Club 600

[DST]

Probably, but I am sure people with hydro get them as well. I agre with duchieman, keeping them out is the best way. Ideally having lower temps and high CO2, but even then, people with C02 get mites (Integra ran hydro and CO2 and still got mites.)

Duchieman, that is the same pratically as Diatomaceous Earth. That's why I told Dez to sprinkle some on his floor as well. Once the little shits get in contact with this it sticks into their body and also dries them out....I have some on the outside and also sprinkled along the dor where there is a gap, but looks like they found a way in anyway!!

Hey DST!... do you think mites have a better chance in soil? 'caus those 2 crops I spoke of were in soil... since I got the Aeroflo2 I havent seen any mites...,

I did get some nute burn for a while and I was so used to getting mites I freaked... it took me some time to figure out what was up

That is a good question Marlowe. I was wondering where they would come from, or any other pest for that matter? Do they come already in the mediums we use or do they migrate into our gardens from outside? Also, do hydro setups deal with them? Which brings me to why I ask. If they do occur in hydro setups then I would have to conclude that they come from external sources. If this is the case, then the battle should be keeping them out first. A while back my dog got fleas. The only areas in my home with carpet are the two bedrooms and a rug in the living area but they were full of fleas, particularly the bedroom because he slept there. We would walk into the room and they'd be jumping on our legs. We did all the usual things to combat them, washing clothes and linens with hot dry cycles, cleaning, treating the dog, all of it, but as long as they were in the carpets we were sunk. Then I read about Boric Acid or Borax, which I believe Boric acid is derived from. It is a key ingredient in pesticides, retail and commercial, and is a natural substance mined in the U.S. One of the many characteristics of it is that it is attacks an insects exoskeleton and dehydrates them to death. And when 1 comes contact with it, they carry it to the rest. Anyway I got boric acid from the pharmacy and sprinkled in on the rugs and I swear, withing days, there were no more. We kept the dog out and treated him, which was much easier now. So now I keep some sprinkled around the perimeter of my tent. I then just bought Borax, under the trade name 20 Mule Team Borax, in your laundry detergent section.

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Mites DO hibernate when there's no food or to cold for them that's partially why their so hard to eradicate, if your well into flower go with spray safe if not use plant vitality plus haven't seen a mite in nearly 12 months since using vitality plus it's also a foliar feed.
Tried using predators multiple times with no luck just wasted my money.

View attachment 1444606View attachment 1444607View attachment 1444608Hi 600 watters, Heres my ghs lemon skunk. 6 weeks or so and i will have some nice pics for ya all. Peace

Nice, thanks for some green shrig! all this talk of mites is getting me itchy, hehe.

And what a cute pooch.

Peace, DST

 

[duchieman]

Hmmm, interesting. I'll have to compare the two and see what's up. I'm not sure if you can apply borax or boric acid, anywhere near soil or plants, another thing I'd have to look into. Why all this homework?!?!

Edit. I also read that if you apply it like a barrier/wall, and they find a break in the wall, they will just go around it. It is suggested to lay it more like a mine field where there's noway through. Like I said, I'm on carpet so the borax is rubbed right in it. Unless they can jump 6 feet they have no choice but to go through it. I think when I move, if I end up on hard floor I will lay carpet under my tent.

 

[Dezracer]

Found this in one of Heath Robinson's threads and it got me wondering which MH spectrum I should be using. The vast majority of regular MH bulbs I see (digilux, grolux, etc.) are rated at 4000-4200 Kelvin and range from $30 to over $100. HTG sells a Growbright conversion bulb that's 6000 Kelvin with alittle hight lumen output than most regular MH bulbs @ $55.

there is a full spectrum of Kelvin ratings of 3k, 4k, 6.4k, 10k, for different stages of growth.

4K = Full Spectrum - SEEDLING / CUTTING

6.4k - Day Light - MAJORITY OF VEG

4K - Full Spectrum - LAST WEEK OF VEG

3K - Red Orange - MOST OF FLOWERING

10K - Uva Blue - FINAL WEEK

He was referring to the Sunpulse MH bulbs I believe but it still got me wondering about which bulb to buy. I've got one coming today that is a regular MH bulb and 4000K I think but it's an old used one so it will be temporary. I obviously don't want to go buying 5 bulbs and plan on using my HPS bulbs for a while still for flowering so am not sure if I should get the conversion with 6000K or a regular with 4000K.

Wha's the opinions of the 600?

 

[Dezracer]

I'm thinking of going with the Growbright @ 6000K and maybe I'll swap out one of my 6500K CFLs that are over the humidity dome and are for the cloners for a 3000K one I have so they'll get a mixed spectrum. I'd never heard of giving seedlings and cuttings a mixed or full spectrum.

I can get a nice regular MH one (4200K) that's meant for digital ballasts for $40 shipped vs $63 shipped for the growbright (6000K) though is why I'm questioning myself here. I'd rather not spend more money if it's not necessary.

 

[1badmasonman]

Well fellas i got 2 hotshot no pest strips hanging. Cof recommended sucking them off the plants with a shop vac which im going to try here a bit later. What a kick in the nuts first pollnation now mites. Hopefully the strips atleast get me close to harvest. May even have to take them a bit early. Is there any good organic foliar mite killer than someone can recommend. Preferably something that can be bought local and not ordered. Thanks

 

[Dezracer]

There's some organic stuff at Home Depot that I've also seen at hydro shops and at a local nursery. One of them is what I've been using, Garden Takedown Spray, and it worked really well the first two times I had mites but it doesn't look like it's doing much now. They have a small organic pesticide section along with their other stuff. I picked up a spray can of some stuff that's for flying insects and sprayed everything with that too last night. Don't remember the name but it's supposed to be safe for human consumption and is oil based so it should coat the insects and suffocate them, like neem oil. I would think since it works off similar principles to neem, it just might help me with the mites too. I'm at the 'whatever it takes' stage right now since I'm only 2-3 weeks from harvest.

 

[ecs@live]

Hi Guys. i´m going to invest in a 600w ballast + bulb. what do you guys think about awings vs. diamond reflector?

 

[billcollector99]

There's some organic stuff at Home Depot that I've also seen at hydro shops and at a local nursery. One of them is what I've been using, Garden Takedown Spray, and it worked really well the first two times I had mites but it doesn't look like it's doing much now. They have a small organic pesticide section along with their other stuff. I picked up a spray can of some stuff that's for flying insects and sprayed everything with that too last night. Don't remember the name but it's supposed to be safe for human consumption and is oil based so it should coat the insects and suffocate them, like neem oil. I would think since it works off similar principles to neem, it just might help me with the mites too. I'm at the 'whatever it takes' stage right now since I'm only 2-3 weeks from harvest.

I believe you are talking about the horticultural oil at home depot, I have used it in the past and it works wonders, kills everything but caterpillars. i also have been using SM-90 to take care of my pest problems recently, it works really well at keeping them at bay.

 

[shrigpiece]

Thanks DST, I promised some bud pics. Still early days but i will post as the girls fatten up! Love the grow show club 600. The puppie is cool isn't he, he's a bulldog staffie cross.Sounds like im lucky not to have a spider mite infestation.

 

[mcpurple]

wow ever one has mites. that sucks. it is eaier to prevent them to get rid of them, like always keeping a predator bug in the grow room, keeping you and who ever goes in the room clean, dont go to grow stores and ten into your grow room cuz alot of grow shops will have them. also the cold IMO really does not effect the mites unless it is like 15 degrees. here in oregon we get down to 20 witch is about average and i have this bugs that has had millions of mites all summer and since winter has been here they still saty i can go out and look at one inch leaf and spot at least 20.

I have had the best luck getting rid of mites with neem and lady bugs, both of these can be used to prevent them to.

 

[bassman999]

View attachment 1444606View attachment 1444607View attachment 1444608Hi 600 watters, Heres my ghs lemon skunk. 6 weeks or so and i will have some nice pics for ya all. Peace

Beautiful budz and bull dog pup!

 

[Dezracer]

Nobody commented on my post regarding MH light color temps so I ordered up the Growbright MH Conversin that's 6000K and puts out 72,000 lumens. Made the most sense to me so I went with it.

I was back and forth between this bulb and a Sunpulse 6400K MH but decided that since I don't know how long I'll be vegging to spend less money and get the growbright.

I may be going back to the idea of having no moms and just taking cuttings from the plants at about 2 weeks into flower for clones for the next batch. It'll take a cycle or two to get there but think I can make it work. I'll just keep a couple bubble cloners in the tents and veg the clones in the cloners for a week or two after rooting and then flower them. Thinking of having one cloner in a tent under flouro and another in the other tent under MH and once the clones are rooted, just swap the lids from the cloners to move the clones under the MH light. Something like that anyway.

I'm thinking of giving that setup that those guys are selling on ebay a try by building four small ones of my own and running 12 plants in each system. Just fill one up every two weeks and have a harvest every two weeks. Hopefully with a week or two of veg time I'll be able to get in the 3/4-1oz per plant mark and yield out 1/2-3/4lb.

I've ruled out all other options except trying to replicate Heath's flooded tube vertical grow. If I do that though, I'll do two octos and run half of each octo from it's own res so I can fill half of each every two weeks. Downside to this is plant count seeing as I'd have almost 200 plants going at some point and a batch of 50 or so clones. With the other I'll have 48 and a batch of 20 clones.

 

[bassman999]

That is a good question Marlowe. I was wondering where they would come from, or any other pest for that matter? Do they come already in the mediums we use or do they migrate into our gardens from outside? Also, do hydro setups deal with them? Which brings me to why I ask. If they do occur in hydro setups then I would have to conclude that they come from external sources. If this is the case, then the battle should be keeping them out first. A while back my dog got fleas. The only areas in my home with carpet are the two bedrooms and a rug in the living area but they were full of fleas, particularly the bedroom because he slept there. We would walk into the room and they'd be jumping on our legs. We did all the usual things to combat them, washing clothes and linens with hot dry cycles, cleaning, treating the dog, all of it, but as long as they were in the carpets we were sunk. Then I read about Boric Acid or Borax, which I believe Boric acid is derived from. It is a key ingredient in pesticides, retail and commercial, and is a natural substance mined in the U.S. One of the many characteristics of it is that it is attacks an insects exoskeleton and dehydrates them to death. And when 1 comes contact with it, they carry it to the rest. Anyway I got boric acid from the pharmacy and sprinkled in on the rugs and I swear, withing days, there were no more. We kept the dog out and treated him, which was much easier now. So now I keep some sprinkled around the perimeter of my tent. I then just bought Borax, under the trade name 20 Mule Team Borax, in your laundry detergent section.

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Is that boric acid safe to put in soil or close to the pots?

 

[shrigpiece]

Beautiful budz and blue nose pup!

Thanks bro, I saw your dog a couple pages back. Seems we both like meathead couch potatoes lol. Well mine is anyways

 

[bassman999]

Nobody commented on my post regarding MH light color temps so I ordered up the Growbright MH Conversin that's 6000K and puts out 72,000 lumens. Made the most sense to me so I went with it.

I was back and forth between this bulb and a Sunpulse 6400K MH but decided that since I don't know how long I'll be vegging to spend less money and get the growbright.

I may be going back to the idea of having no moms and just taking cuttings from the plants at about 2 weeks into flower for clones for the next batch. It'll take a cycle or two to get there but think I can make it work. I'll just keep a couple bubble cloners in the tents and veg the clones in the cloners for a week or two after rooting and then flower them. Thinking of having one cloner in a tent under flouro and another in the other tent under MH and once the clones are rooted, just swap the lids from the cloners to move the clones under the MH light. Something like that anyway.

I'm thinking of giving that setup that those guys are selling on ebay a try by building four small ones of my own and running 12 plants in each system. Just fill one up every two weeks and have a harvest every two weeks. Hopefully with a week or two of veg time I'll be able to get in the 3/4-1oz per plant mark and yield out 1/2-3/4lb.

I've ruled out all other options except trying to replicate Heath's flooded tube vertical grow. If I do that though, I'll do two octos and run half of each octo from it's own res so I can fill half of each every two weeks. Downside to this is plant count seeing as I'd have almost 200 plants going at some point and a batch of 50 or so clones. With the other I'll have 48 and a batch of 20 clones.

sorry for not replying on the light issue, but I know less than you prolly, hope you got the right one.

Thanks bro, I saw your dog a couple pages back. Seems we both like meathead couch potatoes lol. Well mine is anyways

My dog is just a big baby, he cant seem aggressive when the time comes though. My youngest daughter rides him etc....he is so mellow.

 

[shrigpiece]

Thats why i picked a bulldog breed. Good with kids i have a 4 year old daughter. He is pretty mellow but has bursts of mischief being a puppie.

 

[Dezracer]

Hi Guys. i´m going to invest in a 600w ballast + bulb. what do you guys think about awings vs. diamond reflector?

For me it just depends on if you need the cooling from an air cooled reflector or not. If not, go with a wing (cheaper and open bulbs tend to give better results) and if you're concerned with temps getting out of hand send a little more and get an air cooled reflector.

 

[Heads Up]

I'd be stoked to get 3oz per plant as I haven't hit that mark yet. Before trying the 12/12 from seed and from rooted clone I seemed to average a little better than 2oz per plant but haven't even had a 2oz plant since before that. I like the idea of harvesting many small single cola plants as there'd be less trimming I'd think. I just don't like the idea of having that many plants going all at once. This is why I told the dude I bought some of my equipment from no when he called offering me a smoking deal on two of those 60 site aero systems he was trying to sell. He had two of those and two EZ clone 120s or something like that.

Depending on how the strain yields I'm at the point if I'm growing in three gallon containers I expect to hit to z's per plant as an average. My sativa grow that I did lst style I hit four ounces with two plants and over three with two others. At one point in my 'in between' grow I had twenty three plants under lights and most were in half gallon grow bags, I found it to be a real pain in the arse taking care of that many plants. I have eight going now, two more than I really care to put under two lights in fairly big containers. I like to give my plants room to grow up and out and for me six plants is ideal. That way I feel like it's my hobby and not work.

 

[bassman999]

I for got who mentioned this product, but is this the right one?

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&productId=202072089&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&ci_sku=202072089&ci_src=14110944&cm_mmc=shopping-_-googlebase-_-D28X-_-202072089&locStoreNum=1846

I dont have any mites tight now (crosses fingers) but wanna be ready if those assholes retrurn!

 

[las fingerez]

greetings ladies and gents, havent posted for a while but been lurking in the background, amazing grows u lot

can my fellow 600 brothers show some love for the dr amber's thread?

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/408757-dr-amber-trichome-super-lemon.html

Las

edit - now an official member jus upgraded to the dimmable lumatec