720W Tri Band LED Grow System Wk 7 Flowering

KronDonSmoker

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hey I brought the bad news up in another thread you just posted in but heres a quick jab at how you were ripped off

300w panel either has 400-600 leds on it (which isn't true), or it actually puts more like 150-175w of power into your 1w LEDs (which are crap compared to what 2w and especially 3w LEDs can do, although they both run about 1.5w - 1.75w each)

I wouldn't give the 300w more than 2ftx2ft on their own, with 2 300w and the 150w or whatever I would probably not put them all in anything bigger than a 5ft x 5ft tent
Whats up maing I can see what your saying in most of the post like i said before I dont go by the amount of space they told me it would cover I dont put more than 6 plants with the pots i use. If it doesnt fit right under the light I dont put it under. As for the amount of LEDs since there 1W LEDs and its a 300W light it has 300 LEDs and not 400-600 of them not sure where thats coming from, and I am definitely ging to upgrade to the 2W and 3W LEDs with my next purchase
 

KronDonSmoker

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hey I brought the bad news up in another thread you just posted in but heres a quick jab at how you were ripped off

300w panel either has 400-600 leds on it (which isn't true), or it actually puts more like 150-175w of power into your 1w LEDs (which are crap compared to what 2w and especially 3w LEDs can do, although they both run about 1.5w - 1.75w each)

I wouldn't give the 300w more than 2ftx2ft on their own, with 2 300w and the 150w or whatever I would probably not put them all in anything bigger than a 5ft x 5ft tent
Ok So i read the other post that was a little more detailed so its making more sense now....The lights are doing ok for me so far I cant say im satisfied or dissatisfied yet but I know I am going to do a lot more research on the next purchase do you use LED or are you anti LED and if you do where did you get yours from
 

jdizzle22

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Ok So i read the other post that was a little more detailed so its making more sense now....The lights are doing ok for me so far I cant say im satisfied or dissatisfied yet but I know I am going to do a lot more research on the next purchase do you use LED or are you anti LED and if you do where did you get yours from
I use a 395w 3w www.growledhydro.com Spectra LED unit, it has 252 3w LEDs which with their power and the 6 fans adds up to 395w. I'm saying whatever you get with these LEDs, just know its far from the best LED has to offer (and isn't going to compare to HID watt for watt like the better LEDs). I would suggest buying the 240w Blackstar units if you are strapped for cash (but remember they really run on about 133w) its the best you can get without paying almost $3 upfront for each w it really uses (not by that sum of the max rating of the LEDs). If you want a unit that is built to be the best and to last the longest (also has best warranty and return policy) and you have the money to spend then go buy growledhydro Spectra lights (rememebr though, when they talk about the wattage of their lights, thats the actual total (it is not the number of leds x the max w rating)

here are some pics of mine and some of what I've done with it. I only had it long enough to flower those plants the last 8 of their 9 weeks of 12/12. This baby ain't tri-band, its 12. Designed (although with LEDs thats more like paying for the best features and best parts most companies won't) and tested by cannabis growers in Cali. I read at least 7 completed grows with lights from this company, all great stuff, everybody switched from HID or whatever LEDs they were using to GLH (except during the winter when LEDs run too cool for some). I could go on about those features, but I will shut up now unless you want me to talk more

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KronDonSmoker

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I did some quick reading on that website I guess its under construction right now So ill have to go back to it when they got it all fixed up but they look good dood good prices good lights it looks like. Ill Have to see where Im at in a few weeks taking a trip down south whatever i have left over from my play money i may just dump into some real good LED light that can handle 8 or so plants at a time and double up my 300's in my other tent for vegging, money isnt too much of an issue if its under 2 g's anything more I got to wait a bit longer to get Thanks for the info I appreciate it
 

KronDonSmoker

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This has nothing to do with my Grow I just wanted to say Good Riddance to an Evil man I spent 6 years of my life with the mission of capturing and killing that bastard took a while but our boys did it
 

DesertSativa

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This has nothing to do with my Grow I just wanted to say Good Riddance to an Evil man I spent 6 years of my life with the mission of capturing and killing that bastard took a while but our boys did it
Thank you for your service and glad you are home safe.
 

ninjagaiden

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This has nothing to do with my Grow I just wanted to say Good Riddance to an Evil man I spent 6 years of my life with the mission of capturing and killing that bastard took a while but our boys did it
no doubt, your and all the other boys/girls oversees are doing us a great honor. I take no pride as a human/man/american in killing anyone - i find irony in the chants of USA! USA! USA! over the death of a human. However, i do take pride in the unity and solidarity america took as a country once those 2 towers came crumbling down. I am glad the chapter in american history is over. I thank you and your peers for the unimaginable tasks you guys had to perform. Thank you, and thank you again.
 

NoGutsGrower

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I use a 395w 3w www.growledhydro.com Spectra LED unit, it has 252 3w LEDs which with their power and the 6 fans adds up to 395w. I'm saying whatever you get with these LEDs, just know its far from the best LED has to offer (and isn't going to compare to HID watt for watt like the better LEDs). I would suggest buying the 240w Blackstar units if you are strapped for cash (but remember they really run on about 133w) its the best you can get without paying almost $3 upfront for each w it really uses (not by that sum of the max rating of the LEDs). If you want a unit that is built to be the best and to last the longest (also has best warranty and return policy) and you have the money to spend then go buy growledhydro Spectra lights (rememebr though, when they talk about the wattage of their lights, thats the actual total (it is not the number of leds x the max w rating)

here are some pics of mine and some of what I've done with it. I only had it long enough to flower those plants the last 8 of their 9 weeks of 12/12. This baby ain't tri-band, its 12. Designed (although with LEDs thats more like paying for the best features and best parts most companies won't) and tested by cannabis growers in Cali. I read at least 7 completed grows with lights from this company, all great stuff, everybody switched from HID or whatever LEDs they were using to GLH (except during the winter when LEDs run too cool for some). I could go on about those features, but I will shut up now unless you want me to talk more

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I've never used leds before but always check the led threads to see what kind of buds they are putting out. I'm going to have to say yours are the biggest buds I've seen so far. everything else is kinda spindly, yours look like plants. good job! plus rep from me! Any other threads you can point me to with good looking plants from led? I can get a 90w quad band (i think its quad) ufo from a friend because he didn't like it much and after seeing his plants I thought it was just junk! if its worth it at all I'll grab it.
 

jdizzle22

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I've never used leds before but always check the led threads to see what kind of buds they are putting out. I'm going to have to say yours are the biggest buds I've seen so far. everything else is kinda spindly, yours look like plants. good job! plus rep from me! Any other threads you can point me to with good looking plants from led? I can get a 90w quad band (i think its quad) ufo from a friend because he didn't like it much and after seeing his plants I thought it was just junk! if its worth it at all I'll grab it.
dude these plants are tiny runts, I harvest them all at like 8 or 9 weeks of 12/12 and most of them were 12 week strains I only got like 4.5oz from them I think and that was with 7.8 gallons of airpots (the big ones were in 2gallons and I don't think the plants had enough veg time to fill them out). I rushed them because they were just FFOF and I had this super uber soil mix I wanted to use ASAP (I also was going to need a harvest soon, and I figured this would hold my patient out until I made enough for the oil/cancer/cure made with the uber mix). I was very happy though with what the .8 gallon air pot plants did with only 4 weeks veg and 8/9 weeks of 12/12 though (take note, would work GREAT for SOG).

look up Irishboy on this website, he has a bunch of finished LED grows and his shit is WAY better than mine. One of his LED plants was the first LED plant to win plant of the month over at 420mag.com this year (or maybe it was last year?)
 

jdizzle22

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thanks! yours were the first pics of led plants ive seen that look like plants grown under an hps.
oops maybe I forgot to mention that they were 8 weeks of veg and 1 out of the 9 weeks of 12/12 under a 400w hps. The plants I have no vegging under the light are... frustrating. The light is so strong that the plants are putting all their work into new nodes everywhere instead of growing big and tall or many fan leaves first. I have 4 plants, one had 5 days under CFL, one had 8 days under CFL, and the remaining 2 went under the LED as soon as they popped out of dirt. The 2 seedling plants are like the size of 2 week HID plants at 4-5 weeks old (but they have tones more tiny little nodes growing. Luckily I just found the sweet spot for veg with my 395w above young veg plants, seems to be 4ft from plant tips with a light this strong.

Sorry for kinda jacking your thread dude, but i felt I needed to explain fully. With how much more efficient LED lights are at producing PAR , you know how people say LED is like 95% and HID is 20%, well I think its true. If you get a powerful spectra, be careful that you have enough room during veg that you can keep the light at least 3-4ft away or start with plants that have been under CFL or HID for at least 1-2 weeks. There doesn't appear to be any issue with flowering at 8 in with my light (though I get the feeling it should be 12in away or more in flower).

So yeah, be wary that you have room or good sized clones first if you get something strong than that 180w
 

NoGutsGrower

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yeah sorry for the thread jack! But thanks for the info! I will grab the ufo from him and see what it does, cant hurt its free! I like to try learn as much about something as i can when I start so I'll google it, but if you have any solid leads on more scientific led lighting info it would be helpful!
 

ChroniCDooM

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Hey what up? Just thought I'd give you some info about my LED. I have a 270W Enhanced Spectrum Supernova LED I bought last July from HID-HUT. I paid $1200 for my light. Currently on my third ever grow with it. I'm a rookie grower and have never used any type of lighting before this light. My first two grows were autoflower grows. I have a cabinet I built that is 5'Hx3'Wx2'D and was built to fit in a closet. Anyway I am currently on day 32 of flowering LSD a d Blue Mystic. The LSD is doing great buds are filling in nicely. I topped her also. The mystic is tall as fuck. I topped her also but she kept growing and is now all tied down and twisted. She is right up to the light. I actually had to remove the hanging bracket and mod the cab to raise it to max height. Hopefully next year I'll move from the cabinet to a grow room. When that happens I'll definitely be looking to get another LED. Here is the response I got from the manufacturer on the specs.
Hello,
Thank you for your interest in our Supernova, it is our most popular LED array at this time.

The actual power draw is 273 watts at full power. *They use Edison LED bulbs, and have 110 degree angle. *In our opinion, our light is better than most on the market. *It is a full spectrum for flowering (the ES one at least), is adjustable in case you're vegging with it or growing in a smaller area, and it has a 3 year warranty. *We can repair the lights indefinitely and since they are not a stamped on circuit board individual bulb changes are still possible.

Thanks, let us know if you have any more questions,
Justin Robinson
HID Hut Inc.

I'll definitely be looking into getting a light with the 3w diodes. Not that mine is bad I love it! All about upgrading by the time I can move to a space. Hey I'm subbed and I have a thread in my signature of my current grow and also my first grow is on here with pics from beginning to end. Check em out I also got some video links in my current grow up on YouTube. Here is the LSD on day 32. I have co2 in the cabinet also. First time using it.
Ok I have to post this from the iphone and then repost with pics from my cpu with the pics. Sorry.
 

KronDonSmoker

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oops maybe I forgot to mention that they were 8 weeks of veg and 1 out of the 9 weeks of 12/12 under a 400w hps. The plants I have no vegging under the light are... frustrating. The light is so strong that the plants are putting all their work into new nodes everywhere instead of growing big and tall or many fan leaves first. I have 4 plants, one had 5 days under CFL, one had 8 days under CFL, and the remaining 2 went under the LED as soon as they popped out of dirt. The 2 seedling plants are like the size of 2 week HID plants at 4-5 weeks old (but they have tones more tiny little nodes growing. Luckily I just found the sweet spot for veg with my 395w above young veg plants, seems to be 4ft from plant tips with a light this strong.

Sorry for kinda jacking your thread dude, but i felt I needed to explain fully. With how much more efficient LED lights are at producing PAR , you know how people say LED is like 95% and HID is 20%, well I think its true. If you get a powerful spectra, be careful that you have enough room during veg that you can keep the light at least 3-4ft away or start with plants that have been under CFL or HID for at least 1-2 weeks. There doesn't appear to be any issue with flowering at 8 in with my light (though I get the feeling it should be 12in away or more in flower).

So yeah, be wary that you have room or good sized clones first if you get something strong than that 180w
Hey whats up guys you jacking my Thread..Lol just kidding I could careless the more people talk the info I get without having to look at other threads lol, Those Plants look good Chronic I got some changes to make in my grow room just havent decided what exactly to do yet.
 

jdizzle22

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Hey whats up guys you jacking my Thread..Lol just kidding I could careless the more people talk the info I get without having to look at other threads lol, Those Plants look good Chronic I got some changes to make in my grow room just havent decided what exactly to do yet.
Whatever you do, be sure to follow these guidelines - Mostly or all 3w single chip diodes(2w is still a lot better than 1w), as many spectrum as possible (3-4 work fine though the high ends all seem to peak at 12), with lens angles under 100 degrees (60-90), and don't let them charge you more than $3 per true watt up front (if they mislead about the wattage of their lights I wouldn't buy from them at all, which eliminates like 95% of LED companies right away).

If you want to go the extra mile you could see if a finned heat sink is used (seems half or less do), if extra breakers are used (not sure what they are called technically), if fail safe tech prevents more than 1 LED from dieing at a time (most round lights (ex: UFO) and rectangular/square panels suffer this issue still and I only know of 3 companies that do anything to remedy this). You could also research how often the company has released new models or updates, if they don't seem to do much you may want to avoid them (as they may care more about selling what they can already make then having to fund R&D to try to make a better product) * *If they have been selling the same thing for more than a couple years I might buy from someone else, this LED grow tech is advancing quie a bit every year and theres no excuse to still be selling panels with 1w diodes now (or even 2w for any panel designed from now on).
 

digimidgi

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Never mind I figured that out. I kind of like these - http://cgi.ebay.com/Custom-Made-LED-Grow-Light-Highest-Quality-140-Watts-/250811210095?pt=UK_HomeGarden_Garden_PlantsSeedsBulbs_JN&hash=item3a6583596f

Ugly but they are super high quality LEDs and the guy seems to actually be an engineer and not completely full of bullshit marketing. Too bad the pound dollar exchange rate sucks so bad.
Hi.. I bought the 140w light from this guy about a month ago. I'd been asking him questions for about 2 months prior to handing over the cash. I've not been using it exclusively. I also have 4 x 45w CFL's.
This is my 1st grow and I'm just over a week into flower. Before I bought the 140w led I was using a 63w penetrator which done well with in veg. Unfortunately i put 2 plants in one 11Lt pot and have recently transplanted to 15LT Air pots. They are recovering very well from being badly root bound... But anyway I plant to do a grow journal with his lights next time.

Peas & mud
x
 

KronDonSmoker

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Whatever you do, be sure to follow these guidelines - Mostly or all 3w single chip diodes(2w is still a lot better than 1w), as many spectrum as possible (3-4 work fine though the high ends all seem to peak at 12), with lens angles under 100 degrees (60-90), and don't let them charge you more than $3 per true watt up front (if they mislead about the wattage of their lights I wouldn't buy from them at all, which eliminates like 95% of LED companies right away).

If you want to go the extra mile you could see if a finned heat sink is used (seems half or less do), if extra breakers are used (not sure what they are called technically), if fail safe tech prevents more than 1 LED from dieing at a time (most round lights (ex: UFO) and rectangular/square panels suffer this issue still and I only know of 3 companies that do anything to remedy this). You could also research how often the company has released new models or updates, if they don't seem to do much you may want to avoid them (as they may care more about selling what they can already make then having to fund R&D to try to make a better product) * *If they have been selling the same thing for more than a couple years I might buy from someone else, this LED grow tech is advancing quie a bit every year and theres no excuse to still be selling panels with 1w diodes now (or even 2w for any panel designed from now on).
Prolly the most handy quote Ill have when it comes to buy again thanks a lot bro
 
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