"An apology? Bah! Disgusting! Cowardly! Beneath the dignity of any gentleman, however wrong he might be."Sorry I was an asshole guys.
It takes character to apologize.
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Accepted, now lets move on.
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"An apology? Bah! Disgusting! Cowardly! Beneath the dignity of any gentleman, however wrong he might be."Sorry I was an asshole guys.
Sorry I was an asshole guys.
+Rep. Honorable thing to do.Sorry I was an asshole guys.
Sorry to get off topic but i have to say something about this because i can't have people thinking thats really what super cropping is. Unfortunately you are wrong sir, Super cropping is done in veg and usually up to about the third week of flower, this is because you reach a point of diminishing returns of the HST of pinching the shit out of your branches, they have to come back up after you pinch them and they start having trouble doing that the longer into flower you go because the plant starts concentrating less on regen of vegetative growth than of growth of the nugs. It does NOT most definately DOES NOT kill the buds off in any way shape or form. All you do when you pinch like that is effect the same thing as doing an LST except for the bennefit of where u pinched u get a fat knuckle that helps support the branches and buds more than if you had just tied the plant up with LST As for the branching effect you can get that with LST as well your just exposing lower nodes to more extreme amounts of light which makes them think they are top branches.I should have taken pictures before I chopped the bitch up, but I lay down my girls all the time by tying the top down with string, I'm finishing my last full fluro grow, so I always did that so the whole plant would get light, and doing so always produced several main colas. Its not like supercropping AT ALL, thats where you take a flowering plant and force it back into veg, which kills the bud it was making, but after about a month of nothing it starts branching like something from a horror flick, only its a good thing...Not like topping either, because your not cutting anything off, though I did that on accident, it has three main colas. The one I just layed down I think had around 7. I chopped her because I sampled it and realized I hate the way Full Moon taste. It has a perfumy taste that I could probably grow to like, but it also has this strong piney note I just can't stand. Not to mention I was already getting to the point of hating long flowering times, hence why next grow I'm trying out full indica's...Yea, sorry for the rambling, off to nap now, hope that helped some...
What you describe is correct, BUT, it's not called Super Cropping.Kaptain, their was an entire thread done on it that said the contrary, which is where I got my info, my deepest apologies. They were suggesting around 21 days into flowering forcing back into veg which creates massive branching, but the buds that were originally forming when doing that do in fact die off, as has been confirmed by darkdestruction (he's apparently been doing it for sometime...)
I know. Some I've been doing for years. Never heard it called anything specific until I got on the internet about them.†L† yea I dug back to find the thread I was referencing, my bad, they called it monster cropping....honest mistake....why don't they ever give these tech normal names...like "reveg" or something simple?
Hey Jack, good to see ya. PH? Well, like you, I have 6.8 water(35 PPM from the tap) to work with, which is very convenient. I've looked at lots of PH charts, and many have slight differences, but nothing major. It does appear that you want to be between 6.0 and 7.0, if you don't wanna run into problems, but other than that, there's no real answer, as to what 'perfect PH' is, IMO. After looking at all those charts, I've found that 6.8 is the PH that the big three(NPK), become most available at, with magnesium and calcium, still available, but to a lesser degree. The other micros are at no disadvantage, at 6.8. At any rate, none of them are close to being locked, which to me, is most important. What I like to do, is to keep everything at 6.8,(soil too) for the most part, with an occasional 6.5-6.6 feeding, every month or so. That's something I've been playing with, in an attempt to keep Mg and Ca levels 'up to par' within the plants. Actually, it probably has no effect at all, but I do it anyway, just because.lolMr. jaw,
I was wondering if I could get you to elaborate on your "ph" testing program. Do you have a soil ph test meter? And if so, which make/model?
As your grow has progressed have you noticed any tendencies for your MG potting mix to get either more alkaline or more acidic? And what ph range would you prefer it to be in?
Right now the only ph testing I can do is with a basic aquarium testing kit. And since that depends on a color comparison to a chart I think that for accuracies sake that's pretty much limited to testing clear water. Pretty much anything you add to the water when you want to feed (ferts/nutes, molasses, etc.) gives it a color change which I think would throw off the accuracy of this kind of ph testing. And since the run off from when you water with these things isn't usually very clear I can't see it being very accurate for checking the ph of that either.
I'm at day 110 of a grow in standard MG potting mix (that's had around 10 to 15% extra perlite and vermiculite added to it). I know the rain water I'm using has a ph of 6.8. Yesterday when watering a plant with some of this "straight" rain water (nothing else added to it) I noticed that the run off out of the bottom of the pot was extremely clear so I decided to test it with my aquarium ph test kit. It tested at 7.0.
I've heard that MG potting soil was extremely good at buffering ph and not letting it swing to far either way from 7.0 and this seems to bear that out. On the other hand from my reading it seems that maybe a slightly more acidic soil ph (say down around 6.5) might be a better ph enviroment for cannabis to grow in because it would facilitate nutrient up take and help avoid the "locking out" of some things.
What are your thoughts in this area?
Jack
†LHFAO† I knew it, I knew it couldn't be helped. Without any facts, test, or basis of reason a ff user wouldn't accept the fact that mg outperformed ff. As far as "chemical baddies" people have been growing food in mg for years with no ill effect, why all of a sudden in mj is it going to kill me again? Accept it tyke, mg outperformed your precious fox farm.Dude why are you wasteing your time and risking possible prosecution by doing this grow, we all know that mj has it's place in growing but just not cannabis cultivation there is far to many chemicle baddies in there for any serious grower to even consider useing.I personaly think that ff/bio bizz are thr only two soil's that are any good all though i have mixed my own to great success,But by the time you have bought all the stuff that is in bio bizz it work's out cheaper to get b/bizz or fox farm.If you want to experiment by grafting more than one strain on to a main mother or even re generate a plant back into veg after flowering it.Both method's will be far more beneficial to yr growing armer..........tyke````````
that made me laugh, probably 'cause I'm tired and baked...but it was still funny....... Actually, it probably has no effect at all, but I do it anyway, just because.lol
I agree with you on that one usually ill take a harvest off of it and re veg and then mother it for a while and then flower it again lol makes it super beast specially if your outside and you have a lot of room to play with†LOL† We're waiting on updated anyways... Actually, Kron, I think your missing a valuable alternative use to that method, for me, it seems like a good way to make a mother. Rather than do it 21 days into flowering, wait till she's done, and just like nature, give it another spring then keep her in veg from then on to clone from it. I know they say the clones aren't as potent, but I've never heard that from anyone thats made practice of it, they've always said it came out the same, just more to clone. But as far as using it as a method to harvest, I do have to agree with you, namely because you've already spent however long you chose on veg, then another 21 days into flowering, then when you throw it back to veg I understand it doesn't do shit for a month, thats a full month you've wasted, then however long you want to give it after that month to actually do the mad branching, probably another month, when you start flowering again, your like 3 months in the hole. If your were playing with full indica's, you would have already cropped the first harvest, and be halfway done with your second and thats just when you started flowering the monster, thats not even including the extra 2 months still left in flowering.
†L† Sorry Jaw....we're just waiting on you...
oh,and whats this about testing the mg nutes next?which ones? Seriously, after that, find like maybe 2 more experiments involving mg and something else, then compile all four and write a book about it and publish it. Put it in your sig, bet you people would buy it...(hell, I'd buy a copy)