Its FLIR season once again here in Michigan

laserbrn

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Man, you got problems. If you have light 'pouring' out where it can be seen from outside then you have bigger problems than a helicopter. It's CFL for cryin' out loud, how much light do you have escaping? Get your shit on lock down so you don't have to worry so much. It's not good for your health.
 

greensister

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its not flir season... your just being paranoid.. the little planes at little airports are just out flying since its nice out, i have planes that fly at 2 in the morning every day and im not worried, the only way your gonna get caught is your own mouth telling people about growing

And being sloppy about waste materials.
 

Calijuana

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I never said they did use it in the day but my closet door was open when they flew past if you look at that pic you can see there is quite a bit of noticeable light coming out of it.

Dude do you think investigating this kind of shit is free for LEO's? Imagine the costs involved just to bust someone who could simply have a lamp on in their closet. jesus!
 

blahblahblah123

Active Member
lol i hit the 200w part and just chuckled.. gonna need a couple thousand in your closet for the flir guy to be going wtf? If it doesn't look like a beacon on his screen, hes not thinkin weed..
 

blunters

Member
I got a good laugh about this, I can understand your noid feelings. lets be real - #1 FLIR is pretty much useless during the day. It is typically used at night. #2 ... 200 watts? CFL? typically with a CFL set up you dont even need fans to blow away heat ( rather to bring in fresh CO2 ) - I could see being worried about like 4000 watts of HID... The biggest question is ... are you selling it? Because that is what they are looking for.

***News Flash*** - Michigan man growing 1 plant under 200 CFL was busted today - Authorities spoke at noon stating that : A Black Hawk Helicopter was used to first notice the grow, Then a harrier was brought over top of the house to take a closer look. After these 2 measures were taken ... Officials decided to use a spy drone to uncover this Michigan man 200 watt CFL grow.

lets be real - at 200 watts your not selling nothing because you arent producing enough to be profitable. #2 they arent busting small grows in this manner, The only way you will get caught is if you break the Golden Rule "Loose Lips Sink Ships"
 

svchop889

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Eveyone have a big laugh then go choke on your own cock/cunt whatever the fuck it is I dont really even give a shit. I GOT IT OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT NO everyone has got to put there 2cents in the saying the same thing as everyone else but in a different way YOu are all so much smarter than me and everyone else that said the same thing in a different way, I'm a fucking idiot be proud of yourselves you knew a couple facts that I didnt'. oh so fucking clever you all are.
 

laserbrn

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Eveyone have a big laugh then go choke on your own cock/cunt whatever the fuck it is I dont really even give a shit. I GOT IT OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT NO everyone has got to put there 2cents in the saying the same thing as everyone else but in a different way YOu are all so much smarter than me and everyone else that said the same thing in a different way, I'm a fucking idiot be proud of yourselves you knew a couple facts that I didnt'. oh so fucking clever you all are.
Haha....calm down. Everyone here was trying to illustrate to you that it's nothing to worry about.

I KNOW that's why you posted it here anyway, you wanted reassurance and that's what you got. So instead of gettin' all bent, just laugh it off. Smoke a bowl, relax and be thankfully that we're all having a good laugh and your not to worry about destroying your grow.

Sheeesh.
 

daisy2687

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lol after going to sleep last night i was awoke ny a heli right over the neighborhood. mind you it was right after contributing to this post.
9:00am sharp they were back again. something about the warm weather and clear skies, i think it might even be recreational?
Probably student/instructor practicing hover or something :)
 

golddog

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svchop889,

A good reason not to worry is that they need a search warrant to use it in the United States. Here is a quote from another thread.

"The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled a search warrrant must be obtained before police can use a FLIR camera on any resident either by air or car."

Not everybody knows. :bigjoint:
 

svchop889

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Haha....calm down. Everyone here was trying to illustrate to you that it's nothing to worry about.

I KNOW that's why you posted it here anyway, you wanted reassurance and that's what you got. So instead of gettin' all bent, just laugh it off. Smoke a bowl, relax and be thankfully that we're all having a good laugh and your not to worry about destroying your grow.

Sheeesh.
Five pages of people laughing at your stupidity and parinoia isn't fun It sucks. and I can't smoke a bowl im out. my deal got locked up today and MY grow is small and pitful and wont yield anything because its only 200w of cfl too bad i cant afford better you can all laugh at me some more for that too and feel big cause your grows are so much better than mine.
 

svchop889

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svchop889,

A good reason not to worry is that they need a search warrant to use it in the United States. Here is a quote from another thread.

"The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled a search warrrant must be obtained before police can use a FLIR camera on any resident either by air or car."

Not everybody knows. :bigjoint:
I feel sorry for you believing that the government actually does what they say there going to do your naive. they also said they were going to stop messing with medical users and lower taxes end the war in Iraq/afganisabad. bottom line Everyone is full of shit and nearly never do as they say they will.
 

daisy2687

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Five pages of people laughing at your stupidity and parinoia isn't fun It sucks. and I can't smoke a bowl im out. my deal got locked up today and MY grow is small and pitful and wont yield anything because its only 200w of cfl too bad i cant afford better you can all laugh at me some more for that too and feel big cause your grows are so much better than mine.
I grew some surprisngly good bud with four 42w cfls :)

check out my old journal
 

daisy2687

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Oh I know what cfl can do I was just portraying most everyone attitude toward them. I have no doubt in my setup. your plant are nice btw.
They're just spoiled with fans, ice boxes, venting to windows, large grow spaces and $200 lights :)

My first grow cost me under $100 for the entire 5 months.

My new grew I threw down 300
 

Madboy

Active Member
Don't sweat FLIR. It cannot see through walls. The only people who need to be concerned about FLIR are people with huge commercial operations, people venting their exhaust to the outside, people growing in attics, and people whose houses have shitty insulation. Even then you need a good amount of light to pump out enough heat to light you up on FLIR. There is no such thing as FLIR season either. Typically, the colder it is outside the easier it is to see if a house is putting off excessive heat. FLIR also doesn't work well during the daytime. The heat from the sun can confuse FLIR to the point of making it useless. Don't worry about Infrared blockers, especially for a small CFL grow. You have absolutely nothing to worry about as far as FLIR is concerned. Happy growing. :bigjoint:

I second this, they will be looking for the difference between the heat of your window and the neighbours, they cant see through solid shit, the chopper is over my house all the time, (I say "the chopper" as I think we only have the one) I chill now, but at the start I had em in the attic and the first night they were up there I was wasted and fucking jumped up in the attic to switch everything off :lol:

I chill now, usually have the window open two tents, one XS home box and a 1mx1mx2m Homebox running 400W HPS and a 220 CFL
I vent up to the attic but the air leaving the tube is cool so no worries, just dont vent outside, that shit looks like a Geyser gushing out of your house LMAO

DUDE! CHILL! and no I am no fan of Jail either (I like you idea about the woods though) we got no guns here though,
LMAO did I just say that?, sorry I meant legal guns (and I aint adding that to the list of charges)

anywho, that is the point of the flybys to freak you out into getting rid of your god given right and hey no laughter here "at you" man, I remember the fear and I was sweating - sure even on my last one as flowering drew to a close I was getting really paranoid that too many people knew so I told everyone I have fucked up the feeding and was so pissed off I was getting rid of the whole setup - that worked a treat
 

svchop889

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I was chill, am chill, the plants are all still rooted firmly in the dirt I didn't pull them all up and toss them in every direction in a frenzied fit of fear and paranoia. I dont vent outside no need too the 200w of cfl I have run at a comfortable 76-86F I vent straight into the closet the box is in and open the door 2 times a day for fresh air. I was just looking for reassurance and to remind everyone to Be Careful don't get big in the head and think your grow is too minimal for them to come after. They will put you in jail for whatever they can. but maybe thing are different in your area. I live in a town thats practically a police state. there are 3 cop stations here. They will book you and cook you faster than you can blink for no reason. I was once talked to by a cop because it looked ''suspicious'' to him that I was carrying a gas can at night. I was a block from a gas station. There nothing but criminals with badges.
 

Madboy

Active Member
sorry I just went back and saw you were getting upset, man they are not really laughing at you and you are right to be careful, no offence meant - I didn't think you were running in circles or anything - the cops were through my house a few weeks ago - raided a house behind me and wanted to come through to look in our back garden and fuuuuuuuck meee sqeeky bum, had a lookee around (I was even smoking one upstairs) and fucked off, nice one - took many more smokes to get to sleep that night
 

svchop889

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sorry I just went back and saw you were getting upset, man they are not really laughing at you and you are right to be careful, no offence meant - I didn't think you were running in circles or anything - the cops were through my house a few weeks ago - raided a house behind me and wanted to come through to look in our back garden and fuuuuuuuck meee sqeeky bum, had a lookee around (I was even smoking one upstairs) and fucked off, nice one - took many more smokes to get to sleep that night
I know I'm just having a bad day. your cool don't worry bout it.
 

KolorBlind

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There nothing but criminals with badges.

Amen brother. And pharmacists are nothing but crack dealers with white jackets. Priorities in this country have gone to SHIT. You know, in my state, I could molest a child, stab someone, shoot someone, etc. and possibly do less jail time than if I got busted growing ONE plant. And to make it even worse, I would get to KEEP my house if I molested a child (as long as it wanst my child), whereas law states that a house with a grow op MUST be seized, leaving the owner to still pay the full amount owed but never own the house again. Just fucking sick.

But yeah, all this nonsense over people worrying about FLIR is silly. In my opinion, only two types of people should worry about FLIR.....people growing with 1000w plus, or Canadians. Unfortunately for Canadians, more money is spent per year trying to bust grow ops than every other drug enforcement combined. They do regular flyovers in large BC neighborhoods, which is why most quality growers use basement homes or anit-flir materials. Check out the documentary "The Union" its fuckin FABULOUS!!

As most here have stated, a closed mouth will make you safer than all the stealth, anti-FLIR, and smell precautions combined. Almost every story I read about an op being busted mentions someone tipping them off. I have never read a story that said the person was detected using FLIR technology and you KNOW they would be bragging about that shit and putting it all over the news to scare other growers. Point is, they have better things to do with their money than spend thousands fueling up, flying over, and trying to find grow ops when idiots are telling their friends and getting themselves busted.

Loose lips sink ships, always have always will.
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