The UK Growers Thread!

WOWgrow

WOWgrow

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I think we all understand that, but it would be good to see it to believe it. The Watt equivalent LED is a lot more £££ than the HID as well so for most it isn't really viable.
 
WOWgrow

WOWgrow

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On the note about growing tall, HID is capable of that. Check out this picture of pukkas G13 with just a single 600W about 18 inch (I think?!) from cola.

 
las fingerez

las fingerez

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WOWgrow said:
I think we all understand that, but it would be good to see it to believe it. The Watt equivalent LED is a lot more £££ than the HID as well so for most it isn't really viable.
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yeah thats the thing thats really gonna hold it back for the time being. theres no way i'd even think about shelling out a grand or so for 600w's worth of LED's to find out theres no difference from my lumatec (which coincidently i got at half price lol)

good luck to you though bro :)
 
Griffta

Griffta

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FutureLEDGrowth said:
You won't find us on AliBaba.
Our equipment is genuinely new to market and we put them together to order.
I would post on LED users UNITE! but I noticed a very explicit request not to post by manufacturers so I thought I'd leave them alone.
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fair enough, a lot of led units can be found on that site but they're made in china.
how new is your tech? what brand(s?) of leds do you use? whats the actual wattage draw of the light?
Fair enough, about the LED thread, maybe you should think about giving one of your lights to a grower who can journal a grow with it.
 
Airwave

Airwave

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WOWgrow said:
I think we all understand that, but it would be good to see it to believe it. The Watt equivalent LED is a lot more £££ than the HID as well so for most it isn't really viable.
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That's another thing. LEDs and integrated circuits are cheap as chips to buy. So how does he justify the cost?
 
las fingerez

las fingerez

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FutureLEDGrowth said:
OK guys. I promise this is my last word on the subject today as I've probably worn you out on this.

The way I look at it is this. Yes OUR lights are fairly expensive. That's because they're good and we put the best technology in them. That aside, my previous commercial set-ups, which were successful, were based around 600W Air-cooled lights HPS. Very effective great results. The cost though included: Digital ballasts, Reflectors, bulb, loads and loads of ducting (more the pain than the cost), a multitude of fans for heat extraction, (I personally used acoustic fans which as you know cost the earth), I had to be very proficient at DIY to put this all together and run exhaust ventilation effectively. None of this comes cheap. I guess you can average it out at say £300 per light on a 4 light tent maybe.
My 400W LED comes in a £450. You're right. It's dearer. Over the course of a grow I'll recoup that in electricity consumption on the lights alone. Plus I'm running fan only intermittently as there's no heat. I can seal my tent/room whatever and C02 it. Increasing my yield per watt. I suppose the fact that my fans aren't running full blast all the time gives me a bit more piece of mind noisewise and I have absolutely no heat signature or exhaust heat plumes to worry about. My yield is equal or maybe even slightly higer at the end of the grow.
Which is dearer now?
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cant see a 400w LED out performing a 600w HPS myself....
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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So now you're trying to compare a 400w led system with co2 supplementation to a 600w hps on it's own? how much does the co2 skew that power money saving then. You are aware of how daft a comparison this is right? Just keep pitching that spiel. If i wasn't paranoid about giving my address to strangers on a weed forum where it's known i grow, i would tell you to ship me one and i'll give you a 400w LED to 400w hps showoff, all i ever read is about how superior they are, yet i've never seen anything acutally proving it,
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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del66666 said:
ultra skunk, the ultimate, swiss cheese, california hash plant, industrial plant,power kush ,auroro indica, rocklock.are next, just ordered.
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Nice going :) I love having a big ol pile of seeds and trying to work out what i'm gonna lant next. This time around i got indecisive and planted near all the fuckers. All of em regs as well so could be some nifty breeding to be done (read as FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK balls balls balls COCKSUCKER!!!)

Either way i love the idea of creating something noone else has :) right now though i just wanna mate any and everything with my cheese, she's too much of a stinky biatch to not include her genetics. Right now i'm thinking cheese star and cheese dreams :D my mr nice fella is growing up a storm unlike the rather iffy TH seeds genetics, let me hear you say STRETCH!

Think it's about time i made good use of the 50 odd jiffy pellets i never found use for and start shipping cheese clones left right and center, my mother plant is getting rather large, been trying to train it to grow along the floor of the tent :D when it doesn't comply i snap the fuckers stem and tell her to behave! She doesn't listen though, perks straight back up.
 
Airwave

Airwave

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FutureLEDGrowth said:
I guarantee ours would in the C02 set-up I just described.

Locking up the office now. 100%. I'm definately going.

Thanks for listening and your comments. You knock me for trying.
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When taking all the details into consideration, the only time I can see LEDs being preferable to hps is if you have a small closet grow (scrog or sog) and you have problems controlling the heat. And it will remain that way until you overcome the lack of penetration and light spread.

The future isn't LEDs, the future is plasma.
 
WOWgrow

WOWgrow

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Was just about to post that airwave. Good call on the plasma as well. I'm gonna setup a small cold fusion chamber in my attic, I'll power the entire county for free. My HPS wouldn't put a dent in that amount of energy :lol:

Edit: dominos sambob! being stoned and pizza goes hand in hand, literally.
 
Airwave

Airwave

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tip top toker said:
Nice going :) I love having a big ol pile of seeds and trying to work out what i'm gonna lant next. This time around i got indecisive and planted near all the fuckers. All of em regs as well so could be some nifty breeding to be done (read as FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK balls balls balls COCKSUCKER!!!)

Either way i love the idea of creating something noone else has :) right now though i just wanna mate any and everything with my cheese, she's too much of a stinky biatch to not include her genetics. Right now i'm thinking cheese star and cheese dreams :D my mr nice fella is growing up a storm unlike the rather iffy TH seeds genetics, let me hear you say STRETCH!

Think it's about time i made good use of the 50 odd jiffy pellets i never found use for and start shipping cheese clones left right and center, my mother plant is getting rather large, been trying to train it to grow along the floor of the tent :D when it doesn't comply i snap the fuckers stem and tell her to behave! She doesn't listen though, perks straight back up.
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Speaking of Mr Nice...

I went to buy Critical Mass and got OG18 X Skunk #1 (5 seeds) and Neville's Skunk (5seeds) in my basket for free.

Then I remembered that I didn't have enough money in my account.

http://www.seedsman.com/en/checkout/cart/
 
tip top toker

tip top toker

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WOWgrow said:
looks like we've reached an impass ttt .... how do you want to settle this?
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I'd say a food fight. I reckon the Chinese would kick the Italians arse in a food fight. ever been hit around the head by a sushi grade 10lb salmon? Although saying that i've also had a sword fight with salami's and that's no picnic!
 
WOWgrow

WOWgrow

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tip top toker said:
I'd say a food fight. I reckon the Chinese would kick the Italians arse in a food fight. ever been hit around the head by a sushi grade 10lb salmon? Although saying that i've also had a sword fight with salami's and that's no picnic!
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hahaha, sounds like a rate sausage fest.

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Stick a wok in the oven at like 50 degrees odd before you go to get the chinese, then just dump the whole load in there and sit cross legged with it in your lap :) and the you feast!
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You ever tried putting a wok in the dishwasher? You could use them things as sledges!
 
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