Revolution...man!

NevaSmokedOut

NevaSmokedOut

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who here believes we need another revolution. i know that somewhere down the line of our generation history will repeat itself. the return of rioting chaos in the street is not what i'm getting at here, more like making the stakes high for these evil lobbyists an bureaucrats or as i say people who "politrick" you. fight off the oppressive media that feeds children of today bulshit out the ass. revolution is coming anyway an i intend to be apart of it. if the inevitable does happen i wanna at least prove i wasn't going out like a bitch sitting down waiting to get beat.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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Yeahhh.

I will be apart of a revolution when we get enough ideas that are tested and will actually work and us Americans can get together in a major majority, understand it, and get it enacted.

But there has not been anything close to that, and nothing out of the tea party or green party or any party really is going to cut it.


I am guessing I will be long dead before collectively as Americans we are smart enough to make a better country, so I guess I have to say never?
 
undertheice

undertheice

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the revolution is already here. it is quiet and, as is usually the case, its intent has been perverted to meet the desires of man's baser instincts. the revolutionary concepts of restoring liberty to the individual and stripping the military industrial complex of its power have been abandoned, replaced by the easy answers of the welfare state and the illusory safety of intrusive governmental regulation. instead of dismantling the alliance between the monetary power big business and the military might of big government, we are merely melding the two into one massive machine and handing what remains of the people's power within the marketplace to a political elite.

the question should be, "who here believes we need a counter-revolution?" a movement to repair the damage done by the half-measures of the first.
 
ink the world

ink the world

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patlpp said:
That's what they said about the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. Tenacity always wins
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Apples and oranges man. Russia was an invading armed force that was occupying another country. Last I looked I didnt see any foreign army here.
Also majority of Afghans supported their fight, the majority doesnt support overthrow of our government. Just a small loud group of political extremists do .
 
monsoon

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Handson said:
For all you New Yorkers, new CCTV cameras city wide after the latest false flag
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uhhh, lol
oh no! more cameras in NYC
I remember a while ago the ACLU tried to count all the cameras in manhattan that had views of public areas and they had to stop after like 10 blocks because there were too many.
so basically, if you're in NYC, assume you are being watched.
 
ink the world

ink the world

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And if this guy succeeded in his half assed plan and Americans died, the Right would be screaming about how lax security has become under Obama. I can already here it "Obama likes the terrorists, that's why we don't have enough cameras in NYC, it's all Obamas fault"

Funny how they claim the high ground on terror here and accuse Obama of being soft, while Bush "protected us". They already forgot the DC sniper and Anthrax letters.
 
undertheice

undertheice

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iNVESTIGATE said:
We Need An EVOLUTION.
Revolution literally mean's coming back to the same place you were before.
This system cannot be reformed. Let's try something different.
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syndicalism is nothing more than the mob rule that degenerates into the tyranny of socialistic authoritarianism, a crude reinterpretation of failed marxist theory. it denies individual rights in favor of the will of the mob and is a step backward from the system described by our forefathers. turning back to our roots is exactly what we need. the tenets this nation was founded on have been undermined and perverted by the greed of both the herd and the powerful and we must regain some of what we have lost. the path was quite clear, a road to ever increasing individual freedom, but we were sidetracked by government's natural tendencies toward creating a totalitarian state and increasing its own control over the people. the system can be reformed. all that is needed is to remember that more regulation is not better regulation and that the individual must take responsibility for his own destiny.
 
patlpp

patlpp

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ink the world said:
Apples and oranges man. Russia was an invading armed force that was occupying another country. Last I looked I didnt see any foreign army here.
Also majority of Afghans supported their fight, the majority doesnt support overthrow of our government. Just a small loud group of political extremists do .
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You missed my point. No direct comparison just the analogy that when there is just cause to resist, no matter what the odds, the more motivated will persevere.
 
ink the world

ink the world

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patlpp said:
You missed my point. No direct comparison just the analogy that when there is just cause to resist, no matter what the odds, the more motivated will persevere.
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Ok I'll accept I missed your point, I think you missed mine too. The people calling for revolution here are a SMALL group of extremists. This isnt some popular national movement or resistance, just some extremists.

And to argue your point, lets take the Tea Party for an example, seeing as how alot of the "revolution" talk comes from that ilk. Do you really think that a group that size would stand a chance against the US military or their neighbors that see them as a bunch of lunatic fringe types?

My point being that this ISNT a majority thing, most citizens here would fight AGAINST people trying to overthrow the government. Go ahead call me a Socialist, Progressive, or a Liberal. I care not which tag people wanna place on me. Just know if you run around trying to overthrow the Govt. in my town that you will be in the Red Dot of my AR15 :-)

Treat traitors as traitors.

God bless the USA.
 
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NoDrama

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All we really need are politicians who will start repealing laws. Like that would ever happen.

I wonder what would happen if a Revolution had begun, you know,the kind of revolution with the pitch forks and the torches, And they just shut down the internet and the cell networks? Would the revolution die? Our declaration of independence from England and the ensuing revolution all communication was done by print and by horseback riders word of mouth. Didn't Obama have some kind of executive order or something which gives him the power to do that kind of thing? I mean shut down all communications in the USA in case of an "Emergency"? Would the patriots have another plan for communication?
 
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NoDrama

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ink the world said:
And to argue your point, lets take the Tea Party for an example, seeing as how alot of the "revolution" talk comes from that ilk. Do you really think that a group that size would stand a chance against the US military or their neighbors that see them as a bunch of lunatic fringe types?

My point being that this ISNT a majority thing, most citizens here would fight AGAINST people trying to overthrow the government. Go ahead call me a Socialist, Progressive, or a Liberal. I care not which tag people wanna place on me. Just know if you run around trying to overthrow the Govt. in my town that you will be in the Red Dot of my AR15 :-)

Treat traitors as traitors.

God bless the USA.
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The US cannot use the Military to Police its own citizens, its expressly forbidden, Posse Comitatus http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/1385.html

Will your red dot go on your neighbor when the men in black with large boots are stepping on his neck while they search his home, and when they are done with his home and yours is next what do you plan to do then?
 
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ink the world

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NoDrama said:
The US cannot use the Military to Police its own citizens, its expressly forbidden, Posse Comitatus http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/1385.html

Will your red dot go on your neighbor when the men in black with large boots are stepping on his neck while they search his home, and when they are done with his home and yours is next what do you plan to do then?
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LOL take off the tin foil hat man, no one is coming for my neighbor, me or you...we are talking about the overthrow of our government, not protests. And yes if armed people take to the streets and attempt to takeover I hope our military is there to crush them. What, you think that violent acts perpetrated by people seeking to overthrow the government shouldnt be met with similar violence in order to put down the rebellion?

We should treat any traitors as such.
 
iNVESTIGATE

iNVESTIGATE

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undertheice said:
syndicalism is nothing more than the mob rule that degenerates into the tyranny of socialistic authoritarianism, a crude reinterpretation of failed marxist theory. it denies individual rights in favor of the will of the mob and is a step backward from the system described by our forefathers. turning back to our roots is exactly what we need. the tenets this nation was founded on have been undermined and perverted by the greed of both the herd and the powerful and we must regain some of what we have lost. the path was quite clear, a road to ever increasing individual freedom, but we were sidetracked by government's natural tendencies toward creating a totalitarian state and increasing its own control over the people. the system can be reformed. all that is needed is to remember that more regulation is not better regulation and that the individual must take responsibility for his own destiny.
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Not if everyone actually genuinely wanted to live better as a whole, IMO.

lol & loved reading that by the way. No sarcasm. I find it... interesting as fuck.
 
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