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Heads Up

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I'm thinking of going with the Growbright @ 6000K and maybe I'll swap out one of my 6500K CFLs that are over the humidity dome and are for the cloners for a 3000K one I have so they'll get a mixed spectrum. I'd never heard of giving seedlings and cuttings a mixed or full spectrum.

I can get a nice regular MH one (4200K) that's meant for digital ballasts for $40 shipped vs $63 shipped for the growbright (6000K) though is why I'm questioning myself here. I'd rather not spend more money if it's not necessary.
For my seedlings I use 6500k cfl's for the first few days and then move them into my tent under my t-5 and I use two 6500k tubes and two 4100k tubes and the plants stay nice and compact. I get my lamps from htg, the growbrights and I have no complaints other than once in a while they will give you an agromax lamp which is five thousand lumens dimmer, at least the hps lamps are. For over a year now I've been using growbrights and I see no reason to change. I'm just thinking I want the spectrum that the plants can use the most in veg and that is most assuredly in the 6000k range, so is twenty bucks worth giving your babies the best lighting conditions? I say yes, but that's just my humble opinion.

Edit...sorry dez, I have a habit of reading each post and replying before the thought goes so sometimes, like now, my answer appeared late for you. I think you made the right choice, again, my opinion.
 

DST

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Found this in one of Heath Robinson's threads and it got me wondering which MH spectrum I should be using. The vast majority of regular MH bulbs I see (digilux, grolux, etc.) are rated at 4000-4200 Kelvin and range from $30 to over $100. HTG sells a Growbright conversion bulb that's 6000 Kelvin with alittle hight lumen output than most regular MH bulbs @ $55.

there is a full spectrum of Kelvin ratings of 3k, 4k, 6.4k, 10k, for different stages of growth.

4K = Full Spectrum - SEEDLING / CUTTING

6.4k - Day Light - MAJORITY OF VEG

4K - Full Spectrum - LAST WEEK OF VEG

3K - Red Orange - MOST OF FLOWERING

10K - Uva Blue - FINAL WEEK


He was referring to the Sunpulse MH bulbs I believe but it still got me wondering about which bulb to buy. I've got one coming today that is a regular MH bulb and 4000K I think but it's an old used one so it will be temporary. I obviously don't want to go buying 5 bulbs and plan on using my HPS bulbs for a while still for flowering so am not sure if I should get the conversion with 6000K or a regular with 4000K.

Wha's the opinions of the 600?
I would go for anything in the 6-6.5k range for general veg.

Hi Guys. i´m going to invest in a 600w ballast + bulb. what do you guys think about awings vs. diamond reflector?
I am not sure I have used one but I would guess it would depend on your circumstances. If I was going to recommend anything I would say get a hood that you can cool. the 600's can push out some heat if you are only use to a 400, so that would be my opinion. Hope it helps, good luck and let us know more about what you plan and I am sure we can all help.

Thanks DST, I promised some bud pics. Still early days but i will post as the girls fatten up! Love the grow show club 600. The puppie is cool isn't he, he's a bulldog staffie cross.bongsmilieSounds like im lucky not to have a spider mite infestation.
He sure is.....and please do keep us posted.

Nobody commented on my post regarding MH light color temps so I ordered up the Growbright MH Conversin that's 6000K and puts out 72,000 lumens. Made the most sense to me so I went with it.

I was back and forth between this bulb and a Sunpulse 6400K MH but decided that since I don't know how long I'll be vegging to spend less money and get the growbright.

I may be going back to the idea of having no moms and just taking cuttings from the plants at about 2 weeks into flower for clones for the next batch. It'll take a cycle or two to get there but think I can make it work. I'll just keep a couple bubble cloners in the tents and veg the clones in the cloners for a week or two after rooting and then flower them. Thinking of having one cloner in a tent under flouro and another in the other tent under MH and once the clones are rooted, just swap the lids from the cloners to move the clones under the MH light. Something like that anyway.

I'm thinking of giving that setup that those guys are selling on ebay a try by building four small ones of my own and running 12 plants in each system. Just fill one up every two weeks and have a harvest every two weeks. Hopefully with a week or two of veg time I'll be able to get in the 3/4-1oz per plant mark and yield out 1/2-3/4lb.

I've ruled out all other options except trying to replicate Heath's flooded tube vertical grow. If I do that though, I'll do two octos and run half of each octo from it's own res so I can fill half of each every two weeks. Downside to this is plant count seeing as I'd have almost 200 plants going at some point and a batch of 50 or so clones. With the other I'll have 48 and a batch of 20 clones.
Alright, alright....worse than her in doors, lol. My opinion has been posted.

greetings ladies and gents, havent posted for a while but been lurking in the background, amazing grows u lot :)

can my fellow 600 brothers show some love for the dr amber's thread?

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/408757-dr-amber-trichome-super-lemon.html

Las :leaf:

edit - now an official member jus upgraded to the dimmable lumatec ;)
Ello mate, was going to pm you. Will visit the thread and show the internet love.

peace to all, DST
 

Heads Up

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I for got who mentioned this product, but is this the right one?

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=202072089&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_sku=202072089&ci_src=14110944&cm_mmc=shopping-_-googlebase-_-D28X-_-202072089&locStoreNum=1846

I dont have any mites tight now (crosses fingers) but wanna be ready if those assholes retrurn!
For some strange reason or other I see it does not mention a single pest we would be interested in knowing if it kills it or not? I think you can accomplish the same thing with simple building sand, it scratches their exoskeleton and they dry up and die???
 

Heads Up

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As for the mites, who under the sun knows where the little suckers come from? Here I was sitting all smug with not a single pest to complain about for two years and wham, mite I be interested in a mite infestation? No, I'm not, but nonetheless they were/are here? I bombed my room, I'll let you guys know if it worked. I've been looking at my plants with my super-duper mite magnifying glasses and so far so good. What's the best way to use neem oil? Mix it in warm water with a drop or three of dish detergent and spray?
 

ghb

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who isn't fighting spider mites at the minute?, i swear the next one i find is getting a slow death, they probably don't feel pain but i'm gonna torture the little swine.

maybe it's time to take up growing tomatoes, maybe one plant in the tent along with the mj to act as a canary, anybody tried this?
 

bassman999

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As for the mites, who under the sun knows where the little suckers come from? Here I was sitting all smug with not a single pest to complain about for two years and wham, mite I be interested in a mite infestation? No, I'm not, but nonetheless they were/are here? I bombed my room, I'll let you guys know if it worked. I've been looking at my plants with my super-duper mite magnifying glasses and so far so good. What's the best way to use neem oil? Mix it in warm water with a drop or three of dish detergent and spray?
Dont use anti-bacterial soap, but that sounds like the way to use it.
I was also wondering why it doesnt mention mites on the label for the Diatomaceous .
 

billcollector99

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who isn't fighting spider mites at the minute?, i swear the next one i find is getting a slow death, they probably don't feel pain but i'm gonna torture the little swine.

maybe it's time to take up growing tomatoes, maybe one plant in the tent along with the mj to act as a canary, anybody tried this?
Lol, Knock on wood, but they are on vacation away from here right now.
 

whodatnation

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HU just make sure the dish soap is "organic" Iv read that the ones with alcohol in them dry the leaves out real bad and also dont spray when the lights are on because the residue with fry those gals to death. I spray when the lights are about to go out and take them out and rinse them off real good as soon as they come back on. If my plants are small enough I like to actually dunk them in the solution to completely get every spot possible. Iv come across a home remedy spray and will share it with you guys when I mix a batch, it includes apple cider viniger, lemon juice, cloves, soap, and some other stuff lol supposedly leves no residue and is totally safe for pets and humans. Well its mostly a preventative spray but sounds great.


Oh and thanks to all the 600 luve I now have rep beyond repute :-) as if it really means anything lol
:peace: out peeps, gotta get back to trimming...
 

DoobieBrother

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I for got who mentioned this product, but is this the right one?

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=202072089&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_sku=202072089&ci_src=14110944&cm_mmc=shopping-_-googlebase-_-D28X-_-202072089&locStoreNum=1846

I dont have any mites tight now (crosses fingers) but wanna be ready if those assholes retrurn!
Just read the wiki on diatomaceous earth.
Haven't used it for pest control yet, but I sure have used it for lots of other everyday things. :-)
Interesting stuff: **here**
Peace!
bongsmilie
 

bassman999

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Just read the wiki on diatomaceous earth.
Haven't used it for pest control yet, but I sure have used it for lots of other everyday things. :-)
Interesting stuff: **here**
Peace!
bongsmilie
Interesting read! I dont know how to really use it, as it cant get wet without losing efficacy. Dynamite named partially after this is cool.
 

DoobieBrother

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I clicked on the image of the diatomaceous earth under a microscope and viewed it at full size and I swear there are bits and chunks of compound lenses from bug eyes scatterd throughout the sample.
Prehistoric victims, or polymerized silica synthesis?



Diatomaceous_Earth_small.jpg
 

littlegrower2004

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haha i love the video JIG! especially the beginning with your flower on the handle and the end with the peace! i wonder if you should have put the plants with more veg time in the lower tube as it seems the top colas may have no more room to grow other then towards the light. your a master with the SCROG so im sure youve got ideas for bringing those tops back down to get full nugs on each tipper. any idea why the girl in the middle on the lower tube grew so much bushier than the others next to it? have you seen any burning or noticeable change on the leaves closest to the 1k watter?
 

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jigfresh

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haha i love the video JIG! especially the beginning with your flower on the handle and the end with the peace! i wonder if you should have put the plants with more veg time in the lower tube as it seems the top colas may have no more room to grow other then towards the light. your a master with the SCROG so im sure youve got ideas for bringing those tops back down to get full nugs on each tipper. any idea why the girl in the middle on the lower tube grew so much bushier than the others next to it? have you seen any burning or noticeable change on the leaves closest to the 1k watter?
The one in the middle on the bottom was bigger to begin with... and she has liked her up close seat to the light. I think the two corner ones on each level don't get the love they deserve from the light. I like the bigger ones on top as they get pounded with light, I'll tip them over if they get too big, lots of room on each side. I've noticed the slightest bit of bleaching on the 2 or 3 leaves closest to the light, but that's it. They are like 4 inches from the glass of the cool tube, so it's to be expected.

Nice little frosty bubba you got there. props LittleGrower.
 

DST

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durbanmistyman said:
Love the canopy shot Durban!!!

Video update:
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Looking great, where would the OG Kush be placed? I was trying to figure out by the leaves but saw 2 possibles....

haha i love the video JIG! especially the beginning with your flower on the handle and the end with the peace! i wonder if you should have put the plants with more veg time in the lower tube as it seems the top colas may have no more room to grow other then towards the light. your a master with the SCROG so im sure youve got ideas for bringing those tops back down to get full nugs on each tipper. any idea why the girl in the middle on the lower tube grew so much bushier than the others next to it? have you seen any burning or noticeable change on the leaves closest to the 1k watter?
Sweet nug my bru.


I didnt get sound for the vid but looks great jig :-) what kind of ballast you runnin?
a 1k...ssssh, keep it down, we don't want a fight on our hands, hahaha.

Sound is on the way I think. I'm using a Sunlight Budget Grow II 1000w MH/ HPS deal. Cost me $125 plus shipping: http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/sunlight-budget-gro-ii-1000w-120v240v-mhhps-remote-ballast-p-2789.html
That reminds me of a joke I just read about sound and light...light traveling faster than sound so people appear to be brighter than you think...until they speak.

Here's a morning nug...
Woof


Peace, DST
 

ghb

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glad i already emptied my nuts this morning or i would be having some real issues right now. i love all the kush i'm seeing, looks real tasty.

my og#18 is done and though i like it, it isn't what i was expecting, i would say it was more of a diesel than a kush, last time i had some og it was nice and earthy yet sweet and tasty, the #18 is a bit too fuelly for my taste, night time smoke.
 

Outdoorindica

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I have been watching this one nug on my Galaxy for about a week now, think I decided this morning I am going to chop it off in about another week. I have been smoking on crap mid grade for the past week and I need something good. Its hairs are all starting to turn orange and I have watched it swell up a bit here lately, she looks so sticky and stinks so good, it will be the first nug to get smoked from this harvest cause Im fuckin needing something quality in my lungs.
 
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