6 400,s 4 Flood Tables Perpetual

[drgreentm]

Looking good im going to go to 6x 600 as soon as i get the heat issue under control, this will be
Epic grow cant wait to see how you doo

are you planning on running your usual 30 or you thinking of adding a few? that will be the next upgrade (digi ballast's dimmable) i think 20 under my 400's should be ok for now but if all goes well i want to run more in the future, im pretty sure it will be ok. just hope keeping the res temps down wont be a task but if they start getting high im just going to get a water chiller.

 

[hellraizer30]

Im going to add x2 600 and drop to 25 due to how crazy they get ing this system. And trim down the large leaves a bit
To eliminate shadowing. Less is more im hoping

A chiller is on my wish list also

 

[drgreentm]

Im going to add x2 600 and drop to 25 due to how crazy they get ing this system. And trim down the large leaves a bit
To eliminate shadowing. Less is more im hoping

A chiller is on my wish list also

i agree with you i think that will do great without having to cram them in, i am looking forward to this one i feel like a kid again come Christmas morning waiting for my package lol, i still have my mother flowering and my one tray (8 plants) all bubbas so i still have to let them go but i do have the clones vegging and will be ready for the new system so for now its just the waiting game.

the sog was fun and i would recommend it to anyone who had the perfect strains in mind for it, the WW's are 'ok' for sog but there average yielding dna just forces you to have extremely high plant numbers to get the yield you are looking for and the bubbas, well they just are not sog friendly you absolutely cannot lollypop these things without killing the already small yield these things produce but i love both strains so i figure this is the best way to go about keeping these strains and not having to sacrifice the grade of meds for the quantity you know.

 

[drgreentm]

and how easy would a chiller be to hook up on one of these systems?? im still a bit confused on how the whole thing works never really seen one in action, i have seen a top feed system but sure they are very different.

 

[hellraizer30]

Well i would have the chiller on a closed loop, looks like something like this chiller to a 20 gal res then into a coil thats in the main res. and then loop back to the res. Im thinking this to achieve the most eco plus way to chill 55gal. Easyer to chill 2ogal.
And use volume to chill the larger one, plus it keeps the chiller clean.

The ebb has a pump that goes from the res to the control box, theres to level switches one to stop a over flood and
The other to pump back the water to a zero level. The control box with the over flow switch allows the buckets to flood
Up to 3in from the top of the buckets, the timer is 24hr 15min pins. For 30 i flood for 30min. Each flood, now with veg
I flood x4 during lights on and bloom x3 floods all floods are 30 min long. During the first week from transplant i raised
The command box up 2 in. To raise the water line on all the buckets while roots develop the drop it back down, dont
Go more than 2 in or a flood could happen. Its important to keep the command box next to the res, reason for this is to
Leason the water that drains from the top edge of the res and back flood the command switch in the command box and trip
The pump, if this happens it wil constantly repeat and burn the pump up, so the drum needs to be next to the res. Hope
This all makes sense lol.

 

[drgreentm]

Well i would have the chiller on a closed loop, looks like something like this chiller to a 20 gal res then into a coil thats in the main res. and then loop back to the res. Im thinking this to achieve the most eco plus way to chill 55gal. Easyer to chill 2ogal.
And use volume to chill the larger one, plus it keeps the chiller clean.

The ebb has a pump that goes from the res to the control box, theres to level switches one to stop a over flood and
The other to pump back the water to a zero level. The control box with the over flow switch allows the buckets to flood
Up to 3in from the top of the buckets, the timer is 24hr 15min pins. For 30 i flood for 30min. Each flood, now with veg
I flood x4 during lights on and bloom x3 floods all floods are 30 min long. During the first week from transplant i raised
The command box up 2 in. To raise the water line on all the buckets while roots develop the drop it back down, dont
Go more than 2 in or a flood could happen. Its important to keep the command box next to the res, reason for this is to
Leason the water that drains from the top edge of the res and back flood the command switch in the command box and trip
The pump, if this happens it wil constantly repeat and burn the pump up, so the drum needs to be next to the res. Hope
This all makes sense lol.

that is a good idea for the chiller setup and for the system i think i get it somewhat lol im assuming i am going to need the keep the brain bucket on the platform with the other buckets and the drum will need to be as close to that as possible. so the pump will be constantly triggered in short bursts is there 2 pumps (one in the brain one in the drum) or one im just wondering how the water gets from the brain back to the res. thanks for taking to time to explain this stuff i have searched allot and strangely enough i havent even found many journals on grows with the system.

 

[drgreentm]

check out this blue dream plant i saw in a dudes journal on the internet i heard these things where not sutable for larger plants but fuck me look at this thing in a 2 gal pot lol he says it was a 9 oz plant and had 6 with 2 1000's

 

[hellraizer30]

Theres two pumps one in the command and one in the res. The command bucket can be any level as long
As the bucket are the same level. But the com box has to be right next to the res to stop the pump trip
Issuse. There is a thread called ebb & grow in the hydro section look it up theres tons of tweeks in it.

 

[drgreentm]

new addition to the flowering family, a nice long vegged WW i really want to see what i can get of this strain with a longer veg time she has been vegged for 8 weeks (prably a bit long but what the hell) so she is day 1 the bubba mother (middle) is day 8 and the tray of bubbas is like day 16 so this should all be a nice harvest around july, i figured the two large plants have 800watts to themselves and the tray has 800 of its own as well so lighting shouldnt be a problem.

 

[drgreentm]

Theres two pumps one in the command and one in the res. The command bucket can be any level as long
As the bucket are the same level. But the com box has to be right next to the res to stop the pump trip
Issuse. There is a thread called ebb & grow in the hydro section look it up theres tons of tweeks in it.

thats what i figured man is the thread called (for all cap ebb and grow users)?

 

[hellraizer30]

thats what i figured man is the thread called (for all cap ebb and grow users)?

yep thats the one

 

[newworldicon]

Boy has your grow changed over night mate but I think overall fewer bigger plants is the way to go, as a SOG grower I saw the value in growing this way. I too am heading in this direction. Good luck.

 

[drgreentm]

yep thats the one

sweet man thanks again for all the tips and everything sure i will have a few more for you but i will hop on that thread been checking it out for a little now (just skimmed though).

 

[drgreentm]

Boy has your grow changed over night mate but I think overall fewer bigger plants is the way to go, as a SOG grower I saw the value in growing this way. I too am heading in this direction. Good luck.

thanks man it really has changed lol but im hoping for the better should definitely be a journey.

 

[newworldicon]

thanks man it really has changed lol but im hoping for the better should definitely be a journey.

Well if you look at all the more experienced growers they all seem to prefer/implement this method of growing, you just cant beat a lower plant count ( for feds sake) and bigger yields to boot..bonus!!

 

[drgreentm]

Well if you look at all the more experienced growers they all seem to prefer/implement this method of growing, you just cant beat a lower plant count ( for feds sake) and bigger yields to boot..bonus!!

yup thats what im saying, i still think the sog method kicks ass and im keeping all my equipment, its easy to set up and if i got to i could put it in a much smaller space.

 

[newworldicon]

yup thats what im saying, i still think the sog method kicks ass and im keeping all my equipment, its easy to set up and if i got to i could put it in a much smaller space.

You are right, it is nothing to revert back once you have the kit.

 

[NEVER OUTGUNNED]

Very nice set up dude, i just today set up my first tray. I was doing perpetual aero/top drip in 5 gallon buckets, decided i instead needed more plants, less veg time (6 weeks), and less fucking hassle. aero is a bitch, all the hoses, clogs, leaks..ooooh the fucking leaks.. so ebb & flow was the way to go, clay pebbles instead of rock wool cubes, better aeration i figure. perpetual, every two week, under soon to be 2600 watts, plus 1200 watts for veg.

 

[hellraizer30]

Il never go back to aero i lost 30 top notch clones to it

 

[newworldicon]

Il never go back to aero i lost 30 top notch clones to it

That's a real pity mate, I however have never had issues, tried ebb&flood a short while back and just had to go back to aero, it was more down to my own personal situation with water falling from tray to res in the middle of the night making too much noise, a neighbour even asked if I had a leak....yikes!!!!!