Why Do People Laugh At Creationists?

Dr.Nick

Dr.Nick

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I don't laugh at creationists. If they were to give an argument with valid premises and a conclusion that follows said premises, I cannot prove them wrong given the limits of human intelligence and understanding. A lot of them don't argue this way, but if one did I'd stand by my previous statement. Does this mean that the world as we know it was created by an omnipotent creator? No. Likewise, there is not evidence to prove that our world was not created by some deity. Both arguments are fundamentally flawed. And here's why - both sides base their attacks on one another on the absence of definitive (not suggestive) evidence on the part of the opposing side. Logically, a true and valid conclusion cannot be drawn by exclusionary argument unless all the possible variables are known. Therefore, without possessing what is essentially an infinite amount of knowledge, we cannot say with certainty who is correct.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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Dr.Nick said:
I don't laugh at creationists. If they were to give an argument with valid premises and a conclusion that follows said premises, I cannot prove them wrong given the limits of human intelligence and understanding. A lot of them don't argue this way, but if one did I'd stand by my previous statement. Does this mean that the world as we know it was created by an omnipotent creator? No. Likewise, there is not evidence to prove that our world was not created by some deity. Both arguments are fundamentally flawed. And here's why - both sides are trying to prove the validity of their conclusion via the absence of definitive (not suggestive) evidence on the part of the opposing side. Logically, a true and valid conclusion cannot be drawn by exclusionary argument unless all the possible variables are known. Therefore, without possessing what is essentially an infinite amount of knowledge, we cannot say with certainty who is correct.
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Actually, I believe this to be incorrect. One side does not attempt to demonstrate that the world was not created by some intelligent being. That side is busy defending against the attacks on science and trying to correct the misrepresentation of our position as anti-god. One side makes a claim about the existence of something. The contradiction of that is not another claim about the non-existence but a rejection of that claim. This is the true dichotomy, not the false one that you just described.
 
Dr.Nick

Dr.Nick

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I thought about going into the non-exclusivity of the current scientiffic model, however this is not usually the direction this argument turns. Typically, it breaks down into something of a philosophical (really more ideological) debate, in which there will be no winner. Neither side can win, so the only thing left is to attack one another. With that said, I will rephrase "...are trying to prove the validity of their conclusion..." to "...base their attacks on one another..." That seems to be more accuratte here.
 
Sure Shot

Sure Shot

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So now, God, IS your conscious?
So, if it's true, that God is everything, including the voice in my head.
Then, no man has ever born an original idea. No man can be held accountable for his actions. For his action are spawned from his ideas, that are God himself.
Not even the original sin, that was God's voice, telling Eve that Satan was right.
Your God's voice is even in the Jihadist down the street, telling him that you are an infidel and disconnected forever from the one true God.
Your God, is writing this, not me. So please, do not reply,.............. cause I don't talk to God.
 
Sure Shot

Sure Shot

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Your God use to instantly light Jews on fire, for simply murmuring negative remarks.
Those, were the days.
:fire:(God Is Everything):fire:
 
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