Proposition 8 Overturned: Gay Marriage Ban Ruled Unconstitutional

nathenking

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The Right to obtain happiness is intrinsic to this nation.... If it is someones happiness to sexualy orient themselves in any direction, who am I to tell them NO???
 

Padawanbater2

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i don't think porn arousal is a very "scientific" method of study. sorry.
It shows homosexual males become aroused by seeing homosexual stimulation. What conclusion could be more clear?

Can't you guys see it from a homosexuals perspective? Exactly the same way that you get turned on by seeing a sexy person of the opposite sex, they do of the same sex, they don't choose it, it's natural.

What kind of study can you come up with that would be more scientific?
 

Merowe

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i don't think porn arousal is a very "scientific" method of study. sorry.
The use of pornography in scientific studies relating to sexuality has been common practice since at least the 1960s. By all means challenge the scientific orthodoxy but you'll need some empirical support.
 

Patrick Bateman

Active Member
It is hilarious when people speak about upbringing in a traditional man and wife home as if that union is flawless

What's the divorce rate in the United States again?

Also, the Bill of Rights is a very undemocratic document

No matter what the majority believe, those are the fundamental rights afforded to humans

The idea that the basic right to be married to the person that you love could be subjected to a vote is laughable
 

fdd2blk

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It shows homosexual males become aroused by seeing homosexual stimulation. What conclusion could be more clear?

Can't you guys see it from a homosexuals perspective? Exactly the same way that you get turned on by seeing a sexy person of the opposite sex, they do of the same sex, they don't choose it, it's natural.

What kind of study can you come up with that would be more scientific?
i'm not here making any claims so it's not up to me to come up with anything. ;)
 

patlpp

New Member
It shows homosexual males become aroused by seeing homosexual stimulation. What conclusion could be more clear?

Can't you guys see it from a homosexuals perspective? Exactly the same way that you get turned on by seeing a sexy person of the opposite sex, they do of the same sex, they don't choose it, it's natural.

What kind of study can you come up with that would be more scientific?
Does a homo get turned on looking at his own wiener ?
 

R2F

Active Member
"ahem"

separate but equal anyone?

its unconstitutional to do that

my 2 cents : a person or group of people have no right to tell another person / group of people how they should live their lives

also, if your the type of person who doesnt want gays to get married, because YOU dont like it, are the most selfish types of people
It's not separate but equal if you REMOVE marriage from the laws. The government shouldn't be involved with Marriage period. Everyone, straight or gay, gets civil unions. If you want to get married, join a church.

By doing this, gays get the same thing as straights, and you get rid of the marriage debate in 1 fell swoop.
 

nathenking

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A funny fact: 10% of every race, country and gender is gay.... You can pick any city in the world, and 10% of its population will be gay, no matter the race or religion or area of the world.... obviously there might be a plus/minus 2 or 3 points on those figures but it is true... Another funny fact: 10% of animals that suxeually reproduce are also gay.... So tell me how this is not as natural as nature itself...
 

SouthernGanja

Active Member
Traditional marriages have a divorce rate of 50%. I say let the homosexuals in on all the fun that comes with divorce.

If you are against homosexuals adopting kids then you are ignorant of the horrible foster care system where kids are abused, neglected, exposed to violence and drugs, etc etc.
 

Keenly2

Active Member
Traditional marriages have a divorce rate of 50%. I say let the homosexuals in on all the fun that comes with divorce.

If you are against homosexuals adopting kids then you are ignorant of the horrible foster care system where kids are abused, neglected, exposed to violence and drugs, etc etc.
careful now, rational debate on the subject is not allowed
 

fdd2blk

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Does a homo get turned on looking at his own wiener ?
about as practical as the porn test, yet they tell YOU to grow up. :roll:












still No weddings, ...... :(


http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/08/12/walker-lifts-stay-on-prop-8-ruling-gay-marriages-to-resume-next-week/

This just in: San Francisco Federal Judge Vaughn Walker on Thursday lifted the stay on his ruling from last week, in which he found that Proposition 8 is unconstitutional.
One caveat: Walker extended a temporary stay until August 18, in order to give Proposition 8 supporters — and the defendants in the case — time to appeal the ruling to the Ninth Circuit. So gay marriage cannot yet resume in the Golden State. Click here for the LA Times article.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and state Atty. Gen. Jerry Brown had urged Walker to permit same-sex marriages to resume, arguing the state was well-equipped to handle them.
In weighing whether to put a ruling on hold, judges consider the likelihood that higher courts would uphold their ruling and whether irreparable harm would be caused by a postponement.
 

abe23

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Weddings are next week...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10956033

12 August 2010 Last updated at 15:58 ET Share this pageFacebookTwitterShareEmailPrint
California same-sex marriages 'can resume' next week

Supporters in California celebrated a ruling last week that overturned the state's gay marriage ban
A US judge who overturned California's same-sex marriage ban has ruled gay nuptials may resume on 18 August.

Judge Vaughn Walker overturned the ban, known as Proposition 8, last week. Its proponents asked for a stay pending their appeal against his ruling.

His latest decision follows calls from Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and California Attorney General Jerry Brown for gay weddings to resume.

The measure had been passed by voters in the state in 2008.

Judge Walker overturned Proposition 8 in a 136-page decision, saying it unconstitutionally discriminated against same-sex couples who sought to wed.

Supporters of the ban, who argue it was created to protect the traditional idea of marriage, were quick to file an appeal against that decision.

At first Judge Walker suspended the resumption of same-sex marriages until he could hear arguments on whether to stay the ruling.

But on Thursday he ruled: "Defendants and all persons under their control or supervision shall cease to apply or enforce Proposition 8" on 18 August at 1700 local time (0000 GMT).

Rights 'violated'
The 2008 ballot measure, which came only months after the California Supreme Court legalised same-sex unions, amended the state's constitution to say that "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognised in California".

It was passed in a ballot referendum by a vote of 52% to 48%.

Two same-sex couples originally challenged the measure, saying it breached their right to equal protection under the US constitution.

They said the ban violated gays' and lesbians' right to choose whom to marry while allowing that right to heterosexuals.
 
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