FrigiDare 2 Indica's Infrared Spectrum Trial

[bigman4270]

The ladies look awesome brother. Everything else looks spot on. Nice and clean.

 

[ElectricPineapple]

im assuming you made those ballasts? those are very clean looking if so. great setup and the plants look great

 

[Danielsgb]

Thanks guys. I like everything clean and there is a method to my madness. In the back of my mind, I realize I can have an M.S. attack, and I could be blind for a time. If that actually happens, I would need to explain 'what does what' to the Hippie Gardener. She knows plants but not how these complicated pieces work together. Not to be a bummer, but it has to be somewhat taken into account even as slight a chance as it is. Kinda like remembering that an earthquake can knock stuff over if you live on a fault line.
Daniels

 

[Danielsgb]

I forgot to mention, yea the Ballast/Timer is my own design. My build journal has it.
#4 Cleo got a 1/4 tsp./gal of Pro-teKt today.

 

[gumball]

Well let's hope that don't happen, but you have everything in as best of order as could be expected. So can you make it rain now that you have drainage in the one fridge? Wasn't that the reason you didn't make it rain because you didn't want to move them around a bunch and the run off was a bitch?

 

[Illumination]

Thanks guys. I like everything clean and there is a method to my madness. In the back of my mind, I realize I can have an M.S. attack, and I could be blind for a time. If that actually happens, I would need to explain 'what does what' to the Hippie Gardener. She knows plants but not how these complicated pieces work together. Not to be a bummer, but it has to be somewhat taken into account even as slight a chance as it is. Kinda like remembering that an earthquake can knock stuff over if you live on a fault line.
Daniels

Pulls up chair...lights a bowl and watches intently......

You go Dapper DIY Dan

Namaste'

 

[Danielsgb]

Well let's hope that don't happen, but you have everything in as best of order as could be expected. So can you make it rain now that you have drainage in the one fridge? Wasn't that the reason you didn't make it rain because you didn't want to move them around a bunch and the run off was a bitch?

I plan on trying that with the Purple Rain in here eventually. I think with it, I'm gonna be running more plants in the pot I veg in normally. More pheno-types to wade through. We haven't even talked about the Isis strain I have. So more, but smaller is in order. It's about a gallon. So 3 gal. a plant I can deal with. These are 4 gal. so 12 is too much. I wasn't planning on draining out that bottom, just in case. Now I can dump the waste water out the garage door too.

Pulls up chair...lights a bowl and watches intently......

You go Dapper DIY Dan

Namaste'

Glad to have you along. Should be fun.
The H.G. is already planning fall shit for me to do to get to make a 'RiddleMe Fermentation Chamber'. She thanks you RM3, BTW.
Daniels

 

[Killface]

thats amazing. so by using Far red light during part of the plants light period, still lets them be in flowering while using say a 14/10 photoperiod during flower? hmmm i may have to try this.

Im subbed to this grow haha.

Ive always used 14/10 indoors.I start with a Hit oh Poweder KoolBloom at about half strength right before i induce a 24 hour dark period. Then when they wake up I keep them at 14 hours. But also to acheive this, the veg period must be kept at 24 hours. This is so the veg and flower period differance is so great that plant expects it to be fall and time to flower. If you were running 18/6 the differance may not be enough and will just get confused. Also a side note, the kool bloom is to kick start the flowering with High P and K levels, pretty much telling the plant to get its ass up and start making me my bud! My yeilds were almost double what by partner was doing using the exact same set up. However, Do not Do not Do not Interrupt their dark periods or try pushing it past the 14 hours of light, this is pushing it already and may revert back to veg. I took this from the principles of outdoor growing, which is my main area of expertise. Outdoors, especially around here, never reaches 12 hours of darkness, at the most on the darkest day it will reach 13. So why dont the same principles apply indoors? The answer is...it does. Oh and not to ramble, ive heard rumor of someone flowering on a 12/6 schedual. so instead of running 24 hour days they only run 18. 12 light, 6 dark, 12 light, 6 dark and so on. Flowering is cut from 8 to 10 weeks to almost 5. I know this because there was a guy around here Pumping out pounds and pounds of fire in no time flat. This is the routine he claimed. Ive never seen it myself but this is what he told me.

 

[Danielsgb]

Ive always used 14/10 indoors.I start with a Hit oh Poweder KoolBloom at about half strength right before i induce a 24 hour dark period. Then when they wake up I keep them at 14 hours. But also to achieve this, the veg period must be kept at 24 hours. This is so the veg and flower period difference is so great that plant expects it to be fall and time to flower. If you were running 18/6 the difference may not be enough and will just get confused. Also a side note, the kool bloom is to kick start the flowering with High P and K levels, pretty much telling the plant to get its ass up and start making me my bud! My yields were almost double what by partner was doing using the exact same set up. However, Do not Do not Do not Interrupt their dark periods or try pushing it past the 14 hours of light, this is pushing it already and may revert back to veg. I took this from the principles of outdoor growing, which is my main area of expertise. Outdoors, especially around here, never reaches 12 hours of darkness, at the most on the darkest day it will reach 13. So why don't the same principles apply indoors? The answer is...it does. Oh and not to ramble, I've heard rumor of someone flowering on a 12/6 schedule. so instead of running 24 hour days they only run 18. 12 light, 6 dark, 12 light, 6 dark and so on. Flowering is cut from 8 to 10 weeks to almost 5. I know this because there was a guy around here Pumping out pounds and pounds of fire in no time flat. This is the routine he claimed. Ive never seen it myself but this is what he told me.

Great to have you along. I heard of an 18hr day, but don't know of anyone's experiment. I also heard of the reverse of light/dark. with the claim the plant does all it needs to in 6 hrs. Obviously skeptical on that one.
I have the digital timers to try that, just not enough space for more experiments. So many ideas to try, I'm getting pulled all over. This sounds like a Trial for the Fridge, not this Freezer.
Growing Outdoors this summer made me respect the heartiness of these plants. 4 Hale storms, 1 tornado near by and they are doing good. Tough little bastard (not little anymore) Feel free to comment all you want and give advice.
Daniels

 

[Danielsgb]

thats amazing. so by using Far red light during part of the plants light period, still lets them be in flowering while using say a 14/10 photoperiod during flower? hmmm i may have to try this.

Im subbed to this grow haha.

I missed this one while adding the cloning and old pics. sry.
From what I get you can use the 2hrs. with Full Blue spectrum after there is no Red.
"When the red light ends it takes the inactive form (which doesn’t promote flowering) about two hours to change over to the active form."
Then you get 2 more hrs. of photosynthesis while it becomes active. Hope I get this right.
Daniels

 

[Killface]

I would think it works on the principle of tricking the plant into an 18 hour day. It thinks the day only last 18 hours becuase of the day and nights being in the progression they are in. Ive tried it, and it seems to work, i just cant afford an experiament like that which may not pay off.

 

[gumball]

I agree with ya killface. If a plant has only known one set light/dark schedule they will live with it. They have no knowledge of the suns light/dark schedule, so they only care with what they know. Basically, I don't believe plants are genetically set to work on a 24 hour schedule.

 

[riddleme]

I agree with ya killface. If a plant has only known one set light/dark schedule they will live with it. They have no knowledge of the suns light/dark schedule, so they only care with what they know. Basically, I don't believe plants are genetically set to work on a 24 hour schedule.

niether are we

 

[Danielsgb]

I agree with ya killface. If a plant has only known one set light/dark schedule they will live with it. They have no knowledge of the suns light/dark schedule, so they only care with what they know. Basically, I don't believe plants are genetically set to work on a 24 hour schedule.

You had me till the Blue. If they only know one schedule I can see them adapting. The Earth has been at that 24 hrs. for millions of years. The genetics of Cannabis have yet to be mapped, and stuff I'm reading talks about a strain's genetics altering to suit the local environment. They still don't know a lot about how tons of plants actually grow. Genetically, I think they know. We alter a lot from their normal environment, growing under these lights for starts. Can a seed know if it's dead winter outside? I've read from people who think so. Very interesting stuff. This 18hr. day could be cool.
Daniels

 

[gumball]

I guess that could speak to hermies, a little. MAybe hermies are the strains that refuse to conform to something other than there genetics tell them.

I think I could really pull that statement off as true, but it is my opinion.

And your right daniels, humans have a small understanding of the entire large world around them, plants included (no offense riddleme, your small understanding is just larger than others )

Its these thoughts though that make us want to experiment. And from there we get the answers we desire.

 

[gumball]

Anyone have a newborn baby we can raise on a 36 hour day???

 

[Danielsgb]

I guess that could speak to hermies, a little. MAybe hermies are the strains that refuse to conform to something other than there genetics tell them.

I think I could really pull that statement off as true, but it is my opinion.

And your right daniels, humans have a small understanding of the entire large world around them, plants included (no offense riddleme, your small understanding is just larger than others )

Its these thoughts though that make us want to experiment. And from there we get the answers we desire.

As RiddleMe has posted light leaks are over-blamed for hermie's. So many stressors can do it.
So if a strain is back-crossed under an 18hr. day for several generations could a 5 week flowering get even better under it's adapted day? Then compare it to an IBL you back-cross as a control. So I guess it would be a several year project. If I can only get a damn warehouse. Cool stuff.
This is the point of this whole FrigiDare. I want to try a different IR timing next. If this is a UV-B blast at both 'sunrise' & 'sunset', next try a UV-B Blast for 'noon'. The equator has the highest UV rays near noon. then add the 'sunset' for damage to heal overnight.
Daniels

 

[Danielsgb]

Here's a pic update. #3 is looking ready for a SilikaMajic. I thought tomorrow, but today it is looking droopy lower down. Leaves look a bit different, but maybe I'm just baked. No heat stress yet. Added a couple Wooden dowels for later.
Daniels
3mL Silikamajic/gal for Nikki II

 

[Illumination]

Am really interested in the FF nutes and how they perform....anything to disclose as of yet?

Namaste'

ps-looks gorgeous to me

 

[gumball]

yeah, i dont see anything droopy either, maybe a couple burnt leaves still from the 400 chewing them a new one! but otherwise very lush