Also depending on how many people they have working the op, I can't help but think quality will suffer.
Wholesale LB prices have been going down. Dispensary owners are just making a higher profit per lb now.
dispensaries are making a higher profit off its outdoor or organic grown buds , but growers are still getting their money for properly grown indoor. Off the subject though, this discussion is about whether or not legalizing mmj is beneficial or not. How does the price of "wholesale LBS" going down a tit bit benefit the average soon to be recreational stoner? Its not like you or i could buy a large number of pounds at discounted rate with the intentions of selling them for a profit because its clear under the new bill that that would be illegal for the average Joe. You must not be the average Joe
Yeah, that's pretty much true.
Maybe you're right. But we don't know for sure either way I guess. Time will tell.
of course this all completely speculation, but cops losing their jobs over this....... DOUBT IT! they'll have to appoint a task force like the gang task force or the dea to enforce this LAW as its written cause people won't obey it. And for the illegal immigrants that grow stress in california or bring it across the border, why would they stop? it would be legal. higher demand right? plus stress is cheap and the government taxes. Now we can all agree that even law abiding citizen avoid paying a tax whenever possible. So I wonder how much time or fine they're handing out to people for buying off the streets AFTER this bill passes? Decrimilization you think if this passes? They're throwing everyone in jail that steps across the line just like it is now. And if you don't believe that...... your not familiar with life in cali.
That is what I was thinking would be a consequence to this bill. I see this happening to an insane degree and it scares me that the media will portray these people as criminals. As I see it, medical marijuana patients will be forced to either grow their two plants that could fit into the bills proposed area for growing per property or they have to get their meds from the licensed and probably more taxed dispensaries where insurance will not cover the cost of medicine and patients will be paying out of pocket. What about the sicker patients? The ones who use cannabis in heavy amounts in order to live functioning lives? I'm thinking that medical patients who are in greater need will be spending all their money on this multiple-taxed drug by the government and if they really need their meds and can no longer afford to pay the higher prices of government regulated Cannabis and cannot grow enough on their private property then they will be looking in other, less expensive, and illegal ways to get their medicine. For this, as long as the prices of illegal marijuana are kept below the prices of government marijuana, I see the black market still thriving. For all "smart shoppers," I see law enforcement locking them up for buying their weed illegally. I see the media portraying these people as criminals when they have no other options of getting the drugs they need at prices they can afford.
so are you saying people wont be able to get a recommendation from a doctor and be able to posses bigger amounts??????
you will still be able to grow as many plants as your doctor recommends in as big of an area as you need and not get taxed for it.
I'm afraid there is no guarantee for this as I'm finding the language of the bill to be deceiving.
On what planet will they legalize ANY substance with no restrictions?We need unrestricted legalization
Yes there is. Prop 19 has nothing to do with medical law. It is about recreational use.
The streets is fed up.We need unrestricted legalization
Myth #2: The initiative will keep young adults out of jail for using marijuana.
Fact: This initiative would put more young people in jail for pot. If it becomes law, any adult 21 or over who passes a joint to another ADULT aged 18-20 would face six months in jail and a $1,000 fine. [8] (NORML's Web site reports that the current penalty for a gift of marijuana of 1 oz. or less is a $100 fine.
Myth #3: You'll be able to light up freely in the privacy of your home.
Fact: That depends. Under the initiative, even adults consuming marijuana in the privacy of their homes could face arrest if there are minors present (not something one would expect from an initiative that claims to treat marijuana like alcohol and tobacco)[10]. Current marijuana law contains no such restrictions. Thanks to Prop. 215, which legalized marijuana for medicinal use, cannabis consumers have been legally free to smoke in the privacy of their homes since 1997. This initiative seeks to undermine that freedom, making it absolutely illegal to smoke marijuana if there are minors present. (The initiative is ambiguous with regard to whether “present” means being in the same room as the consumer, the same house, the same apartment building, or within wafting distance—apparently leaving this up to the interpretation of judges.) There is no exception for medical marijuana patients or for parents consuming in the presence of their own children.
Myth #4: Under the initiative, anyone 21 or over will be allowed to grow marijuana in a 5’x5’ space.
Fact: Not quite. This allotment is per property, not per person. If you share a residence with other people, you’ll be sharing a 5’x5’ grow space, as well. Even if you own multiple acres that many people live on, if it is considered one parcel, the space restriction of 5’x5’ (3-6 plants) will still apply. [11] Plus, if you rent, you will be required to obtain permission from your landlord—which they may be unwilling to grant since doing so will subject them to forfeiture by the federal government.
Myth #5: Adults 21 and over will be able to possess up to one ounce of marijuana without penalty.
Fact: Perhaps the most ironic piece of the puzzle is that the initiative to legalize marijuana actually makes it illegal to possess marijuana if it was purchased anywhere other than the very few licensed dispensaries in the state.[12] So if this initiative passes, better not get caught carrying marijuana you bought off your neighbor, your current dealer, or at a party; you could get arrested. And if you do buy from a licensed dispensary, better keep your receipts, because the burden of proof will be on you. Not only is this inconvenient, but it sets the industry up to be monopolized.
What’s more, if your city decides not to tax cannabis, then buying and selling marijuana in the city limits would remain illegal. You would be permitted to possess and consume marijuana, but you would be required to travel to another city that taxes cannabis to buy it.[13] This is a move towards decreased, not increased, access. And since the initiative is so ambiguous that cities are destined to be tied up in a legal quagmire over how to interpret it, many local governments might find it simpler just to opt-out and send its citizens elsewhere. Indeed, 129 cities did just that with medical marijuana, banning it outright, while still others have established moratoriums against dispensaries. In fact, of the entire state, only the city of Oakland has endorsed the initiative. A vote for the initiative will therefore not ensure local access to purchase marijuana legally
