Obama Bitch Slaps The Donald and Michelle Bachmann

NoDrama

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Check the FBI Database, they didn't think he was responsible for 911 either. There is no evidence to show he was, he took credit for every other act he planned, but the biggest one of all and he is silent? C'Mon man you really think he planned it all from his cave? No phones, no internet. Yet he shut down Military Air Command?
 

UncleBuck

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Check the FBI Database, they didn't think he was responsible for 911 either. There is no evidence to show he was, he took credit for every other act he planned, but the biggest one of all and he is silent? C'Mon man you really think he planned it all from his cave? No phones, no internet. Yet he shut down Military Air Command?
cave? i thought he was in a nice mansion and had couriers with access to internet and phones. besides, wasn't what's his name the true mastermind behind it?
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
You mean where he supposedly master minded 911? They say he lived in a cave in Afghanistan at the time.

The place where he was supposedly killed certainly wasn't palatial. There is a video of it somewhere.
 

londonfog

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Check the FBI Database, they didn't think he was responsible for 911 either. There is no evidence to show he was, he took credit for every other act he planned, but the biggest one of all and he is silent? C'Mon man you really think he planned it all from his cave? No phones, no internet. Yet he shut down Military Air Command?
You mean where he supposedly master minded 911? They say he lived in a cave in Afghanistan at the time.

The place where he was supposedly killed certainly wasn't palatial. There is a video of it somewhere.
please tell me you joking....please...
 

deprave

New Member
i'd like to believe you, but none of the 9/11 conspiracists have put together a decent enough argument (replete with evidence) that can prove anything.

it is not simply enough to disprove the official version, which has been done.

you also need to posit what actually did happen and back it with evidence.
are you serious? there is so much evidence it seems obvious to me that 9/11 was a setup/coverup, piles and piles of evidence, 100's of documentary videos have been made, thousands of experts. For one its fairly reasonable to believe there was bombs in the building:

[video=google;4194796183168750014]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4194796183168750014&q=explosives+used&total=979&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1#[/video]
 

UncleBuck

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are you serious? there is so much evidence it seems obvious to me that 9/11 was a setup/coverup, piles and piles of evidence, 100's of documentary videos have been made, thousands of experts. For one its fairly reasonable to believe there was bombs in the building:
yes, i agree that the official version has been debunked.

but no other version is coherent enough for me to say "that's what happened!"

and why are conspiracists so compelled to include a video instead of just explaining themselves with words? seems like a conspiracy to me ;)
 

deprave

New Member
yes, i agree that the official version has been debunked.

but no other version is coherent enough for me to say "that's what happened!"

and why are conspiracy so compelled to include a video instead of just explaining themselves with words? seems like a conspiracy to me ;)
lol, well of course nobody knows what actually happened. who could it have been to coverup such a massive operation here? I post the video because its more credible then me an anonymous guy on a forums telling you.

It definitely wasn't Osama Bin Laden that's for sure.
 

Johnnyorganic

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i never claimed that you think it is a constitutional requirement.

but it doesn't take a genius to see the subtle game you are playing, especially when you can't take a dump or rub one out without citing the constitution.

what you want is more rope to hang the guy by. or, as others demanding the school records might say, 'lynch' him.

what will it be after he releases that? what will you choose to find dissatisfaction with after that? are you going to demand to see a live feed of him 24/7 so you can make sure he is fucking his wife correctly?

just pathetic.
Lynch.

Nice, Buck.

How does does your race-baiting reasoning stand up to John Kerry? When he was still relevant, I wanted to see his military Medical Records.

John Kerry's tour in Viet Nam was cut short because he was wounded three times and earned three Purple Hearts. Yet he walked away in one piece.

John Kerry wind-surfs.

John Kerry skis.

John Kerry plays classical guitar.

I used to know a Viet Nam veteran who had three purple hearts. He was NOT in one piece. He was a shattered man.

There was no racial component in wanting to see the details about Kerry's three Skillcraft Purple Hearts.

There is little difference now. The only difference is the color of Obama's skin, which your side can't seem to let go.

Now that's is what I would call pathetic AND small.
 

mame

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What Johnny is doing is actually pretty common... Knowing full well that subtle race baiting is rampant throughout American politics, especially now that the president is black, conservatives deflect accusations of said race baiting with "It's not about race, you're the racist!" despite the undeniable fact that a notable number of voters in the 08 elections voted against Obama because he is black. This is undeniable. It's inexcusable.

Sure, you may truly dislike the man's policies, Johnny, but you can't ignore the facts and the facts are that there are a lot of people who dislike Obama because of the color of his skin.

Here are a quotes from assorted articles from around the 08 elections:
Much evidence points to racial prejudice as a factor that could be large enough to cost Obama the election. That warning is written all over last month's CBS/New York Times poll, which is worth examining in detail if you want a quick grasp of white America's curious sense of racial grievance. In the poll, 26 percent of whites say they have been victims of discrimination. Twenty-seven percent say too much has been made of the problems facing black people. Twenty-four percent say the country isn't ready to elect a black president. Five percent of white voters acknowledge that they, personally, would not vote for a black candidate.

Five percent surely understates the reality. In the Pennsylvania primary, one in six white voters told exit pollsters race was a factor in his or her decision. Seventy-five percent of those people voted for Clinton. You can do the math: 12 percent of the Pennsylvania primary electorate acknowledged that it didn't vote for Barack Obama in part because he is African-American. And that's what Democrats in a Northeastern(ish) state admit openly. The responses in Ohio and even New Jersey were dispiritingly similar.(source)
Here's an opposite view:
Obama, a black man running for president, only has a chance of winning because he is black. If he wins it is not because he inspired his base to vote for him. It won’t be because he was the voice of change. It will only be because of his skin color. If Obama wins it will not be because of his political savvy or agenda. It will solely because he is a black man running for president. He will get at least 95% of the black vote simply because he is “one of them.” He will also gain a large group of whites who feel guilty about slavery and will vote Obama to ease their conscience. If Obama wins it will be because we have overlooked the content of his character and judge him solely on the color of his skin.
(source)
And here, an article points out that the number of people likely to vote against Obama based on skin color could have been enough to allow McCain to win if the election was as close as the 04 election:
Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent" or responsible for their own troubles.

The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race could easily be larger than the final difference between the candidates in 2004 — about two and one-half percentage points.(source)
So, while it may be true that you aren't racist to cast it aside as a non-issue is nothing more than denying reality.

Now that's is what I would call pathetic AND small
 

londonfog

Well-Known Member
lol, well of course nobody knows what actually happened. who could it have been to coverup such a massive operation here? I post the video because its more credible then me an anonymous guy on a forums telling you.

It definitely wasn't Osama Bin Laden that's for sure.
That would have to mean that our government had something to do with it.. is that what you are saying ????? who else could if not Osama..it wasn't Timothy McVeigh ( was that a set up and cover up too ???)... If not Osama then it would have had to been our government..I say Osama and his Saudi boys...
 

Johnnyorganic

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What Johnny is doing is actually pretty common... Knowing full well that subtle race baiting is rampant throughout American politics, especially now that the president is black, conservatives deflect accusations of said race baiting with "It's not about race, you're the racist!" despite the undeniable fact that a notable number of voters in the 08 elections voted against Obama because he is black. This is undeniable. It's inexcusable.

Sure, you may truly dislike the man's policies, Johnny, but you can't ignore the facts and the facts are that there are a lot of people who dislike Obama because of the color of his skin.

Here are a quotes from assorted articles from around the 08 elections:

Here's an opposite view:

And here, an article points out that the number of people likely to vote against Obama based on skin color could have been enough to allow McCain to win if the election was as close as the 04 election:


So, while it may be true that you aren't racist to cast it aside as a non-issue is nothing more than denying reality.
I do not deny that some people may have not voted for Obama because he is black. People who otherwise would have voted DEMOCRAT who did not because of the man's race.

Read that second sentence again and give it a think or two.

I also accept that some voted FOR Obama strictly based on his race.

Don't they cancel each other out?

I would oppose Obama's policies if he was named Geoff Smith and was whiter than my bare ass.

What I object to is the default Leftist tactic of attributing all dissent to Obama to racial prejudice.

That's nothing more than a Liberal fantasy. And a false narrative.

In other words, It is the BIG LIE.
 

deprave

New Member
That would have to mean that our government had something to do with it.. is that what you are saying ????? who else could if not Osama..it wasn't Timothy McVeigh ( was that a set up and cover up too ???)... If not Osama then it would have had to been our government..I say Osama and his Saudi boys...
Yes it is what I am saying - when you examine all the evidence I don't see how it could be probable that it is any other scenario and it does make sense, "false flag terrorism" has been carried out continually throughout history in nearly every civilization including ours starting with Rome, it makes a lot more sense then osama bin laden doing this, a man who never even took credit for the attack himself, a man who is basically a fictional tv character.
 

mame

Well-Known Member
I do not deny that some people may have not voted voted for Obama because he is black. People who otherwise would have voted DEMOCRAT who did not because of the man's race.

Read that second sentence again and give it a think or two.

I also accept that some voted FOR Obama strictly based on his race.

Don't they cancel each other out?

I would oppose Obama's policies if he was named Geoff Smith and was whiter than my bare ass.

What I object to is the default Leftist tactic of attributing all dissent to Obama to racial prejudice.

That's nothing more than a Liberal fantasy. And a false narrative.

In other words, It is the BIG LIE.
All I know, is that my dad has been screaming about "the good ole' boys" failing him and my entire family voted for McCain based on one reason - Obama is black. When Obama won, I called my mom and was greeted with "they voted that nigger in, what a bunch of stupid mother fuckers."

It's hardly a big lie. It seems to me that the less involved one is in politics and current events the more likely they are to base their vote on what the candidate looks like, sounds like, or whether they are "the guy I want to have a beer with", etc. Considering most people have no idea what's going on in American politics, you could see how liberals see this as a problem - our guy is losing votes at least in part because of the color of his skin after all.

What about when Reagan used the "Welfare Queen" image to help him win the california governorship and then later the presidency? That's about as obvious an example as I could possibly think of that is undeniably nothing more than race baiting... There were never any confirmed cases of a single black woman with 9 kids and a baller cadillac living off of government cheese but that didn't stop racists from voting his way to put an end to it, did it? This is something the GOP has been doing for the last 50+ years. It's pretty sad honestly, but the average voter is just too dumb(and/or prejudice) to hold politicians accountable for these kinds of tactics.
 

UncleBuck

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Lynch.

Nice, Buck.

How does does your race-baiting reasoning stand up to John Kerry? When he was still relevant, I wanted to see his military Medical Records.

John Kerry's tour in Viet Nam was cut short because he was wounded three times and earned three Purple Hearts. Yet he walked away in one piece.

John Kerry wind-surfs.

John Kerry skis.

John Kerry plays classical guitar.

I used to know a Viet Nam veteran who had three purple hearts. He was NOT in one piece. He was a shattered man.

There was no racial component in wanting to see the details about Kerry's three Skillcraft Purple Hearts.

There is little difference now. The only difference is the color of Obama's skin, which your side can't seem to let go.

Now that's is what I would call pathetic AND small.
to argue that there is no racial component behind questioning how obama got into columbia and harvard is an insult to my intelligence.

and i said YOU wanted more rope to hang him by. i said OTHERS want more rope to lynch him by. get it?

i call you on your race-baiting and you accuse me of race-baiting? brilliant.

for some odd reason, virtually every county in 2008 went bluer than it did in 2004, except for large swatches of the south. coincidence?

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Johnnyorganic

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to argue that there is no racial component behind questioning how obama got into columbia and harvard is an insult to my intelligence.

and i said YOU wanted more rope to hang him by. i said OTHERS want more rope to lynch him by. get it?

i call you on your race-baiting and you accuse me of race-baiting? brilliant.
You are assuming my motives for wanting to see those records.

Wrong move.

I am just asking for full disclosure. Race is not an issue because it is expected from all candidates.

Didn't I mention John Kerry already? He's pretty white.

It is the Left who is attempting apply the minstrel show makeup as a means of shouting down the opposition.

for some odd reason, virtually every county in 2008 went bluer than it did in 2004, except for large swatches of the south. coincidence?
No coincidence. The South is Conservative. Obama is a flaming Liberal Progressive.

Deal with it.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
You are assuming my motives for wanting to see those records.

Wrong move.
did you note the part where i grant that your motives are not race-related?

are you trying to skirt the fact that much of this IS race-related?

I am just asking for full disclosure. Race is not an issue because it is expected from all candidates.
hahahahahahahaha. right.

i remember when they hounded bush to show his long form. i was around when they were asking how reagan got into whatever college he went to.

did i mention hahahahahahahahahaha already?

Didn't I mention John Kerry already? He's pretty white.

It is the Left who is attempting apply the minstrel show makeup as a means of shouting down the opposition.
bullshit. i see the game you are playing.

race bait the left. when the left points out the race component, call them race baiters and accuse them of playing the race card. frame yourself as the innocent victim. talk about all the racism against whites.

you poor, persecuted white christians. always having to suffer a war on christmas and whatnot. you poor, poor souls.

boo fucking hoo.

No coincidence. The South is Conservative. Obama is a flaming Liberal Progressive.

Deal with it.
many other parts of the country are fiercely conservative yet went for the 'flaming liberal progressive' (snark? yes, snark!).

or do you deny that the midwest is fiercely conservative?

did i mention snark?

edit: look at fucking utah. all blue. are they not fiercely conservative? again, snark.

edit #2: those liberal fucking mormons. fucking amateurs!
 
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