Upstate from BC Seeds - Has anyone grown it?

NickNasty

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I have used a ton of feminized seeds and the only thing that sucks about them is they are much more likely to hermie. Usually it is late into flowering so if it does happen most people won't even notice because the seeds are so immature that you can't really tell its seeded. This doesn't happen every time but I would say at least 1 out of every 10 strains I have grown that was feminized ended up with at least some bananas by the end. I like them if I just want to try a strain out but I much prefer none feminized seeds if I plan to keep the strain around.

Shiskaberry and Sweet Tooth # 3 are 2 strains I wish I still had in my garden. I really can't say enough good things about his strains. I got a pound+ off of one Sweet Tooth plant indoors so Im sure it would have gotten multiple pounds outdoors. Try the Donk Im sure it will live up to its name.
 

buckets

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That's great Nick Nasty. Thank you. I made a query to a friend of a friend and I may be able to get a few inewarp and even the old texada timewarp, plus there's elephant and elephant outdoors but they have been slow growing but appear to be very hearty. They won't be ready til late april is what I am told or into May so I may wait. Not sure yet. It would be better to use clones than feminized seeds yes? But as a back up I have the feminized upstate.

Talk to you later,

Buckets:weed:
 

buckets

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Hi Everyone:

To be honest, I'm getting a bit nervous about some of the strains at bc seeds including upstate. Not because of poor plant outcome but because I have heard from both the two people who have grown it that it is a very hardy plant but it takes more than 6 weeks to flower like it says on the bc seeds web site.

I am not sure what my decision is going to be regarding whether I grow this strain outdoors or if I find something else.

But before you think I have given up, one of the growers of upstate sent me these two pictures of Upstate and they are in flowering so it won't be long til he's done.

Check it out if you're curious at all.

Thanks,

Bucketsbongsmilie
 

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Miss MeanWeed

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I have my doubts about BCSeeds for obvious reasons. In saying that, there is a few respected members here and at other forums who have bred new lines using some BCSeeds genetics, which adds to the confusion. This leads me to think they are either in on the action, or BCSeeds does actually have some good or worthwhile genetics.
You appear to be the most patient and calm RIU poster on Earth. At first admirable, then amazing, and then downright suspicious.

But that's just how it seems, from a pessimistic point of view. I have nothing concrete whatsoever to add weight or credibility to that viewpoint though.

From an optimistic point of view, if you are legit, I look forward to your grow journal. I hope you do grow some amazing dank. What you pay for seeds is your prerogative so I hope you get your money's worth (or more importantly, you don't end up having wasted precious time and resources). Good luck.
 

Eternal

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buckets, every single post you have made on these forums is regarding bcseeds, except for 1 or 2 posts. hrmmm.

Not only that but you started this thread to get more info on Elephant or whatever, then after what, 50 experienced growers told you they are a scam, and at best may have decent genetics hidden amongst overpriced garbage that has never seen a competition. Yet you still have that protective attitude towards bcseeds. hrmmmmmm.

Face it dude, the only business you guys will ever see is 1) people too new/naive to know any better, 2) ppl who are highly suspicious and have an extra $1000 to spend, just to prove if you are legit (even these ppl highly doubt that they will get their money's worth). If your genetics were that good news would spread. people don't hide dank strains. they get the word out there, as this can only mean good things for the breeder if it truly is dank, there will be alot of demand for it and thus alot of profits for the breeder. you guys at bcseeds are too stupid to go legit though, nor do you have any genetics worth money.

having said that, get out of the MJ community, you are not needed or wanted.
 

buckets

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Hi Miss Mean Weed:

I appreciated reading your message. I gotta say that even this thread up to this point has been educational. As you pointed out and as MANY others pointed out, BC Seeds has some crazy prices for their top genetics. I agree with that. They are the most expensive seed company in the world that I am aware of.

I am patient on this thread because I participated in Jasper2478's BC seeds elephant grow - who started an outdoor thread growing BC seeds elephant. So I saw all the negativity that came his way and new it would be coming on mine. Poor guy's plants went to seed by another strain which he was growing. If they had just been elephant seeds, he could have made a small fortune.

The second reason why I am trying to be patient with everyone is because I agree that there is a huge mystery about what kind of plants bc seeds produces. That's because they say right on their web site, don't participate in the forums because it attracts attention to them. Well that's all fine and good for them. They make huge money, but I'm in this to either make some good money also or to have top quality personal smoke. I won't say which one.

But some people are starting to realize this point and some bc seeds customers are showing pictures of their strains, which I personally really appreciate.

The negative people on this thread - I call them the negs...they've had an effect on me that I didn't expect and that is that maybe I should also do my best to realize my goal of cropping out with several pounds of top quality smoke. There are some oter seed companies with great outdoor strains but grow journals need to be done on them too. As an example, another strain not BC seeds that I am considering is BC bud depots pinewarp...as well as BC bud Depots Texada Time warp. I've just ordered these a few weeks ago just to be on the safe side.

While I was researching I also discovered a new medium I wish I had known about before I humped all that soil out into the bush. And that is the stuff they call Coco Coir. Made from the fibres of recycled coconut husks. Pot plants grow really well in that stuff after you've added some soil, lime, (approx. 5.2-6.3ph) and organic fertilizers to it. I've already done my research and the best stuff is called Atami BCuzz Coco. This brand is the only brand that is harvested inland where there is no sea salt. Then it is shipped to the netherlands where it goes through a steam and rinse process. It's the only company that does this with coco coir. The other stuff is harvested around the sea shore and it is full of sea salt. If you use the cheap stuff you must rinse it thoroughly. It swell up and holds a huge amount of water while also creating air space for your roots.

Back to genetics...so I know what my end goal is and thanks to the negs I am preparing to have a plan B and C. I am very nervous about growing feminized seeds outside after all the hiking I've done. If I found my plants had turned to male come end of summer, I'd probably fall down to my knees and cry. I've dropped weight and feel terrific. So I can see why so many people love growing outdoors. It's a spiritual experience.

So I can understand why people are hesitant with BC seeds. I do point out that there are several good outdoor strains that we need grow journals done on. Upstae, elephant, elephant outdoor, texada time warp, texada Pinewarp...I'll see what I can get baby wise. Using these upstate feminized seeds outdoors...it's the fear of the almighty variables that scare me. I don't want them to go male on me and waste my summer. We have 6 weeks to go til planting starts where I live so there's still time to look around.

But I still talk t the two people that are growing upstate. One says go for it and the other shares my feelings about using feminized upstate for the very reasons I've just mentioned.

If I do gow upstate, should I start another thread in the outdoor section or just use this one?

Thanks and take care,

Buckets:bigjoint:
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Buckets.. you do realize that it does appear that you work for BC Seeds? I personally do not think you do, but it does look that way.

I understand what you're doing, by growing out their strain to take both biased ends out (BC Seeds vs. opposing people) you are the (more or less) middleground. As to take away from BC Seeds saying their plants produce gold, and to take away everyone slamming on them saying it produces swag. I don't really agree, but I do understand.

Maybe some insight on why some people are so hostile.
 

buckets

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Thanks for your insight Shep J. I value what you've said in your last post.

I've seen several people want to find out if BC seeds is legit or not and they've done posts and people have accused them of working for them or conspiring with them.

I don't work for BC seeds but how will you ever know - that is a good question. But what I am is dam curious if what they say is true or not about any of their strains. And I think there's a lot of people who are curious. I am one of the people who has actually ordered from them and who has received their seeds.

You are right when you say that I am trying to stay in the middle ground. When I started this thread I was all about wading through the negativity and finding out the truth. Is BC seeds full of crap or are they able to create wicked strains? I have the feminized version of upstate and all I ever tried to do in this thread was find some people who had grown it. I found two people who did at gardenscure.com.

I still want to find out if they're truthful or not but what's more important to me is my end goal which is several pounds of great weed grown outdoors. I need huge yield per plant for the work that I have done.

And so I've taken in your views as well as some other peoples here, and I am now making myself open to seeing if I can get my hands on clones. Maybe the elephant or the elephant outdoors, which is by BC seeds, or maybe pinewarp or time warp by BC bud depot. So I'm now open to those other strains.

I am extremely nervous about using a feminized plant from any seed company outdoors after the work I have done outdoors. I just hope I can get clones for May 1. That's my big worry at the moment.

I say back to everyone who thinks that I work for BC seeds that anyone who has tried so far to establish a thread about finding out the truth about BC seeds has almost always been accused of working for them. Look around and you will see I am telling the truth.

I have the upstate feminized as a back up but clones are now the priority. We'll see what I can get. I have accomplished my goal of speaking with two Upstate growers and learned some characteristics about this strain. I'll post more pictures if and when I get them for those that are curious.

Thanks and take care,

Buckets;-)
 

Miss MeanWeed

Active Member
Buckets.. you do realize that it does appear that you work for BC Seeds? I personally do not think you do, but it does look that way.

I understand what you're doing, by growing out their strain to take both biased ends out (BC Seeds vs. opposing people) you are the (more or less) middleground. As to take away from BC Seeds saying their plants produce gold, and to take away everyone slamming on them saying it produces swag. I don't really agree, but I do understand.

Maybe some insight on why some people are so hostile.
That's about the jist of it. Everyone who reads this thread assumes you are an indirect advertisement for BC Seeds. I don't care if you are or aren't, I just want to see some BC Seeds grown to full fruition because there just aren't that many documented grows available. In saying that, unless you grew out a monstrously hunormous resin-soaked crystalline THC bomb I won't be buying seeds from them anyway. But I sure am curious. It's like I want the ads to be somewhere near true just because it'd be awesome.
 

buckets

Well-Known Member
I hear you on that miss mean weed. I'll do the best that I can. Thanks for explaining your points of view.

Have a good night.

Buckets
 

gioiapura

Active Member
buckets...you are for sure a patient kind of person....i admire how you can stay between this poor haters without loose your control....they probably never grown a bean in their whole life so why they are so nervous and why i never waste my time showing to them how my Upstate, Elephant Bud, Elephant Outdoor are doing...in the case you are interested just PM me...too much hate to say it nice in this place!!!!ciao ciao!
 

Couchland

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buckets...you are for sure a patient kind of person....i admire how you can stay between this poor haters without loose your control....they probably never grown a bean in their whole life so why they are so nervous and why i never waste my time showing to them how my Upstate, Elephant Bud, Elephant Outdoor are doing...in the case you are interested just PM me...too much hate to say it nice in this place!!!!ciao ciao!
100% BULLSHIT!!! Thats what pisses people off!! I know for an absolute fact that BCSeeds is a scam website.
 

sven deisel

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were is the pics? thats what i want to see hell at 5000% thc you can smack a nug off the table and pure hash cracks right off right?
 

buckets

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Hello everyone - Hi Shep J...

Sorry I haven't been around much as I've been getting things ready for the planting. I love being out there in the bush. If you have a dog with you, I am envious!

I won't know for certain what strains I'm going to plant until the last moment but Shep J helped me think about what my wants and needs are so I came half way and started some other strains that weren't from BC seeds. They're off to a slow start and I actually have a question for the seed to plant experts out there.

If you are growing out seeds for say 6 weeks indoors using 24 hours light and you realize that this will create more male plants than female plants....can you change the light cycle to 14.5 to 15 hours of light instead and not screw up the plants? The 14.5 to 15 hours of light per day...that gets you more female plants I have learned. I'd say there's another 2 weeks to go and then they should be switched over to 12/12 to determine sex.

I'm not the one growing these...the people who have the elephant outdoors are doing this...and they didn't realize that 24 hours of constant light create more males...they were in to much of a hurry to get babies made...

Thanks for your feedback...

I hope everyone else is getting ready for their outdoor grow! And while doing my research I also found out that Hawaiian snow also gives off a huge yield if the conditions are right.

Talk to everybody soon,

Buckets
 

buckets

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Hello everyone...

I think I have found a picture of upstate bud from BC seeds but I am not 100% sure. If it is, then that's wonderful. I've asked some people wh have grown upstate if this is what it looks like when it buds. I'll let you all know what they have to say.

I have been spending a lot of time looking around for other seeds to consider and I made a discovery. BC seeds is not the only web seed company to have higher than normal prices on certain seeds.

I copied this link and I'd like to suggest that people go and have a look at these prices. Doggie nuts charges high too.

http://www.canadianhempco.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4_50

So I am not writing BC seeds off yet. I want to try some of their strains like upstate and elephant so if there's anyone out there who has grwn either of these strains, I would be so happy seeing some pictures and gaining some knowledge from you.

The summer is almost here!

Have a good day!

Buckets:bigjoint:
 

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