a moment of dispair

[MalteseGrower]

I can't say the name (this is my security measure) but let's just say that compared to its size, it makes the most noise of all. and that Jesus was born here.

how on earth did you get miracle grow in kuwait?

a garden center in rihab. most places that sell plants also sell nutes. is you are stumped on what to buy then get plant food for tomatoes or for plants that have berries. you can find them even where you are. if no luck at all for total and utter lack of nutes get a fish tank and some guppies and use the water from the tank to water your plants

 

[asaph]

a garden center in rihab. most places that sell plants also sell nutes. is you are stumped on what to buy then get plant food for tomatoes or for plants that have berries. you can find them even where you are. if no luck at all for total and utter lack of nutes get a fish tank and some guppies and use the water from the tank to water your plants

no, i have good ferts, bio bizz, hesi, ghe etc. the soil brands is what i don't have.

 

[MalteseGrower]

no, i have good ferts, bio bizz, hesi, ghe etc. the soil brands is what i don't have.

any potting soil will do

 

[lemonz]

alot of people have tried to be social with you and talk to you, but you are one hell of a moaner if things are not going right for you (then you post about it on a forum) then people try to help you and you react like a clown. stop dragging everyones mood down. you have got two options read more research more let people help you or give up and go and cry in too your pillow its up to you

 

[Airwave]

this just isn't working out
i've been trying for almost a year now
and haven't gotten anything back from my investment

I cannot do it by myself
and good help is SO hard to find

perhaps it's time to realize that it's out of my league and sell all the equipment
that way at least i'll have some money.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/412749-2010-1-indoor-coco-perlite.html

I simply do not understand how you cannot do it. I could understand if your grow isn't perfect, but to completely fail time and again? It's so easy!

 

[tafbang]

umm.... it's probably the easiest thing I've ever done, if you can't make a plant grow after buying stuff for it... ........

I'm using ceiling lights and miracle grow and just mimic nature... check me out, don't suicide. your plant is probably feeding off of your shitty energy.

 

[asaph]

alot of people have tried to be social with you and talk to you, but you are one hell of a moaner if things are not going right for you (then you post about it on a forum) then people try to help you and you react like a clown. stop dragging everyones mood down. you have got two options read more research more let people help you or give up and go and cry in too your pillow its up to you

i dunno, i guess it's a cultural difference thing. some people have been very nice and helpful, and I thanked them with all my heart and still do. However, I cannot say 'omg that totally worked thanks!' when that isn't true. I am polite and I explain time and again what I do (also according to people's advice) and how I fail. Some or most of it is a mystery to me as well.

Other people, however, including you, have been mean and obnoxious. I respect everyone, but nobody likes to be talked down like that. I am kinda sad and it reflects in my posts I guess, but it's kinda hard to help it, and I never forced anyone to read or answer - if you don't like me or my attitude, you can just stop reading, as someone here has already taken the time and effort to publicly declare (??). no need to come in here and start calling me names or accusing me of being an agent for the government (seriously!).

 

[cowboylogic]

Peat moss/worm castings/perlite mixed in equal proportion. Add seeds and water wisely....maybe twice a month or so make a casting tea and water with that. And if I remember correctly from a previous thread of yours. Temps above 90? Gotta get them under control and under 80. Run your lights at night when its cooler........... And for a moment I thought Terrel Owens had joined this forum!!!!! LOL or maybe Ocho........

 

[asaph]

I simply do not understand how you cannot do it. I could understand if your grow isn't perfect, but to completely fail time and again? It's so easy!

it's a mystery to me too, mate.
it's not completely true, of course. my first grow was actually kinda nice for a starter. it was bagseed of really shitty sativa, i just threw ten seeds in a 2gl pot with a soil i knew nothing about and it grew 3 nice single cola females in the end, like 1.5oz out of it. it was in a balcony with 5 hours of daily sunlight. hermed all the way, like all other plants after it, and I didn't even know.

since that one, every plant i grew was worse than the other. when summer ended i had to go indoors, that made it a lot harder for me, I grew some plants and got some buds, but over all felt that there is a reverse correlation between the time effort and money i put in and the quality and quantity i get. This is from a lot of different factors not just fails, also i was waiting long for seed bank genetics and had to start over because of bad genes from a friend, and many other things. I think you can see my post history or something to see the different plants i've grown and problems i've encountered if it really interests you.

this is the story, just cuz you were wondering!

i may be a bit hysterical. it could be that if i just leave my plants alone for a while they will grow. maybe not perfectly, or even not very well, but they will. the thing is, i really need this batch to be very good. and I also don't know why I can't make it. It feels like i'm just very very unlucky, even.

 

[asaph]

Peat moss/worm castings/perlite mixed in equal proportion. Add seeds and water wisely....maybe twice a month or so make a casting tea and water with that. And if I remember correctly from a previous thread of yours. Temps above 90? Gotta get them under control and under 80. Run your lights at night when its cooler........... And for a moment I thought Terrel Owens had joined this forum!!!!! LOL or maybe Ocho........

have no idea who they are. you being a prick is all i see here.

 

[profgerbik]

you must not being something right that is very crucial, growing isnt that hard at all, any plant for that matter. especially if you actually have the given equipment you have, anyone would be able to make that money back within 4-5 months easily.

i think you have the wrong attitude for some very weird reason, i also know it isnt completely right for you to be getting mad at others when they have tried helping you but all you keep saying is i dont need another grow guide? then what are expecting from anyone if you just keep blowing off their advice? obviously they are growing correctly.. so i dont get that part of this thread, also the government has reached a point that unless all people run the streets rioting ramped then nothing will ever change, cant blame everyone for some letting it go on so long, sadly most of us are born into this world without a choice but id be out their rioting if the day ever comes.

someone mentioned books but i dont see how books dont have their own opinions just like people online, ive read so many books all saying different things.

anyway i hate for you to waste so much effort and money that you have spent, which i cant imagine that it would break you from your lifes actual relationships or of a job, that just sounds ridiculous you arent growing on a factory scale or even a medical scale, so you shouldnt be worried about school, your job and whatever else, based off the picture and the gear there is no way that cost that much anyway. no offense just seems like your a little mad at yourself and giving up way too easily, i suggest you just keep going, i again will tell you it isnt hard to grow any plant.

i think what most dont realize is common sense comes into play a lot more with this kind of stuff, so many people do it their own with with so many people using different equipment you have to figure out what works best for you based off of common sense, i guess if you dont have that ability than you will have some trouble but im pretty sure most have it.

 

[profgerbik]

sorry but i really wish you luck but im not going to try going any further than saying if you were also forced to grow inside, it should never become more difficult inside, if you have a 400w hps no way at all you would fail that badly unless your trying to on purpose, maybe you should stop bothering with soil if its proving that much of a problem, also less nutes goes a long way, everyone assumes they need all these fancy nutrients when the plant thrives on nitrogen and phosphate. so if you are low on these 2 things chances are your plants/marijuana because marijuana is specific to those needs not most plants arent growing properly.

it also helps a great deal to post everything you think your doing right to help others get a idea of what you may be doing wrong when you make threads looking for help, we cant assume what your doing just by you telling us "I am doing everything right."
for instance, your PH levels, PPM, Water your using, Light Height throughout growth, how much nutrients you add to your water, lots of things be as creative as possible when trying to describe to others what you are doing exactly and i promise you, you will find out what your doing wrong pretty fast.

i wish you luck again and hope the best, it will work out if you dont give it up its that simple though, never give up as i say if you are seriously interested in something never give up on it, depends on you and how much you enjoy or care about growing, that i dont know so... take care.

 

[asaph]

you must not being something right that is very crucial, growing isnt that hard at all, any plant for that matter. especially if you actually have the given equipment you have, anyone would be able to make that money back within 4-5 months easily.

i think you have the wrong attitude for some very weird reason, i also know it isnt completely right for you to be getting mad at others when they have tried helping you but all you keep saying is i dont need another grow guide? then what are expecting from anyone if you just keep blowing off their advice? obviously they are growing correctly.. so i dont get that part of this thread, also the government has reached a point that unless all people run the streets rioting ramped then nothing will ever change, cant blame everyone for some letting it go on so long, sadly most of us are born into this world without a choice but id be out their rioting if the day ever comes.

someone mentioned books but i dont see how books dont have their own opinions just like people online, ive read so many books all saying different things.

anyway i hate for you to waste so much effort and money that you have spent, which i cant imagine that it would break you from your lifes actual relationships or of a job, that just sounds ridiculous you arent growing on a factory scale or even a medical scale, so you shouldnt be worried about school, your job and whatever else, based off the picture and the gear there is no way that cost that much anyway. no offense just seems like your a little mad at yourself and giving up way too easily, i suggest you just keep going, i again will tell you it isnt hard to grow any plant.

i think what most dont realize is common sense comes into play a lot more with this kind of stuff, so many people do it their own with with so many people using different equipment you have to figure out what works best for you based off of common sense, i guess if you dont have that ability than you will have some trouble but im pretty sure most have it.

you're not really saying much. but at least you're nice enough.

i'll say it again: I have already been at the point where someone said 'this setup works for me' and i tried to copy it. It didn't work. be it because of me or my country or culture or mindset or whatever, it just didn't. and now that I have a setup, i'm obviously not gonna try that again - not gonna kill all my plants and try over in a different setup just cuz someone said a DWC worked for him. because I know theoretically that a DWC will not work for me.

So like I said over and again, I am very thankful to everyone's advice, however some advice is better than others - telling me about your setup and how cool it was is among the less helpful. that's it. no hard feelings, swear. i'm not mad at anyone, except for people who bad mouth like some guys above here.

 

[asaph]

sorry but i really wish you luck but im not going to try going any further than saying if you were also forced to grow inside, it should never become more difficult inside, if you have a 400w hps no way at all you would fail that badly unless your trying to on purpose, maybe you should stop bothering with soil if its proving that much of a problem, also less nutes goes a long way, everyone assumes they need all these fancy nutrients when the plant thrives on nitrogen and phosphate. so if you are low on these 2 things chances are your plants/marijuana because marijuana is specific to those needs not most plants arent growing properly.

it also helps a great deal to post everything you think your doing right to help others get a idea of what you may be doing wrong when you make threads looking for help, we cant assume what your doing just by you telling us "I am doing everything right."
for instance, your PH levels, PPM, Water your using, Light Height throughout growth, how much nutrients you add to your water, lots of things be as creative as possible when trying to describe to others what you are doing exactly and i promise you, you will find out what your doing wrong pretty fast.

i wish you luck again and hope the best, it will work out if you dont give it up its that simple though, never give up as i say if you are seriously interested in something never give up on it, depends on you and how much you enjoy or care about growing, that i dont know so... take care.

not using soil is what i'm trying now, with little success so far. they guys in coco just look bad.

in this thread i have given several links to everything that I am doing and the (important) information you mentioned, with good photos too. I can't blame you though for not reading through it all though

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/412749-2010-1-indoor-coco-perlite.html
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/415445-help-coco-not-looking-good.html
https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/416102-seedlings-seem-burnt-good-soil.html

 

[Irollfatties]

what are your rez temps? upper 70's, 80's.... what? try a multi-flow system. they accommodate higher temps.

http://www.hydroponics.net/items/details/multiflow.asp

obviously on a smaller scale then the ones mentioned in the link

 

[asaph]

what are your rez temps? upper 70's, 80's.... what? try a multi-flow system. they accommodate higher temps.

http://www.hydroponics.net/items/details/multiflow.asp

obviously on a smaller scale then the ones mentioned in the link

i don't have a rez. If I had one, and it would be inside my closet, it would probably go to the upper 80's at some points, as I foresee that my spring/summer temps will be with the best venting i can get. at any rate, getting to the temps recommended for a normal hydro (non coco) setup will be impossible to do even outside the grow box, in the summer, as ambient temp in the house rises to 80+.

the system is nice though, if i lived in the state and had 500 bucks i'd go for it. or otherwise, try to pull on of my own. this is not possible now, but maybe in the future.

 

[lemonz]

what do you want from people? everytime some one suggest something you say that its not helping..................
Do you enjoy moaning?
what is it your looking for, someone to come to your house and grow it for you? (never going to happen)
if you wont take any advice just dont grow simple as that, dont come on here moaning!

 

[asaph]

what do you want from people? everytime some one suggest something you say that its not helping..................
Do you enjoy moaning?
what is it your looking for, someone to come to your house and grow it for you? (never going to happen)
if you wont take any advice just dont grow simple as that, dont come on here moaning!

I can't take ANY advice for the simple reason - some advices are contradictory. for instance if one says grow in soil the other says grow hydro - how will i know who to listen to? oh right, common sense. the one that made me politely reject these offers.

 

[asaph]

I can't take ANY advice for the simple reason - some advices are contradictory. for instance if one says grow in soil the other says grow hydro - how will i know who to listen to? oh right, common sense. the one that made me politely reject these offers.

i guess i'd be better off ignoring them. then people won't be offended because i rejected them, they'll just think i was too lazy to read or something. yep, much better for human relations.

 

[lemonz]

i guess i'd be better off ignoring them. then people won't be offended because i rejected them, they'll just think i was too lazy to read or something. yep, much better for human relations.

ok let me help you then,
what lights are you using? (are you using them for the right amount of time) (how far away are your lights)
what medium are you using (coco, soil, etc...)
what nutes are you using?
what are your temps like at plant level?
are moving air in the room? (fans, etc...)
when you water how do you water and how often?
have you got a reliable ph meter?
have you got decent seeds?