I Just Realized That Ireland Was.........

[UncleBuck]

I`m not a Nazi sympathizer and fuck you for trying to make me look as one for the last 5 pages.

i'm not TRYING to make you look like a nazi sympathizer, you are doing a good enough job of that all by yourself.

not sure why you have such unfounded hatred against an entire group of people. you should look into getting your issues resolved, though.

i don't sit idly by while bigoted internet gaylords defame me personally based solely upon my religion. so go spread your shit elsewhere.

i'm pretty sure that no one here needed me to dispel all the bullshit you put out there, but i had fun making sport of you the whole way. i'm done for now.

end point: fuck you and your anti-semitism.

 

[Carne Seca]

This whole exchange reminds me of the vilifying anti-gays thread.

 

[Hudsonvalley82]

Good lord there is no shortage of morons using computers in this world.

 

[Tenner]

i'm not TRYING to make you look like a nazi sympathizer, you are doing a good enough job of that all by yourself.

not sure why you have such unfounded hatred against an entire group of people. you should look into getting your issues resolved, though.

i don't sit idly by while bigoted internet gaylords defame me personally based solely upon my religion. so go spread your shit elsewhere.

i'm pretty sure that no one here needed me to dispel all the bullshit you put out there, but i had fun making sport of you the whole way. i'm done for now.

end point: fuck you and your anti-semitism.

The funny thing is that you seem to feel victory and glory for some reason, lol

 

[UncleBuck]

The funny thing is that you seem to feel victory and glory for some reason, lol

what's REALLY funny is that you constantly contradict yourself.

you say wherever jews go and mix in, they end up ruling...yet you can't name any examples.

you say jewish people are unfair in banding together and keeping you down, then you admit they are not keeping you down.

so why don't you tell me how jews put a drag on pre wwII germany? why don't you name me a few places they have gone and end up "ruling"?

put your money where your mouth is. produce some evidence to support your idiotic statements.

 

[TigerClock]

Ohh shit this is still goin on.......hold on lemme load a bowl.....



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[Tenner]

what's REALLY funny is that you constantly contradict yourself.

i'm pretty sure that no one here needed me to dispel all the bullshit you put out there, but i had fun making sport of you the whole way. i'm done for now.

end point: fuck you and your anti-semitism.

Is it not all out yet? lol

 

[UncleBuck]

so you've given up on trying to show any evidence or foundation for your bullshit and moved on to trolling instead?

a good troll would have noticed that i said i'm done FOR NOW, leaving open the possibility to come back and mock you further.

trolling is a art.

 

[medicalmaryjane]

it sounds to me like you are jealous of the position jewish people have achieved.

you could achieve the same thing, anyone can.

that's not true. it's a lot harder for people who start with nothing to get anywhere. i am not saying this in relation to being a jew vs nonjew, just based on where people come from and what they have, whether they are well-connected or not. achieving high class status is like winning the lottery. it happens to someone once in a while but generally people born piss poor remain piss poor. is it because they are lazy or is it because the system is setup to keep the poor poor or is it because the money is in the hands of greedy rich who don't share or give gainful employment to anyone? i don't know. not saying those rich are jews either.

i am agnostic so i am no jew hater, i hate all religions equally. religion a big fat joke!!!!!!!

 

[UncleBuck]

that's not true. it's a lot harder for people who start with nothing to get anywhere. i am not saying this in relation to being a jew vs nonjew, just based on where people come from and what they have, whether they are well-connected or not. achieving high class status is like winning the lottery. it happens to someone once in a while but generally people born piss poor remain piss poor. is it because they are lazy or is it because the system is setup to keep the poor poor or is it because the money is in the hands of greedy rich who don't share or give gainful employment to anyone? i don't know. not saying those rich are jews either.

i am agnostic so i am no jew hater, i hate all religions equally. religion a big fat joke!!!!!!!

finally, something true and substantive. it is like a breath of fresh air in this thread.

you are exactly right, it is A LOT tougher to achieve higher status when you start from the bottom. the cycle of poverty is a bitch to overcome.

i still hold that anyone can do so. i also hold, contrary to the opinion of tenner, that the jews are not holding anyone back.

also, i am agnostic as well. and a jew. yes, it can be done

 

[Tenner]

finally, something true and substantive. it is like a breath of fresh air in this thread.

you are exactly right, it is A LOT tougher to achieve higher status when you start from the bottom. the cycle of poverty is a bitch to overcome.

i still hold that anyone can do so. i also hold, contrary to the opinion of tenner, that the jews are not holding anyone back.

also, i am agnostic as well. and a jew. yes, it can be done

Still adressing me tut tut... This is going to be my last post.... That cycle you just agreed to, I`m personally seeing it happen in the country I was born. Its the island of Cyprus and there is a yatch harbour being constructed there. Jewish businessmen came with the worst attitude anybody from that island has saw. They bribed the government over 2 million dollars just to politically put political pressure on people who provide the harbour with raw materials. By sending off a 2 million dollar bribe, with the extreme pressures on the providers (as the government would kick them out and place someone else and get them to do it instead) the Jewish businessman was able to cut costs approximently by 10 million dollars (stealing raw materials off locals with bribes now), clever businessmen they are.. There was a LOT more shit going on and I only know this part, neither did I make an effort to follow it. Thats just the cake and there is a lot more icing on it hinting to stingy and careless profit oriented behaviour.

The construction of this harbour is going to lead the Jew`s having the only harbour in the mediterranean sea, therefore forcing the money out of the oil rigs to use their harbour. And one thing I saw myself and couldn`t belive when someone showed me, the whole construction of the harbour is blurred on google earth!

I have saw what I saw, and I know what I know. Call me a nazi sider or a narrow minded fuck whatever, I know that Jewish people are NOT to be trusted in any way while doing business and are to be concidered the worst opponents, if not an enemy in a business deal.

If you want to blart about how your a nice tax paying jew thats fine, however you can`t contradict all the bitter experiences businessman I know have had with Jewish businessmen and what I have seen them personally do. That is my solid evidence.

 

[dava]

Really unungrateful bastard

The following is a breakdown, by Branch of Service, of those who were killed in action during WW 2 in the US Military.

Army 279,180 Navy 49,329 USMC 21,726 Coast Guard 1,038

Go fuck yourself you limy bastard

ungrateful bastard? look at our troops fighting in afghanistan for Bush's propaganda.

pull your head out of your arse.

and whoever tried showing me your statistics, they ARE including your WAR with japan, not just the fighting within europe.

as to which we helped you with japan YOU UNGRATEFUL BASTARDS

 

[Harrekin]

I dont know if this has been said yet, Im not reading anymore pages to find out. Ireland only officially became a Republic in 1937. For almost 800 years prior to that it was part of Britian or a British dominion. Their rule upon Ireland was brutal (Google "Black and Tans", has nothing to do with race btw) and as a result the "Crown" was extremely unpopular in the 26 counties of the Republic. When WW2 broke out in September 1939, Ireland was desperatlely trying to establish itself after such a long period of servitude (thats basically what it was, anyone who say otherwise is lying) and didnt want to involve itself in matters externally. As a result a position of neutrality was declared and the Treason Act 1939 was passed into law, which allowed the death penalty for "anyone levying war against the State".

However this may be the case, many tens of thousands of now free Irishmen chose to serve on the side of the Allies (the Government didnt restrict citizens from joining armies from beligerrent nations). Irish military coordinated with British Military to ensure Ireland wouldnt be used by the Germans to attack Britian and shared intelligence with Britian related to such. Ireland also refused captured British weapons, military aid in (6 counties still British) Northern Ireland and money from Germany, despite hundreds of years of British oppression.

Anyways this post could turn into an epic one, but the main point is that despite Ireland being a 2 year old State in 1939, having dealt with hundreds of years of oppression from Britian, we still "assisted" the Allies by allowing new Allied planes transit over our airspace to Britian provided they were not on combat missions, we made assurances that Ireland wouldnt be used by Axis forces and even refused aid from Germany despite being a poor country, that just because we declared ourselves neutral and didnt become directly involved in combat operations (which we are too small to have really helped in) we still helped out the Allies and with a huge Irish descendancy in America we were never going to side against the Allies regardless of what how much the Axis offered.

So before people spout about Irish neutrality in WW2, could they please perhaps learn something about Irish history and why we made that decision, and how regardless of our neutrality we still gave preferable treatment/important information/volunteers to a nation that less than 14 years ago was our 800 year sworn enemy just because it was morally right? Thanks.

 

[dava]

I dont know if this has been said yet, Im not reading anymore pages to find out. Ireland only officially became a Republic in 1937. For almost 800 years prior to that it was part of Britian or a British dominion. Their rule upon Ireland was brutal (Google "Black and Tans", has nothing to do with race btw) and as a result the "Crown" was extremely unpopular in the 26 counties of the Republic. When WW2 broke out in September 1939, Ireland was desperatlely trying to establish itself after such a long period of servitude (thats basically what it was, anyone who say otherwise is lying) and didnt want to involve itself in matters externally. As a result a position of neutrality was declared and the Treason Act 1939 was passed into law, which allowed the death penalty for "anyone levying war against the State".

However this may be the case, many tens of thousands of now free Irishmen chose to serve on the side of the Allies (the Government didnt restrict citizens from joining armies from beligerrent nations). Irish military coordinated with British Military to ensure Ireland wouldnt be used by the Germans to attack Britian and shared intelligence with Britian related to such. Ireland also refused captured British weapons, military aid in (6 counties still British) Northern Ireland and money from Germany, despite hundreds of years of British oppression.

Anyways this post could turn into an epic one, but the main point is that despite Ireland being a 2 year old State in 1939, having dealt with hundreds of years of oppression from Britian, we still "assisted" the Allies by allowing new Allied planes transit over our airspace to Britian provided they were not on combat missions, we made assurances that Ireland wouldnt be used by Axis forces and even refused aid from Germany despite being a poor country, that just because we declared ourselves neutral and didnt become directly involved in combat operations (which we are too small to have really helped in) we still helped out the Allies and with a huge Irish descendancy in America we were never going to side against the Allies regardless of what how much the Axis offered.

So before people spout about Irish neutrality in WW2, could they please perhaps learn something about Irish history and why we made that decision, and how regardless of our neutrality we still gave preferable treatment/important information/volunteers to a nation that less than 14 years ago was our 800 year sworn enemy just because it was morally right? Thanks.

well put! i believe that sums up what the topic originally was started about!

 

[Hudsonvalley82]

Wow, so its the fact that the businessmen were jewish that caused all of this? Not that fact that they were businessmen?

Come to NYC buddy, I'll show you 20 business men per block that will make the Jewish Businessmen look like saints...
Thats how shit happens, people with money come in, get what they want, and fuck everyone else. That always how shit happens. Jewish or Muslim, Asian or Middle Eastern, American or British (again the BP spill makes that Cyprus thing look like a joke if you want to talk about injustice). Im sure that it was hard witnessing and being directly impacted by those business moves, but remember money is power. They didn't go to read the Torah and realize that it was time to have a powerful business venture in Cyprus. Instead they went to the bank and said, "I know how we can make more money". Its the money that gave them that authority, not the religion.

I mean shit, what a narrow view you keep to justify how the Jews were faulted in WWII. It had a lot more to do with WWI than anything else. Jews just ended up coming out of WWI in powerful positions, as they had allegiances with allied countries. They then capitalized on it, which any of us would do in the same position. Then Hitler said there was a supreme race and the reason the supreme race isn't in power is all b/c of the Jews.

There you go. I didn't was to go into detail cuz I really don't care that much. But still...no one cares anyway. No one. This is about ireland being a neutral country in WWII, and somehow (which happens more often than not) it turned into: "You know what? The Jews were kinda at fault." Thats like blaming the kid for being beaten by his drunken father.

Simply put, you can't make the argument that you are not a Nazi Sympathizer and still hold your views about the Jewish peoples role in WWII. They aren't directly juxtaposed, but they are pretty contradictory none the less.

You'll have to concede one of the two.

Still adressing me tut tut... This is going to be my last post.... That cycle you just agreed to, I`m personally seeing it happen in the country I was born. Its the island of Cyprus and there is a yatch harbour being constructed there. Jewish businessmen came with the worst attitude anybody from that island has saw. They bribed the government over 2 million dollars just to politically put political pressure on people who provide the harbour with raw materials. By sending off a 2 million dollar bribe, with the extreme pressures on the providers (as the government would kick them out and place someone else and get them to do it instead) the Jewish businessman was able to cut costs approximently by 10 million dollars (stealing raw materials off locals with bribes now), clever businessmen they are.. There was a LOT more shit going on and I only know this part, neither did I make an effort to follow it. Thats just the cake and there is a lot more icing on it hinting to stingy and careless profit oriented behaviour.

The construction of this harbour is going to lead the Jew`s having the only harbour in the mediterranean sea, therefore forcing the money out of the oil rigs to use their harbour. And one thing I saw myself and couldn`t belive when someone showed me, the whole construction of the harbour is blurred on google earth!

I have saw what I saw, and I know what I know. Call me a nazi sider or a narrow minded fuck whatever, I know that Jewish people are NOT to be trusted in any way while doing business and are to be concidered the worst opponents, if not an enemy in a business deal.

If you want to blart about how your a nice tax paying jew thats fine, however you can`t contradict all the bitter experiences businessman I know have had with Jewish businessmen and what I have seen them personally do. That is my solid evidence.

 

[bobbypyn]

Amen. I was thinkin about this when i woke up; Eire wasn't about to side with the Crown on anything. It wasn't about support for Hitler; it was about "Fuck You Britain! How ya'll like that shit?"

 

[WoodyHaze]

that's not true. it's a lot harder for people who start with nothing to get anywhere. i am not saying this in relation to being a jew vs nonjew, just based on where people come from and what they have, whether they are well-connected or not. achieving high class status is like winning the lottery. it happens to someone once in a while but generally people born piss poor remain piss poor. is it because they are lazy or is it because the system is setup to keep the poor poor or is it because the money is in the hands of greedy rich who don't share or give gainful employment to anyone? i don't know. not saying those rich are jews either.

i am agnostic so i am no jew hater, i hate all religions equally. religion a big fat joke!!!!!!!

Fuuny, the best company that i ever worked for was Jewish owned , Sal Rosen, the owner, still had the numbers tatooed on his arm from the dirty Nazi bastards, he made sure that everyone was paid well, gave away stock to employees and would give you the shirt off his back. yes he had a big house and nice cars but so did we. the truth is, like it or not, most people make what they think they are worth, the arguement that they started with nothing and thats the way it will be is exactly why you don't have anything. misery loves company

 

[medicalmaryjane]

Fuuny, the best company that i ever worked for was Jewish owned , Sal Rosen, the owner, still had the numbers tatooed on his arm from the dirty Nazi bastards, he made sure that everyone was paid well, gave away stock to employees and would give you the shirt off his back. yes he had a big house and nice cars but so did we. the truth is, like it or not, most people make what they think they are worth, the arguement that they started with nothing and thats the way it will be is exactly why you don't have anything. misery loves company

i never said anything about a jewish owned business. i was speaking in general about the business world. i don't agree with that misery loves company crap. some people have nothing because they have no opportunity. not everyone can afford decent education and people can't choose their upbringing. if you're the heir to a fortune, it's a lot easier to make more money and follow your passion. people who don't have anything have to work a lot harder because they can't follow their passion, many times they have to work a job they hate their whole lives just to break even. that's no life.

money makes money.

i do not have nothing anyway. i don't know why you're assuming things. i was raised in a good family, i have a good education... i have options but my health is not great so & that holds me back. id rather overcome being from the ghetto than health because bad health is something you're stuck with.

i don't know why you'rre attacking me. i never said anything about jewish people or about myself being miserable. i said that i can see the perspective of people at the bottom and that it's not entirely untrue. i have probably 100 jewish friends, ask them if i think negatively about jewish owned businesses.

 

[medicalmaryjane]

Still adressing me tut tut... This is going to be my last post.... That cycle you just agreed to, I`m personally seeing it happen in the country I was born. Its the island of Cyprus and there is a yatch harbour being constructed there. Jewish businessmen came with the worst attitude anybody from that island has saw. They bribed the government over 2 million dollars just to politically put political pressure on people who provide the harbour with raw materials. By sending off a 2 million dollar bribe, with the extreme pressures on the providers (as the government would kick them out and place someone else and get them to do it instead) the Jewish businessman was able to cut costs approximently by 10 million dollars (stealing raw materials off locals with bribes now), clever businessmen they are.. There was a LOT more shit going on and I only know this part, neither did I make an effort to follow it. Thats just the cake and there is a lot more icing on it hinting to stingy and careless profit oriented behaviour.

that is too bad but in my opinion, it's more of a problem with your government for accepting a bribe than the people who offered the bribe. they could have said NO. 2 million dollars isn't even a lot. i am surprised a government would be swayed by such a small amount.

 

[Carne Seca]

that is too bad but in my opinion, it's more of a problem with your government for accepting a bribe than the people who offered the bribe. they could have said NO. 2 million dollars isn't even a lot. i am surprised a government would be swayed by such a small amount.

The thing I'm wondering is, why is everyone taking this at face value? This so called bribe happened because he says so? He made a claim. Now he needs to back it up. Considering the past bile that he has spewed all over this thread I'm truly surprised that anyone believes anything he claims.