A Change from LED to HPS- Path Worth Taking!

whodatnation

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Plasma has my eye too mc purp, Have you seen the vids of them?!? thos things are fking bright! and very expensive! If I come across a few stacks that I didn't work for I'll get one and be the first person on riu using them ;-)
 

littlegrower2004

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Sometimes my plants will show dieing hairs 3 weeks in but they soon get overrun with fresh ones, but it never got to a point I was worried about it... My humidity is super low, so I dont know what could be causing your mid cycle crisis haha :-)

The poly is easy to work with and is thicker than those thick contractor bags so it takes allot to rip it. You could drape it over then cut a slice down the middle and glue on some velcro to make a door... I would be hesitant to do this because I cant stand the sound of velcro aaaaaaaa! Its worse than nails on a chalk board.
sounds like a similar problem but these plants pretty much went BALD! barely even got to see the hairs and away they went. but im glad they are reviving and showing good progress. definetely not where they should be for week 3 but this will do for now as long as they continue theyre current path. i worked on keeping my temps stable and havent gotten anything over 78 and nothing under 65F lately and thats pretty much a few inches under the light. glad to hear the poly is easy to work with, should save me a bit of money. i saw the velcro before in a grow video and always like the idea, if i cant get the zipper i may turn to that. Come on mannn velcro aint soo bad!

Nice grow so far keep up the good work man...Im debating on the quantom ballast and the lumatek do u have one of these..Im leaning towards the quantom tho i think can get a 600w with either the cool tube or the adjustable wing for 280...
thanks man. ive got a lumatek and i really enjoy it. havent used any other HPS so i cant say anything on the lines of comparing. the lumatek stays cool and is dimmable which would work good if i wanted to veg under 400w and then switch to 600w for flower or something. some other guy posted in the 600 club talking shit on it saying that it caused his bulb to have a short and melted his plug but i dont feel that was caused by the ballast, more of a user error.

looks like who dat answered you q already.
my first grow i made my whole room out of panda film. i pretty much made my own tent for less then 75 percent of a pre built tent. and as for velcro that is a great idea to, but they do make a zipper for it. it has a sticky side and you place it where you want your door and then stick it to it. after that you unzip it and slice inside in the zipper line to create the opening.

here s pic of what i mean.
awesome! ill make sure to check my hydro store for those things! i assume HTG sells it but i would rather try and get something with out shipping. thanks for that though!

ya mylar is like, less than paper thin.. can be a pain in the ass... and ya bro, nice image, tarp zip-ups are the shit.. and you gotta put the zipper on that way.. i have some friends that still don't understand that for some reason.. makes shit way easier, just stick it to the tarp, unzip it, and cut it with razor. or you'll be hatin life tryin to do it while its up, and it'll come out fucked up and not solid and air tight like its supposed to be.. lol worrrrd, things lookin good, im def interested in the led craze.. could b the future in veg huh? wild.. those apricot bars look awesome!! def gonna try that recipe.. peace!
ill make sure to follow the directions in the pic if i go that route. does seem a lot easier to put it on before hanging it. always easier to cut something being flat versus it being hanging. i wouldnt get too interested in LED as they are not worth the price and dont do a whole lot better than CFLs IMO. work good for veg but CFLs also do well. those bars are the shit!! real tasty and get you pretty high if good budder is used. make sure to let me know how you like them!

ya ive seen a few videos. they also have a nice foot print as well no light is wasted.

this video shows what i mean. very bright.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atrKO1tnNBY&feature=related
havent checked out those plasmas for quite sometime. i guess theyre actually using them to grow now? ill make sure to check out your link MC! any more lady bugs arrive?
 

littlegrower2004

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whoh what a multi post :-) I'll brb, gotta go get some stuff.
haha yeah i left for like two hours and had like 7 new post! had to get to most of them, make people feel they aint getting ignored. especially for them taking time to post in my journal which was left for dead a few weeks ago haha. thats the second BRB ive seen from you, hurry up man!
 

whodatnation

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brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb lol
Your getting more traffic in your journal than I do... looks like I need to step my game up, damn you LG!
 

whodatnation

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Heres the butter I said I would show... Its pretty green and smells like dank :-) Im going to do clarified butter next run.
Also a pic of the peanut butter nutty fudge I make :-) mmmmmm. Im gonna make the bars you posted and will let you know how it comes out. uuhhhhhh oooohhhhh I smell my pizza burning lol
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littlegrower2004

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Heres the butter I said I would show... Its pretty green and smells like dank :-) Im going to do clarified butter next run.
Also a pic of the peanut butter nutty fudge I make :-) mmmmmm. Im gonna make the bars you posted and will let you know how it comes out. uuhhhhhh oooohhhhh I smell my pizza burning lol
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haha looks like that budder was a bit of a mess for you there Whodat! does look nice and dark green and seems to be a good amount. i feel that i loose about half the butter i put in to evaporating and being in the plant material though i strain it to get the most out. that fudge looks delicous and could be some christmas time gift haha! glad to hear your going to try the bars, i think you will enjoy them especially once you get your chocolate overdose from the fudge. might have to try some vanilla ice cream with those bars when they are warm. make sure you wait for about an hour before cutting them or they will basically fall apart from the heat of the jelly.
 

whodatnation

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Yeah I was really high when I made the butter. You know how a crock pot works right? Well there is the container that holds what your cooking and then the thing that holds the pot and heats it up. Well I let it solidify and there was more water in the batch than I liked so I decided to cook it down even further ( steam off the water) The water also looked like it had some great stuff in it too. Anyways, I started pouring the re melted butter back in the crock pot with no pot in it ahahahahah sooooo stupid, theres a small hole in the bottom and it was getting everywhere! I lost a qp of butter to that. So that started the theme for the rest of my day lol, but it got worse. While making the fudge I got hit with the munchies and was too stoned to make something plus I had a huge thing of melted chocolate sitting right in front of me :-) and decided to take a lick from the spoon YUM YUM so I took another and another and another, then it gets a little fogy. It was a sloppy day for sure :-)

lol looking @ the pic, somehow I got chocolate all over the butter dish haha Im really trying to remember the rest of that day but cant :-) Im about to eat me another piece.
 

littlegrower2004

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im curious on how you got water in your budder? i dont think ive had water appear in mine. sounds like a stoney day for sure! surprised you didnt just fall asleep from all that chocolate. still waiting to see some of your paintings! im sure you got some good blazed influence in them.
 

whodatnation

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Well traditional butter has water in it already, and milk stuff. Clarifying butter removes the water and milk solids and leves you with 100% FAT PHAT FAT mo better to absorb thc. Removing the milk solids will also give your butter a higher smoke point too!


I had to add water to mine to add a little liquid mass to it, all the trim soaked up the butter and I needed more liquid and didn't want to dilute further with more butter sooooooooo after straining I put back into the pot and cook off the water and am left with just butter... strong butter.
 

newworldicon

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heres the link for the UFOs i have. when i got them they were still 599$. http://www.hidhut.com/catalog/ufo-led-grow-lights-p-1372.html. i got them a year and a half ago, used them for four or five grows from soil to hydro and still couldnt get anything worth the money.
$599 x2 plus the cost of the 600 and ballast and fan. You should have gone big and had a 500 or 600W LED which would be sitting right along side a 600HPS in performance and yield. Pick any of Irishboys grows for the proof.

This is what happens when you go in half hearted.
 

littlegrower2004

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Budding up nicely bro! What day again?
day 21 today but basically stuck in week two. i feel that the growth ive seen doesnt exceed week two since the shriveling of hairs but theyre actual time frame of 12/12 is 21 days.

$599 x2 plus the cost of the 600 and ballast and fan. You should have gone big and had a 500 or 600W LED which would be sitting right along side a 600HPS in performance and yield. Pick any of Irishboys grows for the proof.

This is what happens when you go in half hearted.
why would i want to buy a LED that has the same watt usage as a HPS for like 3 times the amount of money? the point of LED is to use less power for equal growth which isnt the case that i experienced. thats like saying buy 600 watts of CFL and youll be sitting next to a 600hps in performance and yield. i bought those LEDs before any research was done on others growing and most people hadnt even purchased LEDs by that time. the LEDs i bought were written about in high times and were highly recommened but that turned out to be shit. plus the 600w LEDS came out at different times then when i first purchased mine. dont come into my thread bashing what i have going and saying this is what happens when you go in half hearted. thats a ignorant comment in my opinion and i dont have any patience for this kind of shit anymore. just leave the thread with that kind of talk, no room for it here buddy!
 

newworldicon

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day 21 today but basically stuck in week two. i feel that the growth ive seen doesnt exceed week two since the shriveling of hairs but theyre actual time frame of 12/12 is 21 days.



why would i want to buy a LED that has the same watt usage as a HPS for like 3 times the amount of money? the point of LED is to use less power for equal growth which isnt the case that i experienced. thats like saying buy 600 watts of CFL and youll be sitting next to a 600hps in performance and yield. i bought those LEDs before any research was done on others growing and most people hadnt even purchased LEDs by that time. the LEDs i bought were written about in high times and were highly recommened but that turned out to be shit. plus the 600w LEDS came out at different times then when i first purchased mine. dont come into my thread bashing what i have going and saying this is what happens when you go in half hearted. thats a ignorant comment in my opinion and i dont have any patience for this kind of shit anymore. just leave the thread with that kind of talk, no room for it here buddy!
Don't get your knickers in a knot now, and the point of LED is not to use less power alone but the heat issues, the better light spectrum, the lifespan and as a grower of both big LED and HPS I can assure you you will be counting the cost down the line with the HPS.

In parting I did not mean to offend you so don't take it that way. But it is pretty clear you have lost faith because of them damn UFO's and that is a shame frankly.
 

whodatnation

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Half hearted?
Obviously havent looked through his threads lol or your just having a bad day? Or you've have had your daily serving of hater~aid.
Either way your still h8ting.
 

newworldicon

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Half hearted?
Obviously havent looked through his threads lol or your just having a bad day? Or you've have had your daily serving of hater~aid.
Either way your still h8ting.
Another one on sensitivity pills...read above for apology plonker. Nice avatar by the way.
 

whodatnation

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look through his thread before you start trying to tell some one something they already know or have already disagreed with... no since in having the same argument twice.
Don't get your knickers in a knot now, and the point of LED is not to use less power alone but the heat issues, the better light spectrum, the lifespan and as a grower of both big LED and HPS I can assure you you will be counting the cost down the line with the HPS.

In parting I did not mean to offend you so don't take it that way. But it is pretty clear you have lost faith because of them damn UFO's and that is a shame frankly.
 
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