supersymmetry
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yeah forget what i said about 80oz. 32oz seems like plenty for throughout the 5gal soil for now.
First Time Grower, G13 Feminized
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yes i did have root spinout, if that means that the roots reached as far as they could go, ran into a wall (jiffypot which hadn't decomposed yet) and they turned a little curly like pigtails. i cut off the curly parts, cut 'em to right under the side walls of the rootball, like 1/4" to 1/2 depth. i'm keeping an eye for runout so i can make sure all the soil gets wet at least once from top to bottom
Dr Gruber
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Hmmm...no it might take a couple gallons.
supersymmetry
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final water count for now, about 64oz. no runout yet but i will rewater later after it has time to absorb uniformly
supersymmetry
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ok roughly a gallon & a half now. still no runout but it's plenty until later tonight.
"local loser" plant's roots have totally pierced the jiffypot and i just noticed. time for this plant to go in an 80oz pickle jar for now. honestly i don't care if it lives or dies. sooner than later, i will move it outside.
"local loser" plant's roots have totally pierced the jiffypot and i just noticed. time for this plant to go in an 80oz pickle jar for now. honestly i don't care if it lives or dies. sooner than later, i will move it outside.
supersymmetry
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what do you do about soil shrinkage after it has absorbed water? just leave it as is, or try to fill it back in? seems like it would be hard to fill back in safely
supersymmetry
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gently lifted plant back out of container, shook the container several times to cause mini-earthquakes & let the soil crack up, refilled it to almost the top again, reinserted plant, rewatered it. it's got 2 gallons or more now. no runout. will keep an eye on things
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* * * * * i fully expect several days of stunted growth as the plant recovers to its new setup. my expectations are mid-to-low for now. will keep updated periodically
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2nd pair of leaves (healthy, and healthy from there on up) has surpassed in surface area and size the original set of leaves i was worried about (paler green, closer to yellow throughout). from a strictly photosynthesis viewpoint, i'm not worried about those bottom 2 leaves that much anymore. there's plenty of canopy above them
Dr Gruber
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Im not sure how you did it but you should have watered the soil before putting the plant in it. Get the new media in the 5 gal pot wet with lots of run off....wait a bit for it to drain. then put plant in soil ,back fill without compacting soil, water again enough to make old soil as wet as new soil and done. Is that what you did?
supersymmetry
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sort of and sort of not. i think it's fine. i didn't compact it. we'll see. kinda late to go making changes now but at least i'm learning for next time
ok now that the plant is in its permanent container, some more quick questions:
better to water day or night?
how often to water? eyeball it / feel it out by hand, or some kind of set schedule?
how long to stay on 18/6 light, and what comes after that? 12/12 for flowering?
what other routine maintenance or things to look for?
start water-soluble nutes in about a month like foxfarm bag says?
is ph-up/ph-down mixed into straight tap water ok within reason?
should i be checking runoff statistics?
anything else you can think to help a first time grower?
i'll have more questions like these in the future. thanks!
supersymmetry
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G13 right after final transplant is still achieving nice healthy green progress. those bottom 2 leaves are still green/yellow, i.e. not getting any worse, thankfully. the upper plant is visibly growing daily. i see a new set of leaves every day, every other day. my plant is still tiny tiny tiny compared to dr.gruber's photos, but it's growing. it's alive & kicking 
considering my total lack of planting/farming experience, i think i'm doing great. yes, i bought this plant for the high yield. however, from the getgo i had set a break-even point of 4 dry ounces. not pounds, ounces. that is still the goal. anything beyond that is gravy
whenever i try the 2nd seed later this year, that plant will have much more ideal circumstances.
yeah i know it sounds lame on a marijuana board but who cares? i'm happy i brought some new life into the world. it is already a win/win situation even if the thing croaks right now, hehe...
considering my total lack of planting/farming experience, i think i'm doing great. yes, i bought this plant for the high yield. however, from the getgo i had set a break-even point of 4 dry ounces. not pounds, ounces. that is still the goal. anything beyond that is gravy
whenever i try the 2nd seed later this year, that plant will have much more ideal circumstances.yeah i know it sounds lame on a marijuana board but who cares? i'm happy i brought some new life into the world. it is already a win/win situation even if the thing croaks right now, hehe...
Dr Gruber
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Honestly, for a first grow I would be very impressed if you pulled 4 oz's -but you bought the right seeds to do it!G13 right after final transplant is still achieving nice healthy green progress. those bottom 2 leaves are still green/yellow, i.e. not getting any worse, thankfully. the upper plant is visibly growing daily. i see a new set of leaves every day, every other day. my plant is still tiny tiny tiny compared to dr.gruber's photos, but it's growing. it's alive & kicking
considering my total lack of planting/farming experience, i think i'm doing great. yes, i bought this plant for the high yield. however, from the getgo i had set a break-even point of 4 dry ounces. not pounds, ounces. that is still the goal. anything beyond that is gravy
yeah i know it sounds lame on a marijuana board but who cares? i'm happy i brought some new life into the world. it is already a win/win situation even if the thing croaks right now, hehe...
supersymmetry
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is this about right?
avoid dark during veg day - good idea
avoid light during veg night - important
avoid dark during flower day - good idea
avoid light during flower night - very important
avoid dark during veg day - good idea
avoid light during veg night - important
avoid dark during flower day - good idea
avoid light during flower night - very important
Dr Gruber
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yep.....that about sums it up.
supersymmetry
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well, 2 things:
the "grow room" now consists of the 5 gallon bucket filled w/ soil & the plant in the center, another 5 gallon bucket with the bottom cut out and sitting loosely on the dirt, with a $6 12-watt 4-inch fan mounted on that empty bucket, and the ufo illuminator right on top of all that. this setup is pretty light-tight and it seems perfect to me (unless i'm missing something?), until the plant outgrows the height or width of the bucket, which will be a while from now.
just as i'm perfecting that setup, i see a microscopic white thing walking down the length of a leaf. i looked up known cannabis pests and it could be a spider mite, a louse, or something else. i think i saw one flying around too. they're as small as a grain of sand. i sprayed down the whole plant and mostly the undersides of the leaves. plan a = keep an eye out frequently, plan b = organic insect killer, plan c = pesticide chemicals, plan d = introduce the natural predator of whatever it is, but i gotta say that sounds far fetched.
any ideas?
the "grow room" now consists of the 5 gallon bucket filled w/ soil & the plant in the center, another 5 gallon bucket with the bottom cut out and sitting loosely on the dirt, with a $6 12-watt 4-inch fan mounted on that empty bucket, and the ufo illuminator right on top of all that. this setup is pretty light-tight and it seems perfect to me (unless i'm missing something?), until the plant outgrows the height or width of the bucket, which will be a while from now.
just as i'm perfecting that setup, i see a microscopic white thing walking down the length of a leaf. i looked up known cannabis pests and it could be a spider mite, a louse, or something else. i think i saw one flying around too. they're as small as a grain of sand. i sprayed down the whole plant and mostly the undersides of the leaves. plan a = keep an eye out frequently, plan b = organic insect killer, plan c = pesticide chemicals, plan d = introduce the natural predator of whatever it is, but i gotta say that sounds far fetched.
any ideas?
supersymmetry
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mixed up a 10:1 ratio of water:alcohol, added a few drops of dawn antibacterial soap as an emulsifier (to get the alcohol/water to mix), sprayed down all surfaces on the plant above soil, waited 5 minutes, thoroughly rinsed off w/ tap water. i'll check for those buggers again through the night. as far as i know there was only one, two max. i don't want them to start breeding and whatnot
supersymmetry
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i have nightly pix but i'll wait about a week and do a batch upload
Dr Gruber
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I have tried various sprays but i just heard no-pest strips are the way to go....
supersymmetry
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thanks! i'll look into that... 2 small updates...
1- even after washdown/rinseoff, a couple hours later there was 1 spider mite. physically removed it w/ clean instrument. since then i have seen none. let's keep it that way
2 - "local loser" plant in 80oz jar: tips of original 2 leaves are starting to dry up. it's getting a lot less light. i should do somethin w/ it today, probably abandon it outdoors
1- even after washdown/rinseoff, a couple hours later there was 1 spider mite. physically removed it w/ clean instrument. since then i have seen none. let's keep it that way
2 - "local loser" plant in 80oz jar: tips of original 2 leaves are starting to dry up. it's getting a lot less light. i should do somethin w/ it today, probably abandon it outdoors