Cheese Trainwreck 12 / 12 From Seed

bigv1976

bigv1976

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I really appreciate the info and the rep (will hit ya back). I have the growing thing down good but 12/12 from seed is a different animal. I stand behind topping and LST so I am trying to get a strategy down before my next grow which will be 12/12 fom seed but I wanna top and LST so I am gathering info for the planning aspect of it. I am going to make it a bit trickier because my next grow is gonna be different strains and I am looking to perpetual by adding a new seedling either every week or every 2 weeks. Most likely 2 weeks as my box is only 22"x34"x24" to the plexi glass top. I was thinking that if I go every 2 weeks I will have a max of 5 plants in various stages of growth so it wont get too crowded. I have 4 Big Bang in there all tied down and it is full so I am thinking 5 2 weeks apart will work. Tell me what you think and if you have any advise what so ever I will read it and consider it. Thanks again.
 
b2theizzle

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Hi Goonerbeatyaa,
Nice looking girls you got there !
My 2 cheese wreck & 1 church are 3weeks old in coco & fed on canna coco nutes. i topped them this morning & changed from 18/6 to 12/12.
This is because i researched you tube on keeping plant heigh down & came across a dutch grower who grows in loftspace this way. His plants are less than 1m tall on 12/12 form seed. he also tops them at an early age !
When will your girls be ready to harvest ?
Does this LST produce more colas ?
The 55 days is that from begining or end of germination ?
cheers B2
 
goonerbeatyaa

goonerbeatyaa

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bigv1976 said:
I really appreciate the info and the rep (will hit ya back). I have the growing thing down good but 12/12 from seed is a different animal. I stand behind topping and LST so I am trying to get a strategy down before my next grow which will be 12/12 fom seed but I wanna top and LST so I am gathering info for the planning aspect of it. I am going to make it a bit trickier because my next grow is gonna be different strains and I am looking to perpetual by adding a new seedling either every week or every 2 weeks. Most likely 2 weeks as my box is only 22"x34"x24" to the plexi glass top. I was thinking that if I go every 2 weeks I will have a max of 5 plants in various stages of growth so it wont get too crowded. I have 4 Big Bang in there all tied down and it is full so I am thinking 5 2 weeks apart will work. Tell me what you think and if you have any advise what so ever I will read it and consider it. Thanks again.
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BigV,

I am a little too inexperianced to help to much but from what you said above it seems like a good plan. I am not sure if the space will be enough but i guess as you have 4 in there now you should be ok with 5.

have you read these threads:

12/12 Club... https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/151253-12-12-seed-harvest-1-a.html

Topping Techniques... https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/151706-uncle-bens-topping-technique-get.html

LST... https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/6834-how-lst-low-stress-training.html

The 12/12 club is like 70 pages but as you make your way though it there is lots of useful tips and links to other peoples 12/12 grows. The LST link is great i really want to try this method of growing it around the pot as i am sure then you can keep the size small but maximise the amount gained of each plant!

I hope some of this helps fella or if you have any further questions i will always try to help a fellow grower ;-)
 
goonerbeatyaa

goonerbeatyaa

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b2theizzle said:
Hi Goonerbeatyaa,
Nice looking girls you got there !
My 2 cheese wreck & 1 church are 3weeks old in coco & fed on canna coco nutes. i topped them this morning & changed from 18/6 to 12/12.
This is because i researched you tube on keeping plant heigh down & came across a dutch grower who grows in loftspace this way. His plants are less than 1m tall on 12/12 form seed. he also tops them at an early age !
When will your girls be ready to harvest ?
Does this LST produce more colas ?
The 55 days is that from begining or end of germination ?
cheers B2
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B2,

Thanks they are coming along very well starting to get real smelly thought :-D

This is a link that someone gave me and its all in Dutch but its got great pics and is still current so you can follow him as he progresses. http://www.wietforum.nl/index.php?showtopic=68786&st=0 this is based upon the SOG method but is all using 12/12 and it really keeps the plants low.

In my experiance LST doesnt produce more main colas but it really allows the lower buds to get light and as soon as they do they start to grow towards it making them fat and longer than they would have been under the canopy of leaves.

The 55 days is from germmination of the seeds (they popped from the seed cases 24hrs after doing the papertowel method). It took just a few days more for them to break the top of the soil. I think i have around 4 weeks until harvest but the 3 plants will finish differently as the LST looks further along that the straight up plant and the straight up plant is further along than the topped plant as it took 5 days to recover and start to grow again.

If your really looking to lern more on 12/12 from seed and to see others examples i would suggest reading the 12/12 frm Seed Club thread... its long but worth the effort some great growers have posted on it https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/175581-12-12-seed-club-show.html.

I hope some of this is helpful to you.
 
goonerbeatyaa

goonerbeatyaa

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b2theizzle said:
i topped them this morning & changed from 18/6 to 12/12.
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Forgot to say but is just a suggestion... maybe changing the time and topping on the same day will be too stressful for the plants! it might be a good idea to keep the veg going a few more days then going to 12/12 to give the girls the best possible chance of making you the best bud :-)
 
goonerbeatyaa

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So an update on the sizes which were missing from my last pic update...

LST 16 Inches, Straight Up 16 Inches and the Topped plant is at 18 Inches.
 
goonerbeatyaa

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808toker said:
nice....just wondering how much main colas does the lst one have? just 1 or multiple?
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Hey 808 hows things on the islands ;-)

I will take some better pictures and have them up by this time tomorrow so you can see the last pics were weak so ill make sure i get a good shot next time so you can see the amount of growth that has taken off lower down.
 
808toker

808toker

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goonerbeatyaa said:
Hey 808 hows things on the islands ;-)

I will take some better pictures and have them up by this time tomorrow so you can see the last pics were weak so ill make sure i get a good shot next time so you can see the amount of growth that has taken off lower down.
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Everything's going great!...alright cant wait to see your harvest off of this it should be some killer DANK!
 
goonerbeatyaa

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808toker said:
nice....just wondering how much main colas does the lst one have? just 1 or multiple?
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Hi 808,

I hope the rain has stopped at your end... i guess one good thing about an indoor grow :-)

So the new pics i just posted of the LST show how many of the lower buds have started reaching for the light. I am not sure if we can call them cola's but they are starting to look big. The Topped one looks great and should hopefully produce two massive cola's of decent smoke... some people say topping it reduces the potentcy but increases the yield!

I guess in time i will find out :joint:
 
probo24

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Very nice looking plants.
saw your post in the 12/12 fs thread,
thought i'd check it out.
LST growers unite!
 
goonerbeatyaa

goonerbeatyaa

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probo24 said:
Very nice looking plants.
saw your post in the 12/12 fs thread,
thought i'd check it out.
LST growers unite!
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Hi Probo,

Thanks for the compliment on mine :-) do you have a grow journal would love to see how yours go from start to finish... or feel free to throw a few pics on my journal as I saw some of you plants on the 12/12 thread... very very nice the work you do on LST blows me away so many main bud sites!!!
 
passthatsh!t23

passthatsh!t23

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Hey man!
I like what i see!
I might try my next plant from 12/12 with an afgani goox Og kush cross-strain seed. Im germinating the seed as we speak. Any down sides growing from 12/12 fs to harvest?
My plant is just startd to flower. So i would say 5 days into flowering.
Fat nuggets,fat colas = hefty harvest!
 
goonerbeatyaa

goonerbeatyaa

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passthatsh!t23 said:
Hey man!
I like what i see!
I might try my next plant from 12/12 with an afgani goox Og kush cross-strain seed. Im germinating the seed as we speak. Any down sides growing from 12/12 fs to harvest?
My plant is just startd to flower. So i would say 5 days into flowering.
Fat nuggets,fat colas = hefty harvest!
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Hi Pass23,

I think the only downside would be the size of the plant and the amount you will get but that would depend on the space you have as this maybe a good thing ;-) mine is 6ft tall so its good for keeping the temp/humid down but i guess i am wasting a little! I am not really sure if there is much else i could say that they take longer than just what the breeder says to flower for but really its 12/12 from seed but the plant will only flower when it can so add on a few weeks to the flowering time and when doing the grow keep an eye out for when flowering starts then you can set the clock for flower time. I think also the strain is important as the cheeswreck breeder/seller said it was not a high yielding plant and as i menthion below a guy who started the 12/12 from seed club has some massive plants!

I hope this info is useful to you and hapy growing :-) Thanks for stopping by if you really want a good read on 12/12 form seed to harvest check out https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/175581-12-12-seed-club-show.html is alot of pages but some great info and lots more on the +s and -s of 12/12 grows.
 
passthatsh!t23

passthatsh!t23

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goonerbeatyaa said:
Hi Pass23,

I think the only downside would be the size of the plant and the amount you will get but that would depend on the space you have as this maybe a good thing ;-) mine is 6ft tall so its good for keeping the temp/humid down but i guess i am wasting a little! I am not really sure if there is much else i could say that they take longer than just what the breeder says to flower for but really its 12/12 from seed but the plant will only flower when it can so add on a few weeks to the flowering time and when doing the grow keep an eye out for when flowering starts then you can set the clock for flower time. I think also the strain is important as the cheeswreck breeder/seller said it was not a high yielding plant and as i menthion below a guy who started the 12/12 from seed club has some massive plants!

I hope this info is useful to you and hapy growing :-) Thanks for stopping by if you really want a good read on 12/12 form seed to harvest check out https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/175581-12-12-seed-club-show.html is alot of pages but some great info and lots more on the +s and -s of 12/12 grows.
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Thanks man for all the info. I shall check that club out.
Also im coming into some Aurorapolo seeds and straight back crossed Aurora seeds.
Im get a 400 watt hps system. So maybe i shall do several different way of grwoing next grow.:leaf::weed:
 
SmeLLyTreeZ

SmeLLyTreeZ

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Lookin real good! I'm starting my first grow aswell and it was cool to see the different styles of growing here. I'm curious to see what they produce, I'm really thinking of at least trying lst on one of my babies but I'm still unsure. Which way do you think is turning out the best so far?
 
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