Boosters and additives are TOOLS (not like Uncle Ben) but tools that are useful.
Useful in what way, botanically speaking? I hear all this testamonial stuff with no scientific cause/effect to back it up.
Speaking of "tools", it's quite obvious you're a tool for the snake oil industry, but calling me a tool? Hah, who am I a tool for, fool? Some associate professor in Cornell University's biotech department?
Certain things are just necesarry in hydro, and that is kind of how I feel about that as well.
Feel? And exactly what are those "certain things"?
Hydro may be cool on the streets, and always marketable.
Yep, 90% marketable the rest a bit of romanticism, mental alignment with da Kewl Kids, feelings of elitism, etc.
There is no magic formula. Healthy green plants produce the largest yields, and greatest potency. Learn the botany and physiology of the plant, and you can work with it, instead of fighting against it. Plants can be kept happy with very low cost products. A good 3-1-2 Lawn fert will make you some very nice buds, with nothing else. Pics don't tell why I'm too stoned to post pics a lot, because my med is much stronger than the street hydro.
Yep. Boosters don't make buds, leaves do. Some folks just can't seem to grasp that simple concept. I guess if I had spent $300 on 10 bottles of watered down crap I'd be singing the same "hurray for me" mantras too.
So, are you saying that h202 is a "snake oil" or additive? and the epsom salt? General Hydroponic nutes are known to be an incomplete plant food and need an additional source of mg and ca.
Never said H202 or epsom salts is a snake oil. I buy a pound of epsom salts at Walmart for buck.
Sounds like someone just got taken by GH. Most pot hydro vendors sell incomplete plant foods by design. The requirement to purchase more than one product to get what the plant needs is used to increase profits. These guys are splitting up one complete product into 3 which is what all these scammers do whether it be organic vitamins or Nikken magnets for healing the body.
If Dyna-Gro can put all 16 elements into their products (which includes Ca and Mg) why can't your "cannabis specific" genius's? BTW, Dya-Gro is NOT a cannabis specific food (not that cannabis requires anything special, it doesn't). I have bought Dyna-Gro for many years because it is legitimate and doesn't cater to the cannabis crowd. It's only recently that "cannabis specific" vendors have popped up like fleas on a dirty dog. Trend actually started in the late 90's and has taken off like wildfire. It's easy money because of the target group...... who by and large are not sophisticated nor educated and are quite gullible when it comes to claiming that their stuff is "new" and "improved".
Are you saying that you know for certain that your plant required the Mg or Ca? I doubt seriously if 90% of those lurking in this thread know what the essential elements are for good plant health and in what ratios.
I'm saying that if you need NPK and micros, there are value added products. If you think you need the amino acid stuff and enzymes.....good luck!
i believe hydro is the future, its more sustainable, better for the environment, uses less water and easier to maintain large systems. sure theres a bit more work involved until its automated, but thats the fun. sure i could throw some beans in soil and achieve the same results now, but not as fast as hydro will, and as we all know, time is money people.
Hydro has its place, as do a score of other methods. All depends on the application, the objectives. If I was growing tomatoes under 2 acres of greenhouses, naturally I'd be doing in water culture. Regarding the "future", every new crop of noobs will think that way. I know someone that is growing veggies using aquaculture (fish poop). I'd guess you'd call that "the future" too. To me and my associates, it's not only impractical, it's pretty damn stupid. Like most idealogues they will fail. Live and learn.
UB, to be honest, Im a little disappointed at your sweeping generalisations considering your a name I respect and a person whos advice Id usually follow...but Im wondering, if you've never tried PK13/14 or other boosters, how can just generalise that none of them can offer an improvement? Guesswork? Thats not very scientific at all and not what Iv come to expect from you to be honest.
No, cause I know better. I see you didn't read any of the links debunking the credibility of "boosters".
So you're willing to say right now, without ever trying (and from reading your posts even looking up) any of the aforementioned products that PK13/14 (etc) wont give me an improvement on my yield? Dont spout the "plants dont need it" rhetoric over and over again, if I wanted what they "need" Id go with base nutes, I want to give them a boost.
You tell me what's in that "boost" that is so wonderful. Does it produce and support leaves? Of course it doesn't, therefore a seasoned grower will not use it as it is a waste of time and money.
Also what would be the point in making a booster thats $15 a L with an application rate of (max) 7ml/5L water, for only one week if it doesnt work? Its hardly profiteering and nowhere do the company say it's necessary by the way either.
Ever heard of a placebo? People see what they want to see. If you think I'm gonna believe that 7ml/5L of a watered down product is gonna have any real world affect.....
So, are you gonna tell me catagorically that the PK13/14 will not give me any improvement to my yield at all?
If your plants have a P and K deficiency, and you can remediate that deficiency via one of your "boosters", then you may want to use such a food to take care of the deficiencies. More than likely you're buying a nickel's worth of potassium phosphate and paying $20 which goes towards profits and overhead costs like marketing, distribution, staff salaries, etc. Look at the label, betcha that's all it is - a tsp. of potassium phosphate in a liter of tap water slapped with a cute colorful label designed to appeal to the senses, cute product name, and claims.
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