Lets Give it Another Go - Afghan Kush x Yumbolt & Purple Haze
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dajosh42069
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Advice?
Find a median date (an average date) for your plants (not the monster). And operate on that assumption, the difference of a couple days shouldn't make TOO much, only between the oldest and youngest, so, take the middle number and say their all that old. Should keep from confusing you later in the grow.
And that thing is....wow...I truly can't wait to see what it becomes.
The SEED looked alright didn't it? It didn't look like something else?
The other's, they all look healthy and beautiful. What's your perlite/soil ratio?
Find a median date (an average date) for your plants (not the monster). And operate on that assumption, the difference of a couple days shouldn't make TOO much, only between the oldest and youngest, so, take the middle number and say their all that old. Should keep from confusing you later in the grow.
And that thing is....wow...I truly can't wait to see what it becomes.
The SEED looked alright didn't it? It didn't look like something else?
The other's, they all look healthy and beautiful. What's your perlite/soil ratio?
Gmz
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Sooo say they're about 1 week old? And the older one doesn't look healthy to me
. I'm not sure what my perlite/soil ratio is... I just kinda put perlite in then soil then perlite etc. until it was full lol.
DankBudzzz
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Did you mix it together or just leave it in layers?
Gmz
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I did mix it.
dajosh42069
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At least you did that. I typically use a 60/40 if not even 50/50 Soil/Perlite in my mix. But, I also use FFOF myself. It makes a lot of difference. But I was also starting with rooted clones, not baby sproutlings. People usually like to use Light Warrior for that.
Trust me, any minor deformities now will grow out and disappear in time. Only major defects will be noticed later in life. Just keep your eye on the oldest to make sure she doesn't get any worse. But personally, I don't see any probs in your pics.
Other then the mutant.
Which should prove QUITE fascinating.
Trust me, any minor deformities now will grow out and disappear in time. Only major defects will be noticed later in life. Just keep your eye on the oldest to make sure she doesn't get any worse. But personally, I don't see any probs in your pics.
Other then the mutant.
Which should prove QUITE fascinating.
Gmz
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Alright man thanks for easin my mind... The little mutant thing, I don't know, I kinda wanna put it outside and use 1 of the lamps for both these little guys to keep the heat down for now.
Gmz
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Ye that but, it seems yellowish too me as well.
dajosh42069
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If you SUPER concerned about it, i'd give it another day or so, let your soil dry out, and transplant to better soil with more perlite. 
BUT, If you wanna know what I'D do...? I'd leave it, give it more time, let it grow out. Even if it's yellowing ever so slightly, it will pass as the plant grows larger and has higher nutrient requirements.
If it's turning a little purple, it's no big deal, could mean a slight bit of stress, but just keep the temps around 80, the humidity at a decent level, and be sure to let the soil dry out up to an inch down between every watering, though I would go by weight. Wait til you haven't watered in your longest. You should be able to tell it's just a plastic cup and a little dry dirt VS wet soil.
Do me a favor? Take a broader shot of the plants, would you? I wanna see what containers you have them in. And if you want my advice, I would get some FFOF for your next (would be my only) transplant. (Fox Farms Ocean Forest) and a bag of perlite, from either Lowes, or the shop you go to.
PERSONALLY, if you can make it to them....(cont. in PM)
After that, you'll be all set for the rest of your grow, but it really depends on if you want to do a single transplant into 1 container, or multiple transplants into multiple containers.
Pro's VS Con's of that method are;
One transplant - It's easier to transplant once, not playing with bunches and bunches of soil and perlite. You don't need multiple containers, you don't shock the plant multiple times.
Multiple Transplants - They say each time the roots are given more room to grow, the plant goes through a growth spurt. (I don't know if that's a fact) Each time you transplant, your adding new fresh soil to the mix, as soil does get old and gets sodium buildup over time.
It's certainly your choice. But I personally just transplant once.
Anyway, that should be all for now
What lights are you gonna be using for veg? Which for flower?
Sorry for the super long message, but since I can't grow myself at this exact moment, I'm in teach/help mode...If you don't need the help, feel free to tell me.
BUT, If you wanna know what I'D do...? I'd leave it, give it more time, let it grow out. Even if it's yellowing ever so slightly, it will pass as the plant grows larger and has higher nutrient requirements.
If it's turning a little purple, it's no big deal, could mean a slight bit of stress, but just keep the temps around 80, the humidity at a decent level, and be sure to let the soil dry out up to an inch down between every watering, though I would go by weight. Wait til you haven't watered in your longest. You should be able to tell it's just a plastic cup and a little dry dirt VS wet soil.
Do me a favor? Take a broader shot of the plants, would you? I wanna see what containers you have them in. And if you want my advice, I would get some FFOF for your next (would be my only) transplant. (Fox Farms Ocean Forest) and a bag of perlite, from either Lowes, or the shop you go to.
PERSONALLY, if you can make it to them....(cont. in PM)
After that, you'll be all set for the rest of your grow, but it really depends on if you want to do a single transplant into 1 container, or multiple transplants into multiple containers.
Pro's VS Con's of that method are;
One transplant - It's easier to transplant once, not playing with bunches and bunches of soil and perlite. You don't need multiple containers, you don't shock the plant multiple times.
Multiple Transplants - They say each time the roots are given more room to grow, the plant goes through a growth spurt. (I don't know if that's a fact) Each time you transplant, your adding new fresh soil to the mix, as soil does get old and gets sodium buildup over time.
It's certainly your choice. But I personally just transplant once.
Anyway, that should be all for now
What lights are you gonna be using for veg? Which for flower?
Sorry for the super long message, but since I can't grow myself at this exact moment, I'm in teach/help mode...If you don't need the help, feel free to tell me.
Gmz
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I appreciate all the help I can get man, thanks for all the infoIf you SUPER concerned about it, i'd give it another day or so, let your soil dry out, and transplant to better soil with more perlite.
BUT, If you wanna know what I'D do...? I'd leave it, give it more time, let it grow out. Even if it's yellowing ever so slightly, it will pass as the plant grows larger and has higher nutrient requirements.
If it's turning a little purple, it's no big deal, could mean a slight bit of stress, but just keep the temps around 80, the humidity at a decent level, and be sure to let the soil dry out up to an inch down between every watering, though I would go by weight. Wait til you haven't watered in your longest. You should be able to tell it's just a plastic cup and a little dry dirt VS wet soil.
Do me a favor? Take a broader shot of the plants, would you? I wanna see what containers you have them in. And if you want my advice, I would get some FFOF for your next (would be my only) transplant. (Fox Farms Ocean Forest) and a bag of perlite, from either Lowes, or the shop you go to.
PERSONALLY, if you can make it to them....(cont. in PM)
After that, you'll be all set for the rest of your grow, but it really depends on if you want to do a single transplant into 1 container, or multiple transplants into multiple containers.
Pro's VS Con's of that method are;
One transplant - It's easier to transplant once, not playing with bunches and bunches of soil and perlite. You don't need multiple containers, you don't shock the plant multiple times.
Multiple Transplants - They say each time the roots are given more room to grow, the plant goes through a growth spurt. (I don't know if that's a fact) Each time you transplant, your adding new fresh soil to the mix, as soil does get old and gets sodium buildup over time.
It's certainly your choice. But I personally just transplant once.
Anyway, that should be all for now
What lights are you gonna be using for veg? Which for flower?
Sorry for the super long message, but since I can't grow myself at this exact moment, I'm in teach/help mode...If you don't need the help, feel free to tell me.
. And I'm probably going to be transplanting only once, and I try to stick with Homedepot for personal reasons, but i might go check that store out. And I'm gonna go ahead and take your advice and just let it stay in the container it's in now. The older seedling is in a pretty small party cup..... If i'd have to guess... 8oz? And the other one is in a cup of noodles cup, not quite sure how big those are. I'm using like.... 5500k 27w cfls for vegging, i couldn't find any 6500ks at homedepot lol, and 2700k 23w cfls for flowering. I really want to use all i have for flowering to get the most out of this grow, but i have a feeling heat is gonna be a HUGE issue.
Gmz
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I'm probably going to kill off the non marijuana thing, looks like it's dying anyway.... but uhm..... When i transplant my little fellas, would it be okay to put them in the soil that thing was in? I hate to waste.... And i don't have much perlite left i need to go pick some up.
dajosh42069
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Yes, go to Lowes.
They have 6500K 23W CFL's, 1600 Lumens for 2.50 each, and a number of other color temp bulbs. And also perlite. But I HIGHLY recommend some FFOF man, it really makes a difference, needs no nutes for about 3 weeks to a month (all of veg) and real nutes from a shop make a big difference, the ones from Home Depot and Lowes really aren't very good, they're all very high in most things and usually overpower plants. Remember, with nutes, if it's your first time growing that strain and you still have yet to get to know it well, always use 1/2, 1/3, or even 1/4 strength with your nutes, to make sure she doesn't get to much. You can always add more, but you can't take it out without a full flushing. (Pain in the ass). I started with MG (Miracle grow) nutes when I started, but at 1/4 strength, got me through veg quite well, but all strains are different.
The bulb color temps seems fine, but I recommend as many as you can possibly fit. The low watt one don't put out much light, so lots of them help. I vegged with 17x CFL's, 4x 5000K, and 13x 6500K and worked beautifully. You don't NEED that many, but the MORE the better.
What kind of pots are you going to use? And are you using a cabinet or...?
They have 6500K 23W CFL's, 1600 Lumens for 2.50 each, and a number of other color temp bulbs. And also perlite.
But I HIGHLY recommend some FFOF man, it really makes a difference, needs no nutes for about 3 weeks to a month (all of veg) and real nutes from a shop make a big difference, the ones from Home Depot and Lowes really aren't very good, they're all very high in most things and usually overpower plants. Remember, with nutes, if it's your first time growing that strain and you still have yet to get to know it well, always use 1/2, 1/3, or even 1/4 strength with your nutes, to make sure she doesn't get to much. You can always add more, but you can't take it out without a full flushing. (Pain in the ass). I started with MG (Miracle grow) nutes when I started, but at 1/4 strength, got me through veg quite well, but all strains are different.The bulb color temps seems fine, but I recommend as many as you can possibly fit. The low watt one don't put out much light, so lots of them help. I vegged with 17x CFL's, 4x 5000K, and 13x 6500K and worked beautifully. You don't NEED that many, but the MORE the better.
What kind of pots are you going to use? And are you using a cabinet or...?
Gmz
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It's a closet grow room, i do have 2 more lamps with 4 bulbs on each... making a total of 16 if i put them in, but I turned them on before for a heat test, and it was pretty damn hot in there. They're gonna go into 5 gallon buckets.... I really do want to pick some FFOF up.Yes, go to Lowes.
They have 6500K 23W CFL's, 1600 Lumens for 2.50 each, and a number of other color temp bulbs. And also perlite.
The bulb color temps seems fine, but I recommend as many as you can possibly fit. The low watt one don't put out much light, so lots of them help. I vegged with 17x CFL's, 4x 5000K, and 13x 6500K and worked beautifully. You don't NEED that many, but the MORE the better.
What kind of pots are you going to use? And are you using a cabinet or...?
dajosh42069
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You should. No reason not to.
And the heat will be excessive in an enclosed area if your running that many CFL's, it was for me too, before I moved to an open room. Only thing you can do it put in good ventilation to pull the heat out of there. I dunno how possible it is for you, but if you can cut a hole in the ceiling (as drywall patches are like...15-20 bucks almost anywhere) and put an exhaust fan, you'll be able to suck the hot air out of the closet, as long as your room that the closet is in stays cool, and you have a small space for passive intake, it should help quite a bit. Once you got your closet setup, you should throw up a pic, I can help you there too. But you def wanna get some Y adapters, or even the 4 port ones. And if it's affordable, a reflector or 2. (1 per plant should be fine), as it helps A LOT when it comes to utilizing the light.
You see, CFL's cast light in all directions, so most of it isn't even going toward your plants. A reflector helps use all light being produced by the plant. And the other BIG thing to remember with CFL's is that you have to have it 1-2 inches of the plants at almost all times, any more then that and your losing light.
I'm most likely only being so long winded about everything because I have nothing growing and have the free time to offer advice to a number of people....
Sorry again for all the rambling, feel free to ask for any additional advice if you want/need it.
And the heat will be excessive in an enclosed area if your running that many CFL's, it was for me too, before I moved to an open room. Only thing you can do it put in good ventilation to pull the heat out of there. I dunno how possible it is for you, but if you can cut a hole in the ceiling (as drywall patches are like...15-20 bucks almost anywhere) and put an exhaust fan, you'll be able to suck the hot air out of the closet, as long as your room that the closet is in stays cool, and you have a small space for passive intake, it should help quite a bit. Once you got your closet setup, you should throw up a pic, I can help you there too. But you def wanna get some Y adapters, or even the 4 port ones. And if it's affordable, a reflector or 2. (1 per plant should be fine), as it helps A LOT when it comes to utilizing the light.
You see, CFL's cast light in all directions, so most of it isn't even going toward your plants. A reflector helps use all light being produced by the plant. And the other BIG thing to remember with CFL's is that you have to have it 1-2 inches of the plants at almost all times, any more then that and your losing light.
I'm most likely only being so long winded about everything because I have nothing growing and have the free time to offer advice to a number of people....
Sorry again for all the rambling, feel free to ask for any additional advice if you want/need it.
Gmz
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Well the 2 lamps i have now have like.... 3 Y adapters on them so they have 4 in each 1, they both have reflectors but with all the adapters it really doesn't serve it's purpose. Oh and i just got my new seed, it was express shipping.... Very happy with world of seeds, I'm germinating it. It was like the biggest looking seed compared to the 3 they sent me, and most likely getting rid of the mutant thing. And would an air conditioner work to keep the room cool? I really don't see why not.
Ah and the older seedling is looking worse
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dajosh42069
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It would absolutely, they're usually fairly expensive though, and beware of humidity if your using a swamp cooler, but yes, 100%!
And pics on the older seedling?
And pics on the older seedling?
