if you say so but that comment still wont make what your advocating right. Au contraire...
My first grow is ambering up and ready to flush!!!!!!
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well when the rest of the world's scientific institutions start using your opinion instead of the IACR data, then I will also waste 2 precious weeks of the flowering time to starve my plant & force it not to use its full potential, but that will never happen so I'll keep on growing correctly & to the full potential of what the plant is capable of.
Quote from another grower who obviously knows his stuff:
with chemical salt fertilisers its very easy to push nutrient uptake well beyond anything a plant would or could do in the natural world. To understand you need to know about the early days of hydro and canna, yield was god, so some very extreme and unnatural ratios were used with very, very high phosphate levels, this did indeed make larger and heavier buds, but also buds that were very hard to burn without useing a lot of tobacco with saltpeter. Even then the smoke tended to be acrid and leave a nasty taste in the mouth from the uncombusted elements, these also made the smoke many times more carcinogenic.
In addition the type of P used also contained radioactive elements, this upped the cancer risk even more.
Before these crude hydro nutrients were refined, in an attempt to overcome the problem, pioneers started making what they called flushing recipes, in reality these were low level fertilisers that kept the plants going for a couple of weeks at the end of flowering, one of the main ingredients was molasses, they thought it was the sugar that sweetened the smoke, when in fact it was the fact it helped the plants to metabolize some of the other excess elements and added potassium helping to balance the excess of other elements this in turn helping combustion.
Todays answer for the chem grower is to give high levels on P earlier in flower balanced with a bigger boost of K ie PK 13:14 is added on top on the normal flowering nutrient. this is dropped just after the middle period of flowering when it has mainly done it job of promoting heavier flowering. Its only if the normal flowering nutrients after PK are pushed right to the end that you still get bad problems.
With the newer nutrients I would just advise reducing feed input over the last 2 or 3 weeks and just water for the last week.
In compost using organic nutrients, there should not really ever be a problem with feeding up to cutting the plants, if feed is reduced to supply just enough to keep the plants healthy at the end of flowering.
At the end of the day the reason there is a problem, is overfeeding.
M8... do you honestly think i care one iota about changing your mind?
Do you really think i posted all that to change YOUR mind??I couldnt care less what works for you, if you over fert & starving at the end help's, good for you. Just dont go passing that off as the correct thing to be doing & not expect someone who knows, not to correct you. Is this not a forum for growers looking for the best possible information? You aint even the OP for christ sake, get over yourself.
the reason i post this "stuff" is because it's correct information & the OP can read what has been said & realize that he doesn't need to starve the plant, IF he thinks his feed was 100% on the mark. He will have a correct understanding about what a "flush" is actually doing and be able to read the plants tell's better.
Or not, who gives a shit. I've done my part, if you dont believe me go look for yourself & if you don't look, then don't talk as if you know. If you wanna spread myth's im sure theres a 911-truth forum somewhere, that will be happy to have you.
Stonercool
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M8... do you honestly think i care one iota about changing your mind?
Is this not a forum for growers looking for the best possible information? You aint even the OP for christ sake, get over yourself.
the reason i post this "stuff" is because it's correct information & the OP can read what has been said & realize that he doesn't need to starve the plant, IF he thinks his feed was 100% on the mark. He will have a correct understanding about what a "flush" is actually doing and be able to read the plants tell's better.
Or not, who gives a shit. I've done my part, if you dont believe me go look for yourself & if you don't look, then don't talk as if you know. If you wanna spread myth's im sure theres a 911-truth forum somewhere, that will be happy to have you.
Never quite sure why people feel the need to argue or get angry about how they grow.
You do what you do and I do what I do. Eh, I don't care.
Here's something I tend to follow and I've also used Final Phase.
http://www.marijuanafertilizers.com/harvesting-curing-drying-marijuana-flowers-buds-plants.html
It is advised that you stop using your cannabis flowering fertilizer 2 weeks before harvest time to ensure that all chemicals are out of the plant. If chemicals are in the plant when you harvest, the smoke will be very harsh. To prevent harshness, flush the plants heavily with fresh water 2 weeks prior to harvesting them. Ensure you flush at least 3 times the capacity of your pot. So a 4 gallon pot would be flushed with 16 gallons of fresh water. From that point water your plants with pure water, absolutely NO additives should be given to the plant. This is especially important if you have been using chemical fertilizers.
This is the time when the bulk of the final, "usable" part of the plant is produced. As you may well already know, there are over four hundred separate chemicals associated with cannabis and her effects. It is during the final bud-building stage that most of these chemicals are produced. Thus, it is very important to give the plant as much pure water as possible during this crucial period. I like to remember it as the "rinse" and "flush" cycle. Simply remember to give the plants only water for the last two to three weeks in order to rinse and flush them clean. This is to purge unwanted impurities from the plant.Pot that has been fertilized right up to harvest is harsh to smoke, sometimes the joint will even sizzle and pop as unmetabolized fertilizer salts combust. Unflushed pot leaves black ash, is hard to keep lit and burns your throat. Pot which has been organically grown and properly flushed is more flavorful and fragrant, burns easily, leaves grey ash, is easier on the throat and is much more pleasurable to smoke.
But again, I'm not going to lose sleep if someone doesn't do what I do. LOLThis is the time when the bulk of the final, "usable" part of the plant is produced. As you may well already know, there are over four hundred separate chemicals associated with cannabis and her effects. It is during the final bud-building stage that most of these chemicals are produced. Thus, it is very important to give the plant as much pure water as possible during this crucial period. I like to remember it as the "rinse" and "flush" cycle. Simply remember to give the plants only water for the last two to three weeks in order to rinse and flush them clean. This is to purge unwanted impurities from the plant.Pot that has been fertilized right up to harvest is harsh to smoke, sometimes the joint will even sizzle and pop as unmetabolized fertilizer salts combust. Unflushed pot leaves black ash, is hard to keep lit and burns your throat. Pot which has been organically grown and properly flushed is more flavorful and fragrant, burns easily, leaves grey ash, is easier on the throat and is much more pleasurable to smoke.
Flush em, don't flush em. I think it makes things taste better, but I can see how other things might be affecting the taste too.
To each their own....
rocpilefsj
Misguided Angel
I would like to see someone flush one plant and not flush the other and then give their opinion on the matter
Thanks for that i needed a good laugh.Never quite sure why people feel the need to argue or get angry about how they grow.
You do what you do and I do what I do. Eh, I don't care.
Here's something I tend to follow and I've also used Final Phase.
http://www.marijuanafertilizers.com/harvesting-curing-drying-marijuana-flowers-buds-plants.html
It is advised that you stop using your cannabis flowering fertilizer 2 weeks before harvest time to ensure that all chemicals are out of the plant. If chemicals are in the plant when you harvest, the smoke will be very harsh. To prevent harshness, flush the plants heavily with fresh water 2 weeks prior to harvesting them. Ensure you flush at least 3 times the capacity of your pot. So a 4 gallon pot would be flushed with 16 gallons of fresh water. From that point water your plants with pure water, absolutely NO additives should be given to the plant. This is especially important if you have been using chemical fertilizers.But again, I'm not going to lose sleep if someone doesn't do what I do. LOL
This is the time when the bulk of the final, "usable" part of the plant is produced. As you may well already know, there are over four hundred separate chemicals associated with cannabis and her effects. It is during the final bud-building stage that most of these chemicals are produced. Thus, it is very important to give the plant as much pure water as possible during this crucial period. I like to remember it as the "rinse" and "flush" cycle. Simply remember to give the plants only water for the last two to three weeks in order to rinse and flush them clean. This is to purge unwanted impurities from the plant.Pot that has been fertilized right up to harvest is harsh to smoke, sometimes the joint will even sizzle and pop as unmetabolized fertilizer salts combust. Unflushed pot leaves black ash, is hard to keep lit and burns your throat. Pot which has been organically grown and properly flushed is more flavorful and fragrant, burns easily, leaves grey ash, is easier on the throat and is much more pleasurable to smoke.
Flush em, don't flush em. I think it makes things taste better, but I can see how other things might be affecting the taste too.
To each their own....
Rinse & flush cycle, priceless. My washing machine has one of those.Water will not wash nutrients out of soil. If it did my lawn would be dead. Farmers would have to fertilize after heavy rain.Thanks for that i needed a good laugh.
Common sense saves the day.
musicislfe
Well-Known Member
wow practically everyone disagrees with you. you speeka too much. let it go.... let it go.
Pff if you had read the last comment, you would have seen that he was actually agreeing with me, you no reada too well, what does it matter that some novices disagree with me? It still wont make flushing do what you think it does! if you want to add something constructive then bring some proof that "flushing" works... (real scientific proof, none of that rinse & flush bollox) until then I'll just treat you as the novice you obviously are as you haven't a clue what is being discussed here.
Use some friggin' common sense! If water washed nutrients from soil farm crops would fail after long bouts of rain. Nothing would grow in Oregon! Get some good soil flush it a 1000 times and it will still grow stuff as well as before!
musicislfe
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OMG your worlds are crumbling. lol. i always flush a 1000 times. works everytime. im flushing now (as we speak) just to spite you.
No i said scientific proof it works, not your opinion, scientific proof! there's a massive difference! you really should read whats being said if you don't want to look like an imbecile.
it would take a lot more than a novice to spite me, especially one who cant provide anything to back up his argument.
There's also a massive difference between speaking & talking shit.
musicislfe
Well-Known Member
you hit the nail on the head. i like to read alot of the post on here and theres always some dude with intent on explaining himself over and over and over again. ok we get it. we understand. you dont flush. in soil the nutes wont go anywhere. BUT in a potted plant guaranteed that if i pour ten gallons into say... a one gallon container it will relinquish some of it nutritional benefits. regardless, you dont flush. we get it. i am a novice, but very skilled at talking shit. oh and you want proof of my grow??? my weed can kick your weeds ass!!! there, proof.
williewill420
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Who gives a fuck....Smallchange is growing in promix not SOIL. Promix isnt soil and your link would be great for growing wheat speeka. Here is a better link......Due to rain and poor farming practices, some of the nutrients are washed from the farm......http://www.seafriends.org.nz/enviro/soil/ecology.htm
williewill420
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By the way speeka i bet you grow with cfl's in a closet.....get a clue. Real cultivators are here
& your dad's bigger than mine?
Adults are talking here , so fuck off & re read the part about " something constructive"... might be a good idea to read the " imbecile" part again too.
musicislfe
Well-Known Member
LOL. good times .....good times.