% relative humidity nice. With supplimental C02 you can raise temps as much as ten degrees, the bud bowl buds were in a very hot room, as high as 105 degrees, it was a trade off for light, results speak for themself. I have different rooms for different strains, 12 systems is typical. In a pure indica room we have two harvest a week. When a new room comes on line we start grows at different times to start the harvest cycle. Pure indica we can start two systems a week for 6 weeks. when we have all the systems up we are ready for our first crops. It is really cool when you have crops coming in all the time, work is spread out and inventory is always fresh and full. Have done many sativa grows, always have some going, a twelve week flower means a crop every week. 600 w for clones after they have popped and hardend off? I have used peroxide but don't as a general rule, don't need too. It can also be very dangerous if you're using a strong solution. doesn't take much to wipe out an entire crop if you mess up measurements.
 
Professor Marijuana said:
What a waste. Back to constructive things. In a perfect world I find 85 degrees and 75% relative humidity nice. With supplimental C02 you can raise temps as much as ten degrees, the bud bowl buds were in a very hot room, as high as 105 degrees, it was a trade off for light, results speak for themself. I have different rooms for different strains, 12 systems is typical. In a pure indica room we have two harvest a week. When a new room comes on line we start grows at different times to start the harvest cycle. Pure indica we can start two systems a week for 6 weeks. when we have all the systems up we are ready for our first crops. It is really cool when you have crops coming in all the time, work is spread out and inventory is always fresh and full. Have done many sativa grows, always have some going, a twelve week flower means a crop every week. 600 w for clones after they have popped and hardend off? I have used peroxide but don't as a general rule, don't need too. It can also be very dangerous if you're using a strong solution. doesn't take much to wipe out an entire crop if you mess up measurements.
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Hey what you mean about the 600watt for clones after they popped and harden off Im talikng about when they are in flower0-4 weeks about 40 clones 0-4 weeks old 20 in a 2x4 and another 20 on a 2x4 2-4wks old under a 600watt and the 1000watt under 2 2x4 4-8 wks you think thats ok what should I keep my temps and humid I try to keep them 78dg and humid at 40% no co2 and what do you keep your water temps? If I can do right what you think I can yield with the equipment I got now? What about the inline fan you think 750cfm is alright? Thanks bro
 
Professor, do you grow any strains that are not 45 day bloomers?
What kind of yields do you get from some common strains, do you grow anything from the TGA lineup ( these are easy to buy in CO).
Please post some pics of your plants at varying stages of growth. I would love to see what your idea of a perfectly fed/ lighted plant looks like.
What ratio of NPK do you use?
 
Mrfootball420 said:
i have seen five pound plants off of one light. but you you gotta grow trees with aero or dwc etc. this aint no ebb and flow or drip system with cubes were talking here.

i have some questions for the proffesor myself and i posted something similar in another thread but it went unanswered. i will try it here because i, like you, am very skeptical of his claims.

you say you can pull 11lbs out of 36 sq ft? im looking at your plants here and they are very nice but they certainly are not 1lb plants or half pound plants. they look like a solid qp plant. and it looks as if each plant is about 2 ft apart, is that a fair guess? im just doing some quick figures here and by my count you are getting about 6 oz maximum from 4 sq ft from looking at the picture. that comes out to roughly 54 oz per 36 sq ft which is almost 3.5 lbs. but you are claiming triple that yeild. so you are telling me that you are getting 18 oz per 2x2 area? im sorry bro i just dont see it.

i have some other questions too...

most strains take at least 8 weeks to fully flower and some upto 12 weeks. what kind of seeds do you use to accomplish this result? only auto flowers can ripen that quicky(like lowryder) and thats all genetics and they only get upto 45 grms a plant. those also require another 15-20 day seedling stage to obtain those results. correct me if im wrong, but what im reading is that you can take any pure indica strain and flower it in 45 days? it can take upto 2 weeks for a plant to even show flowers.


here is a strain that is engineered to flower in 45 days

AVERAGE FLOWERING TIME

Indoors: 40-45 days (after a 15-20 day seedling stage)
Outdoors: Ripens approximately 60 days after seed is sown.
Note: 100% of plants display the auto-flowering genotype.

AVERAGE HEIGHT

Average Lowryder height is 12 inches. Minimum: 5 inches. Maximum 16 inches. Lowryder height is very light-dependent, with slight phenotype variations.

LOWRYDER YIELD

Depending on light and other factors, Lowryder yields up to 45 grams.


id like to know how you are in 45 days, getting double what they are from an indica strain that isnt even an auto flower?

im not trying to start trouble, i just really want to know how you are accomplishing these yields?

i look forward to your response, thank you.
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The numbers sound phenomenal, so we are all going to question. But i think i did read that he was using clones which require no veg period. Please correct me if im wrong.
 
Prof, last time my lights were as close as you say they need to be the buds actually looked burnt. Like weird yellowing, leafs got sun burnt too. So now I stick to about 12" away with my xxxl''s without problems, I thought as close as possible because I have no heat due to the awesome 8" xxxl's, but no I had the actual flowers yellowing only on the very top. The whole canopy did it. Everything below the top buds was just fine. It had to be light bleach. How do you avoid light bleach with your lights 4" away?
 
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Prof, last time my lights were as close as you say they need to be the buds actually looked burnt. Like weird yellowing, leafs got sun burnt too. So now I stick to about 12" away with my xxxl''s without problems, I thought as close as possible because I have no heat due to the awesome 8" xxxl's, but no I had the actual flowers yellowing only on the very top. The whole canopy did it. Everything below the top buds was just fine. It had to be light bleach. How do you avoid light bleach with your lights 4" away?
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I have had this issue before, do you have a fan on your reflector? I have an 6" Xtrasun with glass with the fan it drops temps close to 7-10 degrees. Right now im getting bleaching on the flowers closest to the light even with the fan...im curious to know!
 
FYI; the way I do this is to go back to where I left off and take em one at a time. Questions that have been answered I'll say so. If you can't find it say so and ask again. I'll try to answer as many as I have time for. Prof Mj
 
don2009 said:
Hey what you mean about the 600watt for clones after they popped and harden off Im talikng about when they are in flower0-4 weeks about 40 clones 0-4 weeks old 20 in a 2x4 and another 20 on a 2x4 2-4wks old under a 600watt and the 1000watt under 2 2x4 4-8 wks you think thats ok what should I keep my temps and humid I try to keep them 78dg and humid at 40% no co2 and what do you keep your water temps? If I can do right what you think I can yield with the equipment I got now? What about the inline fan you think 750cfm is alright? Thanks bro
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Clones I keep under T-5's until they pop and have transitioned from the clone environment into the medium I am going to grow them in. I go from T-5's to being under HID's but do so slowly so I don't shock them.

# things that you can have a big inpact on yield from the start are, the strain. Indica's will flower in at least half the time and will yield at least twice as much. I love Sativa's though so I always have them going. 2; the space for the root ball to develop, the plant is a copy above ground as it is below. This is important, forget the crap in bottles that icrease only the money in the pocket of the seller. Few have any significant impact on yield, you will be far better off paying attention to what's going on below the surface. Make sure your girls have plenty of space for roots. Example, those who put cubes in an ebb n flo would have a significant increase in yield by doing nothing more than putting a slab of rockwool under the cubes. That's it, just more root space will do more then anything else you can add later. 3; big surprise LIGHT, we seeing a theme here? lol LIGHT, LIGHT, AND MORE LIGHT. Somebody noticed that the buds in the "sweet spot" of their light were better than the rest. Same strain, same plant, same grow system, same food, temps, c02, venting, everything. Only difference is the LIGHT. Single biggest thing you can do to increase yield. I promise all of you, if you get anal about lighting and set the distance EVERY DAY, you will notice the increas the very first grow. It is well worth the effort, get them as close as you can without burning them and adjust them daily. Anything you can do to have your light even an inch closer will be worth the effort.

As far as temps and humidity. 85 degrees and 60% humidity is like Disneyland for the girls. I have grown in temps as high as 105 with added C02 and humidity over 80%. Keep the air moving so mold doesn't form. MITES DON'T LIKE HUMIDITY. You can kill off mite infestations with high humidity if you manage it correctly.
 
well i got to say wow what am i doing wrong i guess instead of vegging for min 2 - 5 weeks you will get better yields from a clone :)) if that isnt the most ridiculious thing i ever herd of i dont know what is and to get 11 pounds with only 2000 watts hahahaha
IMO if your getting them kinda of yields you should be in hightimes you surpassed everyone hell i can realisticly say i average 1136 dry grams per 1000 watt and by the way i run in excess of 16,000 watts in my grow rooms with over 700 plants in all stages

To summerise this technique, it is a style of growing that doesn't require a vegging period. Stable clones of the same strain are placed into 36 hours of darkness and go directly into a 12/12 light routine, or in my case 12:15 dark and 11:45 light. In my comercial facilities all our lights are put on a post that turns the entire lighting bank on and off together. In smaller grow setups where 2, 3, or 4 lights might be on individual timers I have seen where one timer gets bumped ar runs a little faster/slower then the rest and before you know it you only have eleven and a half hours of dark. Following my way allows for a bit of fudge room.

They remain in flower the entire time require to mature. In the case of a pure indica this can be as fast as 43 days from the start of 12/12 until harvest. The fastest strain for me was 43 days, this was also the highest yielding strain producing over 11 lbs of medical grade cannabis in approximately 36 sq ft under 2,000 WATTS HPS.

pS: your looking @ pure afganistan Indica hanks to many of the service military personal stationed in afganistan :))
 

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burrr said:
Professor, do you grow any strains that are not 45 day bloomers?
What kind of yields do you get from some common strains, do you grow anything from the TGA lineup ( these are easy to buy in CO).
Please post some pics of your plants at varying stages of growth. I would love to see what your idea of a perfectly fed/ lighted plant looks like.
What ratio of NPK do you use?
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In CO a dispensary must grow 70% of everything it sells so yes, we grow everything from pure indica's to pure sativa's and everything inbetween. The way I like to run our facilities is to grow the same or the same percentage I/S so the flowering period is consistant. In a standard 12 system facility we grow "like" genetics at the same time. That way we can stagger harvest to spread the work out evenly. It also makes prepping clones to be ready easier, everything goes like clock work that way.

As I stated before, and will certainly be the fuel for more trashing from those who can't wrap their brains around it, I unfortunately have contractual limitations as to what I can say and post. It is why I don't do more of this type of help. To be honest I am riding a fine line already with what I have offered to do. I offered to walk somebody through my technique, FREE, if THEY, take and post the pics. I can't do it, I'm sorry. One of the pic's I posted shows a 2 system 120 plant grow that is 60 days in from two inch clones. In fact it is the diesel I was speaking of. I showed that pic because it's my private grow in my garage. I'll see if there are a couple more I can post.

It would make my life much easier if I just posted a straight step by step manual. If you look you'll see I often try to set up a question for somebody to ask and then have no issues providing specific info to specific questions. Asking, "can you explain how you're technique works" is to general and would require hours to sit and answer. I'm really trying my best here and am willing to answer anything that's asked. Just needs to be specific and in junks I can deal with, If someone were to spend a minute and ask questions step by step they would get everything they wanted. If it were me I might start with some theories on how a grow room were constructed, start with germination and sexing, ask about mothers, cloning, growing, harvesting, manicuring, and drying, and packaging(hint). I'm sorry I can't just download a dvd to everyone, if I could I would. Last time I gave frre seminar tickets to anyone(even those trashing me) who asked. I hope you understand my spot. I'm trying man
 
burrr said:
That is true, everytime I've seen someone talk about huge yields the haters come a runnin. I remember a thread about a guy getting 28 oz off of one plant, he even had pics, but he haters still hated. I'm looking forward to being the guy that's hated for getting 2 gpw outa my 600 ;)
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Perhaps it is just the talk of a proud father but look at the avatar. They are as nice as any I have ever seen, let a hater show them up. Next it will be a forgery on photoshop or some damned thing. If I had come on and described those buds with no photo how long would it have taken for them to call me a liar? Can any of them grow those buds? I'm sorry but they are impressive no matter who you are, go back through HighTimes since they were a quarterly and find a more impressive bud. Of course it's a lie to them if I say I can grow ten pounds like that, it's a lie because they can't. Is it really that impossible to you that a person can take a pure indica clone, flower it under ideal conditions, with the very best of everything, until it's maturity and produce 3 ounces of bud? Does that really sound all that impossible to you coming from the guy who grew the monsters in that picture? How big of a cola have you ever seen? Take that and multiply by 60. To be honest I don't see why it's so damned unbelievable to some. I have no doubt that I will produce 15 lbs in the next year or two, no doubt in my mind. In fact it is my current goal, when the disbelievers are producing ten lbs they will call me a liar when I say I'm yielding 15, as a grower it's a beautiful thing seing their faces in the rearview mirror. lol
 
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