LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

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lymebrain

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hi prof you said you were going to trial some new lights ? Will you share what these are. Where I live I can't get some of the lights you recommend so some new lights may help. I am very close to needing to flower some plants and will need to go hps if I can't get some better T5's.

What tent are you getting ? I was thinking of getting a Secret Jardin MII DR150 any thoughts ? What did you throw out and why ? What would you go with in such a tent ?

many thanks, ignore the haters :)
 
pr0fesseur

pr0fesseur

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Well since some of these lights are made in europe the Fiji purps can be had anywhere .. i would try to get those... im looking into T5 Led tubes.. still trying to source them... so hang tight.
I cant imagine not being able to get these lights.. there @ any Aquarium store.. if not they will order them for you!
as long as you get actinics and some of the bulbs i mention your going in the right direction... EBAY!! spend the cash and import them if you have to.. buy 6 or 8 @ a time...
 
hyroot

hyroot

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pr0fesseur said:
Well since some of these lights are made in europe the Fiji purps can be had anywhere .. i would try to get those... im looking into T5 Led tubes.. still trying to source them... so hang tight.
I cant imagine not being able to get these lights.. there @ any Aquarium store.. if not they will order them for you!
as long as you get actinics and some of the bulbs i mention your going in the right direction... EBAY!! spend the cash and import them if you have to.. buy 6 or 8 @ a time...
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they have the agro led tubes T8 in the sunlight supply catalog for $79.95 per bulb .red (288 led's), white/blue(144 white/ 144 blue led's) bulbs are 22 watt

a little expensive hmmm!
 
pr0fesseur

pr0fesseur

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Well seeing as im trying to get some 660nm red t5 led tubes.. i dont know why anyone hasnt thought of them yet!
 
hyroot

hyroot

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they also have fixtures that run t5 fluoro and t8 led on same fixture for $229.95 for 4ft 8 bulb the led t8 8 bulb fixture is $189
 
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lymebrain

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It's the UVLs I'm having trouble getting.

A mixture of KZ FIJI PURPLE and ATI PURPLE PLUS would seem to be one possible solution ?

Any thoughts on tents?
 
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novice11

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Hello pr0fesseur -

I just bit the bullet and bought 3 Fuji's and 1 Red Sun for my 8 bulb SunBlaze. I held back on the rest as I am in bloom and don't need the Blue bulbs now. I held back on the other 3 Red Suns due to your previous teaser note about new bulbs and more resin. So I'm halfway there. They should be here and installed on Monday 8/22. (The other red 2700K bulbs are Spectrums, the same brand as the Blue bulbs that came with the SunBlaze).
 
hyroot

hyroot

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pr0fesseur said:
t5 produces double the light t8 does not worth it...
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I know, I was just throwing that out there. i did some google searches and all I could find for t5 red led was knock offs from china and india. all they would give is the lux.
 
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novice11

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pr0fesseur said:
http://www.uvlco.com/ theyve always been uv lighting company
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Okay, but you said you use...."My Bulbs. UVL Red sun 630nm; UVL 454nm; UVL Super Actinic @ 420nm; ATI Pro Color 660nm; KorallenZucht Fuji Purple 630 & 440nm", but they are UV brand on the aquarium specialty website, I found that a bit confusing as I was looking for UVL. I was a bit concerned that I was getting the wrong ones.

Will the 3 Fuji bulbs have an effect on their own?
 
pr0fesseur

pr0fesseur

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novice11 said:
Okay, but you said you use...."My Bulbs. UVL Red sun 630nm; UVL 454nm; UVL Super Actinic @ 420nm; ATI Pro Color 660nm; KorallenZucht Fuji Purple 630 & 440nm", but they are UV brand on the aquarium specialty website, I found that a bit confusing as I was looking for UVL. I was a bit concerned that I was getting the wrong ones.

Will the 3 Fuji bulbs have an effect on their own?
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Ya the uv Lighting comapny bulbs are listed as UVL because UV will get you blacklights!
The y should be good as a base... but like i said before @ least get one blue plus/super blue in the mix... actinics are optimal for growth!
 
pr0fesseur

pr0fesseur

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There is no experimentation to make any assumption on that topic. Unfortunately no one but me is using this method full time... I have no interest in comparisons and discourage them in my thread.. Comparisons will start flaming.. and discourage actual functional conversation.
If you feel like doing a comparison i will help you with all i can offer...
My part is to do a proof of concept if you will.. I have invested a ton of time just trying to proove my method is viable and such an experiment to test HPS vs T5 would take 3 grows and @ least 3 strains to be a fair comparison. a baseline test cfl or t5, a test of my t5 and a hps test.
any other method would be meaningless as you cant proove your hypothesis on 1 side by side grow.... anyone who does is just blowing smoke... LOL~!
i dont have the funds for that....
 
hyroot

hyroot

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pr0fesseur said:
There is no experimentation to make any assumption on that topic. Unfortunately no one but me is using this method full time... I have no interest in comparisons and discourage them in my thread.. Comparisons will start flaming.. and discourage actual functional conversation.
If you feel like doing a comparison i will help you with all i can offer...
My part is to do a proof of concept if you will.. I have invested a ton of time just trying to proove my method is viable and such an experiment to test HPS vs T5 would take 3 grows and @ least 3 strains to be a fair comparison. a baseline test cfl or t5, a test of my t5 and a hps test.
any other method would be meaningless as you cant proove your hypothesis on 1 side by side grow.... anyone who does is just blowing smoke... LOL~!
i dont have the funds for that....
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how did yours come out? are they dry and cured yet.
 
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salvador60

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it's refreshing to find some people that see the science smacking them in the face too. I spent ten years selling the aquarium lightings and have been wondering why no one is talking about using these bulbs. most people tell me i'm crazy and aquarium bulbs won't work because I'm asking them questions they don't know the answers to. i always used 10K/420 actinic 50/50 PC bulbs for my veg and had good results in the past. I want to add some actinic into the mix for next veg cycle and start playing with different bulbs. Aquaticlife has a line of bulbs I've used in the past for reef and aquatic plants. I am by no means a rep. Just a satisfied customer. They make a 10K, 420/460 nm, 460/420 nm, 6000k and a roseate 650 nm bulb. If your having trouble finding red, their 650nm is worth looking at.
the link is for the actinic bulbs
http://www.aquaticlife.com/products2/337#1
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