So I Turn On The TV

Cool, school work and kids . . . You're a patient woman. I'm
just up here hiding in the mountains on the pot farm.
 
Johnnyorganic said:
Devil's advocate here.

As long as no fraud is being committed, it's perfectly legal.

First Amendment, folks.

If you disagree with televangelists, turn off the damn television. Better yet, get rid of it.

My Gram, R.I.P., fell for a similar thing, but it was Reader's Digest.

They had her convinced she would win some hellacious jackpot if she would only buy one more piece of crap.

We never did discover exactly how much money she threw away.

Dad finally had to step in and take over her finances, put her on an allowance, and threaten legal action if the company tried to contact her in any form. It worked. But she never stopped believing the entire scam was on the up and up.
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Did you watch the commercial? It claims "Supernaturally erase your debt!!". How much more fraudulent could you possibly be?
 
"Supernaturally erase your debt!!" its only fraudulent when they erase your debt Lucky for you i can do it for real & for the small fee of 30 bucks :p
 
guy incognito said:
Did you watch the commercial? It claims "Supernaturally erase your debt!!". How much more fraudulent could you possibly be?
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The question is: Did YOU watch it? If so, were you paying attention?

They are offering it for FREE.

Call the toll-free number, sit through a bullshit prayer, then endure a hard-press for a DONATION, politely decline, then wait 4-6 weeks to receive your magic holy water bottle.

No fraud.
 
Stoney McFried said:
And I see this absolute bullshit. And the sad thing is, there are stupid people who actually believe this shit.:roll:
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And so, I've decided to get in on the action. For only $19.95, I will hit you in the head with a hammer until you no longer care about your debt. Act now, and I'll throw in some inappropriate touching and steal your wallet.
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wow, this is hilarious, gods gonna erase my debt huh?..lol...with miracle spring water even?
 
Johnnyorganic said:
The question is: Did YOU watch it? If so, were you paying attention?

They are offering it for FREE.

Call the toll-free number, sit through a bullshit prayer, then endure a hard-press for a DONATION, politely decline, then wait 4-6 weeks to receive your magic holy water bottle.

No fraud.
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Peter has perfected his scam over the years. I have no doubt that this has been carefully constructed to be legally legit. So if we are speaking in just a pragmatic legal sense, your probably correct.


Ever wonder what happens if you request some miracle water, or a handkerchief, or prayer beads, or one of the other trinkets he's peddled over the years? You will get one of his "personalized" letters, which does contain a donation request, but hey the paper it's printed on is free.


Right now, I'm asking you to get out your largest bill. God sees your sacrifice, and it will be a sacrifice. God sees. It may be a $50.00 bill or $25.00 It may be a check. But step out in faith and give it to the work of Jesus Christ as a seed. Now give God a sacrificial offering. Give your biggest bill (or check). If it is a $50.00 bill, or $25.00. God sees. And ask God for His best blessing to be bestowed upon you.
The Holy Spirit is in this letter and is speaking to you now while you read these words. Please obey the Holy Spirit. The greater your sacrifice, the greater your blessing.
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You'll get a slight variation of this letter from time to time, unless you donate, then you will get them more and more. Also, you'll get an automated 'prayer line' call occasionally, again asking to trade empty promises for money.

He is clearly asking for money and offering a blessing. In fact, the money and the blessing are so closely tied together that the bigger the donation the bigger the blessing. Unless you believe Peter has the power to channel blessings to people, then you must agree that this is deceptive, if not strictly fraud.
 
We offer all prayers with tears in our face when we pray for our relatives, asking support for them. We put all sincere forces, all clemency of which we are capable also for what we pray in our prayer, feels our support. This is a huge energy which is capable to cure, help and direct.

Peter Popoff puts this energy in his prayers and transfers it through Peter Popoffs Holy Miracle Water to all those who pass their way of life with tears in their eyes
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Who can tell me what's wrong with this? Anyone?
 
I think I might get some of this stuff, but I'm not making a donation. I can take care of the prayer by smoking a few bowls of OG topped with Og keif. Makes everything cool . . . :eyesmoke:
 
Not sure it's possible to commit fraud with religion either, I mean the whole thing is a fraud. I applaud this dude for making some money off these poor broke saps. Probably part of the reason they are so broke is because they keep buying into crap like this. Now I've gotta think of some religious crap to start peddling myself, 'holy piss!'
 
NewGrowth said:
Not sure it's possible to commit fraud with religion either, I mean the whole thing is a fraud. I applaud this dude for making some money off these poor broke saps. Probably part of the reason they are so broke is because they keep buying into crap like this. Now I've gotta think of some religious crap to start peddling myself, 'holy piss!'
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Most of them are broke because they are old, impoverished, near death, and/or mentally ill. These are the specific people Popoff targets; those who are in the throes of desperation.

Luger187 said:
i think energy means sperm haha

im so fucking tired of religion
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Yes! E=MC2 and the fact that Popoff has somehow overcome the second law of thermodynamics. That qualifies him to win the million dollar prize, but hey when his tax returns for 06 report 23 million, 600,000 of which peter paid directly to himself, who needs a prize?

Let’s take a look at how much money this family made in 2005. The information comes from Ministrywatch.com which tracks questional religious organizations.

People United for Christ, Inc./ Peter Popoff
Known Compensation per IRS Form 990:
Peter Popoff: 2005: $686,932
Elizabeth Popoff: 2005: $261,146
Nickolas Popoff: 2005: $189,293
Amy Cardiff (daughter): 2005: $183,330
Kelly Media Group, Inc./ son-in-law to Peter Popoff: $1,948,458
Other organizations: (1) Peter Popoff Ministries, LTD, (2) First Point (United
Kingdom), (3) Word for the World, (4) Peter Popoff Evang. Assoc-Canada.

Peter Popoff made $686,932 from donations received. His wife made $261,146.

Kelly Media Group made $1,948,458. That’s almost TWO MILLION dollars for web-hosting and direct mail services???

2006 incomes were slightly less for the Popoff family:
Peter Popoff Ministries $23,556,469
Peter Popoff . . . . . . . . . 628,732
Elizabeth Popoff $203,000
Nickolas Popoff $182,000
Amy Cardiff $176,000
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Johnnyorganic said:
The question is: Did YOU watch it? If so, were you paying attention?

They are offering it for FREE.

Call the toll-free number, sit through a bullshit prayer, then endure a hard-press for a DONATION, politely decline, then wait 4-6 weeks to receive your magic holy water bottle.

No fraud.
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I did watch it, but I do not trust them. I see commercials all the time for "free" stuff. "Free" rarely means free.
 
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