Club 600

bassman999

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Contemplating the same thing. Have no MH bulbs but need to cover more area for veg for a while. Was considering using a 600W HPS to do it. I think they'll stretch but not sure on that.
I have heard the stretch thing as well. I dont want that.
How about a m/h bulb in a hps ballast? That would be bad too I suppose?
 

curious old fart

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The 600 will be fine for veg, particularly if you have a mh conversion bulb. I'm using one and the additional stretch is unnoticable.
Do not use a mh bulb in a hps ballast...something gonna break

:peace:
cof
 

bassman999

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If its a digital ballast you should be fine. With magnetic, they have to be switchblade to run both.
This is a not digital
The 600 will be fine for veg, particularly if you have a mh conversion bulb. I'm using one and the additional stretch is unnoticable.
Do not use a mh bulb in a hps ballast...something gonna break
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:peace:
cof
No conversion bulbs here
I use my 400 ballast to run MH and HPS and it is an old school magnetic. No harmful effects in the past 6 months...
Is it a mh or hps ballast?



I thi k I kight take this ballast apart and look for user replaceable parts, and or see if there is burned parts. Ill use the hps for the time being.
 

billcollector99

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Is it a mh or hps ballast?



I thi k I kight take this ballast apart and look for user replaceable parts, and or see if there is burned parts. Ill use the hps for the time being.
Its an HPS ballast, but i can throw the MH bulb in there and interchange them with no problems, but it is a magnetic ballast. I actually just stopped using it today though cause i got a hold of a digi ballast. I wish i had the funds for a 600 though.
 

duchieman

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My magnetic had an incident one morning trying to fire up a dual arc bulb. The ballast would clunk, try to fire the MH part of the bulb, spark and smell, and then kind of reset itself and kept trying till I shut it down. I thought it was the ballast but then I threw in my HPS bulb and not a problem since. Put in a new order for bulbs with the retailer along with an email mentioning the problem I had. Got a response sorta like what Dez got, only I just put in an order first (and they knew that). Said they were aware from other reports. Something to do with the burn out time difference between HPS and MH portions of bulbs and thank you very much Mr. Duchie for letting us know.
 

bassman999

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I just put up a 400 watt hps setup I had lying around. The mh 400 seemed sooo much brighter, must be the difference in light spectrum I guess. That or my 400 bulb is just old.

@Pukka...Beautiful cola man +rep
 

bassman999

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I opened up the ballast, didnt see anything fried or anything. The wires are a lil brittle from the heat though. The transformer/coil whatever looks hella old school though.
 

duchieman

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It will look like that. Nothing fancy about magnetic parts. I'm definitely going to replace it with digital but for the time being I should be putting it on a GFCI of some sort, and surge protection to help the bulb. Surge protection is more important for digital electronics, IMO.
 

Dezracer

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Surge protectors save timers from shorting out. I have yet to upgrade my timers to controllers and contactors and have have had a couple fail on me before hooking up surge protectors. Light controllers are a bit pricey too so I'll be using a mechanical timer or a contactor setup. They can be built inexpensively and work well in commercial applications so I think it would work just the same for hid lights. I'll use my timers for fans, pumps and stuff.
 
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