It's Class Warfare Alright.

[txpete77]

democracy is based on the idea that we do what the majority of people want

Drink your fucking hemlock...

Democracy is a fancy word for mob rule, and was used to keep slavery legal until the Civil War. A government based on democracy will eventually consume individual rights.

 

[redivider]

by "sacrifice" you mean, govt douchenozzle coming into my house, or bank account, to take more of what i earn?

is that what you mean by "sacrifice".

ummm NO....i dont think thats what the forefathers had in mind.

of course not. the forefathers lived in a time where slavery was considered legal. but guess what, TIMES CHANGE.

if we still lived under the ideals of the forefathers there would be NO middle class, and we'd still look a lot like our neighbors to the south.

and if you would be so kind to enlighten us with how you know what the forefathers had in mind. voodoo???

 

[txpete77]

It's a good thing for our argument that you're absolutely WRONG, this country was never "founded as a democracy" and never will be a democracy. Sorry, try again.

You're right in that we were never a democracy, but don't think that we won't become one with the current powers at play.

 

[redivider]

Koch-backed group's fake eviction notices rile up Detroit

By Stephanie Condon Topics Economy ,State Politics

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Residents in a Detroit neighborhood received a scare this week when they found what appeared to be eviction notices on their doors. The flyers, however, turned out to be political pamphlets in opposition to the construction of a controversial new bridge.
The fake eviction notices were posted by a local chapter of Americans for Prosperity, the conservative political advocacy group backed by Charles and David Koch, the billionaire brothers who run Koch Industries and are longtime libertarians. Local political leaders and columnists are condemning the group for scaring residents -- whose homes sit in the epicenter of the nation's foreclosure crisis -- while refusing to disclose which of its corporate backers are funding the flyers.
At the center of the flyer in question, in large print, reads: "Eviction Notice." In medium print, the top of the flyer reads, "This property is subject to seizure by the Michigan Department of Transportation." Only in small print does the flyer say the property in question could be seized if legislation approving the bridge is passed.
Michigan's Republican Gov. Rick Snyder supports the bridge construction, as did his Democratic predecessor Jennifer Granholm. The bridge would link Detroit to Canada, and Canada has agreed to fund a loan for its construction. So far its construction has failed to receive state legislative support, in part because of lobbying, particularly from private bridge company Ambassador Bridge, the Michigan Messenger reports.
Calling American for Prosperity's fake eviction notices "emotional terrorism," Detroit Free Press editorial editor Stephen Henderson points out that if the bridge project were approved, no one would be technically "evicted" -- the law requires that any land acquisition for such a project come with remuneration, and land owners in areas with depressed home values can even end up better off.
Still, the fake eviction notices had residents on edge. Resident Steve Toth told the Free Press his elderly mother saw the flyer and "damn near keeled over," while one of his neighbors was "beside himself."
Scott Hagerstrom, American for Prosperity's Michigan state director, told the Free Press the group had no apologies for the flyer.
"It was meant to startle people," he said. "We really wanted people to take notice. This is the time that their opinions need to be heard. We wanted people to read it."
State Rep. Rashida Tlaib reportedly said the flyers created "chaos" among her constituents. State Sen. Coleman Young II, whose name was on the flyer as the politician to contact about the bridge, called the flyer "slime-ball, gutter politics."
"Americans for Prosperity has linked arms with Ambassador Bridge Owner Matty Moroun in order to preserve the monopoly Moroun enjoys now," Henderson wrote.
The Detroit International Bridge Co. -- the operating arm of Ambassador Bridge -- released a statement saying it had nothing to do with the flyers, even though it has been lobbying heavily against the bridge.
"Let me be clear that the Detroit International Bridge Co. had nothing to do with the bogus eviction notices posted at homes in southwest Detroit yesterday," the company's president Dan Stamper said in a statement. "Although we disagree with plans for a bridge that would disrupt the neighborhood and displace residents, we would never distribute misleading information to disturb or upset residents."
Still, it's impossible to know who is behind the Americans for Prosperity campaign since recent developments in campaign finance, including the Supreme Court's 2010 Citizens United decision, allow such groups to keep its donors private.

yay for the rich!!!


this idea that this country will pick itself up when the rich are doing good enough is a fallacy... after the rich have decimated public education, the public is STUPID enough to believe this lie.

 

[Balzac89]

Raising taxes creates job. Wheres the job growth the last ten years

 

[dirtysnowball]

oh yes lets raise taxes on the rich that will surely create income... OH wait whats this: 30% of USA companies and their jobs just left to go to overseas to Switzerland where taxes are low.

we need A PLAN, a plan in writting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wtf obama stop going on vacation im tired of this top romen diet wtf!!!!!!!! i applied at the local store guess who else applied next to me, a college graduate with a masters, im screwd

 

[Balzac89]

oh yes lets raise taxes on the rich that will surely create income... OH wait whats this: 30% of USA companies and their jobs just left to go to overseas to Switzerland where taxes are low.

we need A PLAN, a plan in writting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wtf obama stop going on vacation im tired of this top romen diet wtf!!!!!!!! i applied at the local store guess who else applied next to me, a college graduate with a masters, im screwd

Don't forget hes black too.

 

[Balzac89]

Warren Buffet said that Clinton tax increases did more for economy than Bush tax cuts.

 

[Balzac89]

Instead of calling it tax cuts they should call them Debt increases.

 

[dukeanthony]

oh yes lets raise taxes on the rich that will surely create income... OH wait whats this: 30% of USA companies and their jobs just left to go to overseas to Switzerland where taxes are low.

we need A PLAN, a plan in writting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wtf obama stop going on vacation im tired of this top romen diet wtf!!!!!!!! i applied at the local store guess who else applied next to me, a college graduate with a masters, im screwd

Its absolutly Obamas fault that the housing crisis destroyed our economy in 2007-2008
Yeah thats it

BTW didnt the tea baggers get in on job creation promises? Where are the jobs?
And if tax cuts mean more jobs and the Bush tax cuts are still in effect. Where are the fucking jobs?

 

[dirtysnowball]

and bro my mo just lost her house last week, and my dad lost his a couple years ago. this is not some hoax wtf idk what your smoking who ever said this was some ind of scare. i cant go to college for a degree now, i can only go for a one class certificate thing and start working cuz i gotta pay some rent now, and i gotta help my dad and my mom now. im doing this so my little sister can go to college and not follow my (forced)foot steps

 

[dukeanthony]

This is the REpublican plan
Home Version:
Max out the credit card on firearms and hunting trips
Get the bill, blame the wife
Announce you need to cut the familys budget. Not any of your stuff Just the wife and kids.
Now take a lower paying job

Are your bills getting paid off?
No?
Then cut more. Not your spending of course. But the Wife and kids.
Now quit your job all together

Are your bills getting paid yet?

 

[dirtysnowball]

obama gave another speech yesterday and he didnt mention his obama care but he did say he was going to extend those taxe cuts.
also here is a quote from are vacationing know it all

Here are Obama’s thoughts on the debt limit in 2006, when he voted against increasing the ceiling:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
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[dukeanthony]

and bro my mo just lost her house last week, and my dad lost his a couple years ago. this is not some hoax wtf idk what your smoking who ever said this was some ind of scare. i cant go to college for a degree now, i can only go for a one class certificate thing and start working cuz i gotta pay some rent now, and i gotta help my dad and my mom now. im doing this so my little sister can go to college and not follow my (forced)foot steps

Welcome to the world of Adults

 

[Balzac89]

That would be Bush's Deregulation of the market. Who needs regulations, there is no way private industry would manipulate the market to make more money.

 

[dirtysnowball]

i know many well off buisness owners and ever since obamas taxes on any one making more than $250,000 they stopped hiring, even me their family friend! some have closed.

 

[dirtysnowball]

2 years ago is late 2009 not late 2007 jeez.

 

[Balzac89]

Things were alittle different when he said that, we weren't in a major recession govt has to spend money to keep us from sinking when private industry can't create jobs.

Everything seems so clear cut idk why people Blame Obama when he is the President he has basicaly no power. It is the electorate that votes on everything not him. He does hold veto though.

 

[dukeanthony]

Here are Obama’s thoughts on the debt limit in 2006, when he voted against increasing the ceiling:

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

I LOVE THIS QUOTE. OBAMA WAS RIGHT WHEN HE SAID IT THE 6TH TIME BUSH ASKED FOR A DEBT CEILING INCREASE DURING A TIME WHEN UNEMPLOYMENT WAS 4.7%
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[Balzac89]

i know many well off buisness owners and ever since obamas taxes on any one making more than $250,000 they stopped hiring, even me their family friend! some have closed.

I doubt taxes are the sole reason, More like shitty economy no work guy.