My Growitup Greenhouse Grow 2010

IAm5toned

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i just had a brilliant flash of insight.

i wonder how the SantaCRuzOGkush

would do SCROG'd... lol... scuse me, i think im just a trifl stoned.
 

cruzer101

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haha too much plant in the GH so u gotta take shots outside now? lol keep it up cruz
Dude, yea. Its a bit tight in there.

At least they're budding and the stretch should be about done.
I hope so. Time to start stacking, I can deal with about another 6 inches or so.

looking very nice cruzer, very nice!!
Man, I'm lovin it. thanks for hangin out.

hell yeah they are!
I second that! or is it third?

i just had a brilliant flash of insight.

i wonder how the SantaCRuzOGkush

would do SCROG'd... lol... scuse me, i think im just a trifl stoned.
Ha!
Yea, I did take some clones for the cab a while back, I think it was from her. No roots yet.
Seems some strains take longer to root then others using the sprayers. They are all still green too.
 

cruzer101

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So like yesterday I bought a 3 stage R/O with an airgap faucet off craigslist.
Its still in the box. She bought it a year ago and couldnt get anyone to hook it up so I bought it for $100

I looked at the instructions for a couple hours last night and still cant figure out how to bypass the storage tank and the faucet. I would assume you just take the line going to the storage tank and run that to a res with a float valve. It looks like it already has a shutoff valve. I guess I will try again today before I get stoned. Anyone here know about these things? Its an American plummer type. Model # WRO-3167​
 

cruzer101

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Thanks bud, Yea, I need to do more training today. I wish I could just take off all the top panels and let them go.


This R/o has got me stiumped though. looks like the line comes from a water supply through a sediment filter then through a valve, then the ro membraine then to the storage tank, when you open the faucet the wayer comes back out of the storage tank, through the charcoal filter then to the faucet. Seems like the system needs the storage tank to work.








If I am right how the hell am I gonna hook this to a res.​
 

gumball

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it will probably be a better line of protection to have the tank. what you can do is run it from the storage tank to a faucet or something of the sort, but somehow connect the float valve in your rez to the faucet or "something" that the float valve can cut on and off.

does that make sense? basically switch out the faucet for something your float valve can control. you may have to increase or decrease the tube size from the storage tank to this unnamed device, but i would think it could be done.

sounds like another 2 hour stoned trip to the depot for ideas!!!! good luck, you built that green house so you'll have this thing licked in no time!!
 

Hulk Nugs

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Working on the same thing my self cruzer. I already have mine setup and i just now want to switch it over to how your thinking bigger RO tank then the one we got with the system. Only problem i am seeing is the pressure on mine goes way down when i try to just shutoff the tank and go from the Intake water line to the RO faucet. My conclusions and i fucking hope i am wrong but its only going to work good with the metal tank that came with the system and how ever much that holds is going to be your max you can get at one time before the metal tank can fill back up. Then you can just empty it into your bigger Self made RO tank with Float valve, still not sure how that would work out the shutting off of the New tank filling so the Metal tank could fill back up all is manual work in my head lmao and that's not helping really just a headache.

Cant wait to hear your ideas on it cruzer after you have been able to work with it.
 

Murfy

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without looking at the manual-

RO.JPG

the valve has to be a check valve of some sort to eliminate siphoning?

eliminate the tee, and the tank. use an elbow at that joint instead. still pressurized but without the reserve. uninstall the sillcock from the end and put a float at the end.

these don't produce much water do they? the small tank is the same as an r/o res. so if your demand is more than what is readily available from the unit you're covered.

i can't remember if you run an r/o res or just one for nutes, but one would seemlike a good idea. just change the tanks. where the tank is on the unit now, just change it to a larger sealed vessel. like those six gallon buckets with the screw on gasketed lids.

bulkhead fittings would be a good idea for putting nipples on a bucket. they make them threaded or slip on.
bulkhead.jpg
 

Integra21

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Thanks bud, Yea, I need to do more training today. I wish I could just take off all the top panels and let them go.


This R/o has got me stiumped though. looks like the line comes from a water supply through a sediment filter then through a valve, then the ro membraine then to the storage tank, when you open the faucet the wayer comes back out of the storage tank, through the charcoal filter then to the faucet. Seems like the system needs the storage tank to work.








If I am right how the hell am I gonna hook this to a res.​
Its actually very simple. Just go buy a press fit "t" from the local hardware store, they cost about $5, and hook the res fill(green) and sink RO line(blue) together and then run a line from the open port on the t to the float valve in your res. Then just drain into a drain or where ever you want and hook up the supply line. Turn on the water and let it fill your res. Check ppms of the water to verify operation. Hope this helps.
 

cruzer101

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Working on the same thing my self cruzer. I already have mine setup and i just now want to switch it over to how your thinking bigger RO tank then the one we got with the system. Only problem i am seeing is the pressure on mine goes way down when i try to just shutoff the tank and go from the Intake water line to the RO faucet. My conclusions and i fucking hope i am wrong but its only going to work good with the metal tank that came with the system and how ever much that holds is going to be your max you can get at one time before the metal tank can fill back up. Then you can just empty it into your bigger Self made RO tank with Float valve, still not sure how that would work out the shutting off of the New tank filling so the Metal tank could fill back up all is manual work in my head lmao and that's not helping really just a headache.

Cant wait to hear your ideas on it cruzer after you have been able to work with it.
Yup, I hear ya man. I read the metal tank is preasurised 6 to 8 lbs. The way I got it figured is it needs presure to push water up and get an even flow out of the faucet. I dont need that, I just want it to drip into a res through a float valve.

without looking at the manual-

View attachment 1098069

the valve has to be a check valve of some sort to eliminate siphoning?

eliminate the tee, and the tank. use an elbow at that joint instead. still pressurized but without the reserve. uninstall the sillcock from the end and put a float at the end.

these don't produce much water do they? the small tank is the same as an r/o res. so if your demand is more than what is readily available from the unit you're covered.

i can't remember if you run an r/o res or just one for nutes, but one would seemlike a good idea. just change the tanks. where the tank is on the unit now, just change it to a larger sealed vessel. like those six gallon buckets with the screw on gasketed lids.

bulkhead fittings would be a good idea for putting nipples on a bucket. they make them threaded or slip on.
View attachment 1098168
Thanks murfy, Yea That is what I had in mind, well just crimping the green line. Almost the same deal. but I think that valve needs some back presure to close the intake. No, it doesn't make a lot of water, just a couple gallons a day. I use about 15 gallons a week in the cab grow. My water supply is here at the green house. I plan on installing the r/o here at the GH and run a line to the cabs, (about 200 feet) If it makes enough I will try adding a second res here at the GH to go hydro for winter and spring harvests.

Its actually very simple. Just go buy a press fit "t" from the local hardware store, they cost about $5, and hook the res fill(green) and sink RO line(blue) together and then run a line from the open port on the t to the float valve in your res. Then just drain into a drain or where ever you want and hook up the supply line. Turn on the water and let it fill your res. Check ppms of the water to verify operation. Hope this helps.
THATS what I was looking for!
I had a feeling there was a simple fix. So remove the tank from the picture, and after the tee thats there already, install a second tee connecting green to blue then come off that to a res. I dont understand how it's gonna work. It seems to me I would get a mix of water, 1/2 thats been though the charcoal filter (blue line) and half that hasn't (green line) but I trust your words man. I'll go get one today and try it.
 

Integra21

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Thanks bud, Yea, I need to do more training today. I wish I could just take off all the top panels and let them go.


This R/o has got me stiumped though. looks like the line comes from a water supply through a sediment filter then through a valve, then the ro membraine then to the storage tank, when you open the faucet the wayer comes back out of the storage tank, through the charcoal filter then to the faucet. Seems like the system needs the storage tank to work.








If I am right how the hell am I gonna hook this to a res.​
Yup, I hear ya man. I read the metal tank is preasurised 6 to 8 lbs. The way I got it figured is it needs presure to push water up and get an even flow out of the faucet. I dont need that, I just want it to drip into a res through a float valve.



Thanks murfy, Yea That is what I had in mind, well just crimping the green line. Almost the same deal. but I think that valve needs some back presure to close the intake. No, it doesn't make a lot of water, just a couple gallons a day. I use about 15 gallons a week in the cab grow. My water supply is here at the green house. I plan on installing the r/o here at the GH and run a line to the cabs, (about 200 feet) If it makes enough I will try adding a second res here at the GH to go hydro for winter and spring harvests.



THATS what I was looking for!
I had a feeling there was a simple fix. So remove the tank from the picture, and after the tee thats there already, install a second tee connecting green to blue then come off that to a res. I dont understand how it's gonna work. It seems to me I would get a mix of water, 1/2 thats been though the charcoal filter (blue line) and half that hasn't (green line) but I trust your words man. I'll go get one today and try it.
I went through all the same shit when I put mine in(I use the same sink version). To put it simply, there are basically 2 ro lines. The tank line that fills when water isnt being used, and the ro line that drains ro water from the tank and when the tank is empty it dribbles water strait from the filter. You can just cap off the tank line, but its hard to find caps. Its a lot easier to just "T" it in with the main ro line. You should have a ppm of 5-30, so make sure you check when its all setup. An make sure you dont have the drain line hooked into your ro line(thats what I accidentally did when I first hooked mine up. That must be ran to a drain or into your yard or something. And jsut as a heads up, these kind of ro's have a rediculously low flow rate(mine's 10gal a day)so if your trying to fill a 20gal res, expect it to take 2 days.
 

cruzer101

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Right on bud, I was hoping someone here would have done this already. Thats cool you happen to have the same one.
Like you I wont need a lot of water, 10 gal a day is good to know, I will plan on a second res for the GH. I figure I use about 15 a week in the cabs and i'm guessing 20 gal a week for hydro in the GH. So this will put out about 70 gal a week, more than enough. I just got back from the store and I'm setting it up today, gonna fill a 5 gal bucket to test it. For the drain do you think I need an airgap? I am going to try a gravity feed by mounting the system about 5 feet off the ground. It will travel down 5 feet then up 2 mounted against the sub floor of the house, then down 1 into the shower drain.

Thanks again man.
 

cruzer101

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First test results:
I ran it for an hour collecting the waste water as well as the pure.
I got 5 gallons of waste water and a gallon of pure, well 20 PPM.
Im stoked. Now I gotta plumb it to the cabs.
 

gumball

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so for every gallon of pure water 5 gallons are lost? can you use the waste for anything, like water the lawn, or wash the cars?
 

cruzer101

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Yea thats about right. 1 to 5
The waste water is full of brine and isnt good for anything from what I understand. I wouldnt water my lawn with it but maybe wash a car cause soft water is full of salt. Who knows? I'm just happy I got it run to a drain.

Now I got a float valve in a res to see if when the float closes and the water stops it closes the intake and stops the waste line. I dont want this thing running all the time.
 

Hulk Nugs

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Yea thats about right. 1 to 5
The waste water is full of brine and isnt good for anything from what I understand. I wouldnt water my lawn with it but maybe wash a car cause soft water is full of salt. Who knows? I'm just happy I got it run to a drain.

Now I got a float valve in a res to see if when the float closes and the water stops it closes the intake and stops the waste line. I dont want this thing running all the time.
Thanks for the updated info cruz!!

Not to good on reading and understanding as compared to seeing or doing to understanding whats going on. If you could give us a pic break down on what you did fuk man i would really appreciate it and maybe others.

I was just going to say fuk the RO faucet by the sink and make that my main line to my RO diy tank 20 gallons, it would only fill up 3 gallons with great to poor pressure at the end of the 3 gallons but i know every hour to hour and half would give me 1 gallon of RO With in 7 hours i could get decent pressure to my first but not so good to my third gallons of water and i would just play my RO tank fill schedule to that.

Just kinda wanted to get your input on my idea since you have it setup already.
 

cruzer101

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Dude, if you say fuc the r/o on the sink what are you going to be drinking and making ice with? I donk know man, maybe check craigslist an find another one.


The best way to explain what I did and what will probably work for you is to go without a storage tank or faucet. Look at what you got now, the line to the storage tank cut and put in one side of a tee thats the green line in the pic.













Then take the blue line to the faucet and plug it in the other side of the tee. Come off the Tee to a float valve in a res. The red line is the waste line. You could just leave yours connected.









In the pic the float valve is too low, Im gonna move it up but the hole was already there. I have used this res several different ways.
 
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