20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction
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collective gardener
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Nope. We will taste no vine until its time. Flash drying is such a poor indicator of what the bud will be like when dried properly, I think it's a waste of time. We have plenty of head stash from our friends grows. I have also tasted this exact pheno several times grown by friends. Hell, I wouldn't have grown so much of it without having tried it. I am, however, looking very forward to trying ours. My buddies all grow under 600's. I've noticed that our buds, grown under 1000's, are much more swollen and dense than theirs are.
I like the idea of a pollen tumbler and one of those little washing machines. We could tumble some kief out, and then wash out the rest in ice water. I prefer kief, but hash has been known to make me very happy, as well.
collective gardener
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That's the difference between a 1000 and 600 watt lights. The 600's just don't quite plump up the buds as much.
TheLastWood
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Yea for me ill just save up keef in a grinder but ice hash is a real treat man my herer mother is only 3 wks 12/12 and I'm gonna get more off her than her 2 lil sisters. She's a fucking beaut stacking up so fat so fast. I'm so glaad I got a clone off her still. I had major clone losses. Def a keeper I'm gonna have for a long time.
Is ur buddy the only one whosze got laughganis?
Is ur buddy the only one whosze got laughganis?
collective gardener
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Why are you blooming out your JH mama? Are you done with that strain? You got any pice of the finished plant? Any budz shots? I'm a real fan of the Jack Herer Strain. This is totally my generation. JH won 1st place in the cup while I was just getting good at growing in the mid 90's. I flew to Holland to get some of those 1st seeeds. I came back with so many seeds, we didn't know what to plant. Of course, I got my JH. I also picked up NL#5, NL#5 X Skunk #1, and about 15 others of that generation. The NL#5 quickly became my favorite. The JH was great, but the buds grew all wormy in the end, hurting bag appeal. Maybe they have since fixed that. The NL#5, though, was the best thing since sliced bread. Oh, how we loved that girl.
After growing her for 6 months, my friend flew back to Holland and purchased 200 NL#5 seeds. Now we were looking for a "super" NL#5. Although the strain was stable for the time, we did get 3 plants out of 200 seeds that really out shined the rest. Those three plants became the mothers for myself and 4 other grows for the next 10 years. I have no idea how much weed was grown from those 3 Northern Lights girls. Maybe 1000 lbs? Anyways, one of those three phenos is still alive and producing cuts after 15+ years. My friends parents (in their 70's!) grow her in a small closet grow in northern Idaho. It's been their favorite bud since we gave it to them so many years ago. It's also been the only weed they have ever grown. Once a year I fly up to visit them and check on their grow. We smoke NL#5 that has been curing for months and months and play in the grow room. It's an amazing plant and still fun to watch grow and to smoke. While I am a huge Jack Herer fan, my heart will always belong to Northern Lights #5...possibly the best all around plant that has ever lived.
After growing her for 6 months, my friend flew back to Holland and purchased 200 NL#5 seeds. Now we were looking for a "super" NL#5. Although the strain was stable for the time, we did get 3 plants out of 200 seeds that really out shined the rest. Those three plants became the mothers for myself and 4 other grows for the next 10 years. I have no idea how much weed was grown from those 3 Northern Lights girls. Maybe 1000 lbs? Anyways, one of those three phenos is still alive and producing cuts after 15+ years. My friends parents (in their 70's!) grow her in a small closet grow in northern Idaho. It's been their favorite bud since we gave it to them so many years ago. It's also been the only weed they have ever grown. Once a year I fly up to visit them and check on their grow. We smoke NL#5 that has been curing for months and months and play in the grow room. It's an amazing plant and still fun to watch grow and to smoke. While I am a huge Jack Herer fan, my heart will always belong to Northern Lights #5...possibly the best all around plant that has ever lived.
collective gardener
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Sorry...got carried away with yesteryear. Basically, I am the only one now who has the Laughganis. The breeder and my buddy I got her from are growing different style crops that don't suit the Lavy well. This plant doesn't do well under 600 watt lights and needs to be constantly pruned. Their tables are more a "plant and forget" style, with very little access to the plants once the blooming has begun. Therefore, they've entrusted her to me for safe keeping. Our grow is based on total easy access to all of the plants throughout the grow. I also have Helper D to assist with canopy management. And, we use 1000 watt lights.
If our first production crop with the Laughganis is a success, my buddy will be converting a portion of his large flip grow to these plants. I also need to find out how well they do with a 400 watt induction light. Like I say, a 600 watt light produces a nice plant, but nothing compared to the colas produced by a 1000. This is one of those plants that needs maximum light, maximum nutes, maximum pot size, and maximum pruning to get its full potential. If a person were to just throw one under a 400 or a 600 watt light, they would not be impressed and maybe stop growing it. I wonder how often this has happened to people. There are several strains out there that need that ultra bright light to really thrive. I know that 600's have their place...I really do...but for overall performance with a wide range of canopy shapes and sizes...nothing beats a room full of 1000 watt air cooled lights.
On topic, I don't think I'll ever let one of these Laughganis leave the grow alive. It would have to be a very good friend, or someone in real need. They would also have to be far far away. I wouldn't want to see it showing up at the collective down the street. LOL
TheLastWood
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No I'm not done with the strain but my mother got about 3 ft tall and I had to flower her but I have clones of her. And 1 more beautiful jack that's lstd. I have a few pics but in the last week the cola has fattened so much that my pics are outdated.
As I said there outdated, in one week, and do no justic. Ill take more when I'm home. The bottom 1/3 of her is stripped for clones. Ill def be keeping her around
As I said there outdated, in one week, and do no justic. Ill take more when I'm home. The bottom 1/3 of her is stripped for clones. Ill def be keeping her around
TheLastWood
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I wish I had a better cam she's already so frosty too. Ill take a good pic later n show you. She's very vigorous and hardy I've not had 1 problem with her even when I did with the others.
TheLastWood
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I wish I had a better cam she's already so frosty too. Ill take a good pic later n show you. She's very vigorous and hardy I've not had 1 problem with her even when I did with the others.
NorthernLights#5
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do you still have the nl#5?
collective gardener
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I have access to one. She's spending her days in Idaho. After a solid 10 years of pumping out cuts for several commercial grows, she's moved up north for the easy life. LOL. Kind of retired into a small head stash 400 watt garden. If I can teach my friends in Idaho to tissue culture (they're 70+ years old...fat chance), they could mail me one. I will be going up there end of summer. I may try and bring home a cut for old time sake. I can't help but miss that strain. I know that there's little market for her now. If people gave that plant a chance they may find it as good or better than many of the "med" strains floating around these days.
You are obviously an NL#5 fan? What is your history with that strain?
collective gardener
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JH is a great strain. I grew her indoors and out...organic and hydro. She always did her job as good as any other. Those older strains seemed much more stable and hardy compared to the newer gear out there. Remember NL#5 x Skunk #1? Was that Sensi Skunk? Super Skunk? I just remember that thing throwing baseball size colas under HID's. Ah...the good ol days.
NorthernLights#5
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HUGE fan.(thats an under statement) Well I used to be your helper D to some one and thats all he grew. then shit happen got away from it all together and now Im back. But no one I " trust " has the original NL#5. Its just( in my eyes) the perfect plant. its all I smoked from the time I started till i stopped being a helper.(obviously i tried others but its was my number 1)
collective gardener
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Harvest Pics:
Helper D and Helper D2 trimming
Kinda like a corpse
Drying at last
Bubba buds may be small, but they are lovely
As you can see, the harvest is just in time. These Bubba plants are ready to move to the second veg area on the floor. The Lavander plants on the floor are moving into the bloom room. We still have lots of big Bubbas finishing blooming over the next few weeks.
I learn something on every grow. What I learned on this one is that the Bubba does better with a little less light in bloom. The plants that bloomed against the wall, and therefore recieved less light, had bigger buds and looked a little frostier. I took the light meter into the room and took readings next to the best looking finished buds. I then raised the lights to achieve that light strength in the center of canopy. This is a great problem to have. Raising the lights gives me a broader lit area. Originally, I made a judgement call on light strength. I knew that I wouldn't know for sure until harvest. Now, we need to see how the Lavs do with the raised lights. They seem to be a little more hardy. All in all, I'm very happy with the look of the buds. The amount of trichomes is very impressive. We blasted some scissor hash in the vaporizor and got plastered. We have a big ol ball of scissor has for tomorrow. I usually don't smoke during the day, but we're trimming, and smoking seems necessary.
Helper D and Helper D2 trimming
Kinda like a corpse
Drying at last
Bubba buds may be small, but they are lovely
As you can see, the harvest is just in time. These Bubba plants are ready to move to the second veg area on the floor. The Lavander plants on the floor are moving into the bloom room. We still have lots of big Bubbas finishing blooming over the next few weeks.
I learn something on every grow. What I learned on this one is that the Bubba does better with a little less light in bloom. The plants that bloomed against the wall, and therefore recieved less light, had bigger buds and looked a little frostier. I took the light meter into the room and took readings next to the best looking finished buds. I then raised the lights to achieve that light strength in the center of canopy. This is a great problem to have. Raising the lights gives me a broader lit area. Originally, I made a judgement call on light strength. I knew that I wouldn't know for sure until harvest. Now, we need to see how the Lavs do with the raised lights. They seem to be a little more hardy. All in all, I'm very happy with the look of the buds. The amount of trichomes is very impressive. We blasted some scissor hash in the vaporizor and got plastered. We have a big ol ball of scissor has for tomorrow. I usually don't smoke during the day, but we're trimming, and smoking seems necessary.
collective gardener
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I know exactly how you feel. When I visit my friends in Idaho that first bong hit of NL5 is like a visit from an old friend. I think the high is as powerful as anything out there today. It also has a great "up" quality without causing anxiety. I was specifically told by a commercial growing buddy not to grow anything with an NL flavor to it because the market is sick of it. I have a feeling if you got a killer NL pheno and called it "Moondust" or something else new and exiting, people would gobble it up.
I'll ask around and find out which seed bank has the best original NL's. Hopefully, someone has been continuing to refine it. Shit, now you got me wanting to put some in the grow. I may have to take an early trip to Idaho. I wonder if a cut could be sent overnight, strapped solid with a lightstick. Hmmmmmm....
TheLastWood
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Most def necessary n scissor hash is the bomb. Awesome pics. I'm so jealous.
mellokitty
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oh man, nl5 fans too? this thread just gets better and better.
i cut my teeth on reject clones from dr atomic's garden - nl5 x blueberry. really easy grow, beautiful bud, beautiful smoke, cerebral high, i miss it. now *that guy is working with some old school NL genetics. his collection is *HARDCORE*... if you get a chance, check out his "thai lights" variety.... flavour-wise, it compares the way thai basil is to sweet basil. insane cerebral high. omg i'm drooling right now.
i cut my teeth on reject clones from dr atomic's garden - nl5 x blueberry. really easy grow, beautiful bud, beautiful smoke, cerebral high, i miss it. now *that guy is working with some old school NL genetics. his collection is *HARDCORE*... if you get a chance, check out his "thai lights" variety.... flavour-wise, it compares the way thai basil is to sweet basil. insane cerebral high. omg i'm drooling right now.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
whats up with this kush thing all everybody wants is kush!! I call friend to smoke and there is it kush!! im like no and I get a wtf
yah I have orange kush and violator kush and bubba kush but my local old school strain smoke the kush. just think the kush thing
is over rated. and NL #5 is the shit!
yah I have orange kush and violator kush and bubba kush but my local old school strain smoke the kush. just think the kush thing
is over rated. and NL #5 is the shit!
ENDLSCYCLE
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The marijuana scene is more trendy than 13yr old girls.....if it doesn't have OG infront of the name, some say it's garbage...LOL
TheLastWood
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Plushberry is the only "kush" I'm gonna do and mostly cuz I want pink buds but the old school strains I grew up with are still my favs. There's so many names I never even heard of till I got on riu. I'm really not interested in any of the 5x hybrid strains. I totally get wanting to breed and make new strains its the natural progression from growing to breeding, I hope some day I know enough to do the same.