Blue Cheese, PPP, Thai SS...Jerry's Second Grow

[jeb5304]

nice update. all is looking very nice jerry. nice assortment of buds to smoke. happy growing and smoking

 

[skeeterleg]

Hey Jerry

Long time no see bro. Just got back in tha game myself. Enjoyed the thread. That TSS was kool! You are becoming quite a master of the art! Awesome buds.

I had a question for ya. Can a clone be taken while in flower? I have a white widow and a big bud in flower 2 weeks now.

Skeet

PS: Just ordered Barneys Farm: LSD; Dutch Passion: Blueberry and Strawberry Cough; DNA: Sharksbreath; Big Budda: Blue Cheese and Greenhouse: Super Lemon Haze from the Tude! Oh yeah plus their 5 free UFO’s!!!

So much weed so little time! lol

 

[theloadeddragon]

I cloned a plant 2 weeks after harvesting it, when it was froze every night and wasn't being watered for the whole two weeks

 

[jweedy]

Green crack is the shizzzzz!!! lol

 

[Jerry Garcia]

Hey Jerry

Long time no see bro. Just got back in tha game myself. Enjoyed the thread. That TSS was kool! You are becoming quite a master of the art! Awesome buds.

I had a question for ya. Can a clone be taken while in flower? I have a white widow and a big bud in flower 2 weeks now.

Skeet

PS: Just ordered Barneys Farm: LSD; Dutch Passion: Blueberry and Strawberry Cough; DNA: Sharksbreath; Big Budda: Blue Cheese and Greenhouse: Super Lemon Haze from the Tude! Oh yeah plus their 5 free UFO’s!!!

So much weed so little time! lol

As TLD said, you can pretty much clone whenever you want. It's easier to do it earlier, and from my experience it is easier to take the lowest possible branches than attempting to clone a top. You can clone a top, but I think the success rate depends upon how "woody" your stem has become.

That's a nice strain selection too. I've got an LSD ~3 weeks into flower now and some clones that have already rooted, so we'll see what this plant has to offer. It went through a serious stretch when I first put it into flower, so I gave it a good supercropping. I've been wanting to try some of that Sharksbreath too...

Are your Dutch Passion seeds feminized? I've read a handful of threads in the past discussing DP fem seeds and their propensity to hermie...I've never grown it so I don't know, but something to be mindful of while growing. If there was a problem I hope they've rectified the situation by now.

Thanks for stopping back through skeeter, I'll get some new pics up tonight/tomorrow morning.

 

[skeeterleg]

Thanks for the info guys. Clone a frozen plant? That’s cool. Let me get my clippers!!!

My first attempt at cloning was a top but it was a young plant and took a while to root. It was from one of the males so I had to killit. Just my luck! lol

I saw you had an LSD going. Looking forward to seeing how she does for you. I have a big list I want to try. Just to compare and see what I like.

Yea the DP’s are fem. I read that too somewhere but I am hoping for the best. That’s all they had in PnM. I had a bagseed hermie last time. In fact I don’t think the Tude offers DP regular at all right now. Have you heard anything about other breeders fem seeds or just DP? I think my Sharksbreath are fem. I got 6 coming. I’ll send you one!

Love the pix man. Keepem coming!!!

Skeeter

 

[Jerry Garcia]

Thanks for the info guys. Clone a frozen plant? That’s cool. Let me get my clippers!!!

My first attempt at cloning was a top but it was a young plant and took a while to root. It was from one of the males so I had to killit. Just my luck! lol

I saw you had an LSD going. Looking forward to seeing how she does for you. I have a big list I want to try. Just to compare and see what I like.

Yea the DP’s are fem. I read that too somewhere but I am hoping for the best. That’s all they had in PnM. I had a bagseed hermie last time. In fact I don’t think the Tude offers DP regular at all right now. Have you heard anything about other breeders fem seeds or just DP? I think my Sharksbreath are fem. I got 6 coming. I’ll send you one!

Love the pix man. Keepem coming!!!

Skeeter

I've not heard anything specific regarding hermies from other breeders, but there is always that chance...I've had nothing bud good experiences with all my fem seeds.

 

[Jerry Garcia]

So I tried to snap some pics a couple days ago but my camera died on me before I could finish. I got most of the plants, but not the LSD, Chiesel or struggling OG. I'll get those up as soon as I get my camera back in working order. I did manage to get a couple current in-situ shots last night that we'll get to at the end.

First is PPP. Another very strong growing and healthy plant. It's actually gotten noticeably larger since this picture was taken on 11/27. Looking like the two main cola's are going to be ~1 foot long. This plant flowers so fast and strong it's uncanny. I love it, hence why I just rooted the 4th generation clone.

A closer shot of the tops...again, they're much more fully developed in just 4 days since these pics...

Supercropped Blue Widow. I've actually had to supercrop it again because it keeps trying to climb its way into my hps. I've started noticing some pretty severe rusting and yellow in the last day or so...I hit it with a full blast of nutrients, including cal-mag+, so there isn't much more I can do but wait and hope it doesn't get worse...right...I've got a good clone of her going though, so it's all good.

Top down shot of the Blue Widow. A little yellow around the top there...

One of the Blue Cheeses. I'm really excited for these plants, as I think their yield will be significantly better than the first batch.

Another Blue Cheese

Here's another BC.

And that's where the camera died while I was shooting. I got these next 2 last night, so they're a bit more current, though you can't really see who is who in there.

Lots of good cola action going on...just not a lot of space in which to operate. Oh well, at least I feel I'm making the most of my tiny space. One day I'll have a warehouse just for this...

Sorry for the limited update. I'll get a shot of the other plants soon...if not tonight then tomorrow night for sure. I'll also get a shot of the clones if I remember...

 

[skeeterleg]

Do you use nutes every time you water? I only feed once a week and add water in between but they seem like they could take more.

Do you use any cloning gel or root starter on your clones?

 

[skeeterleg]

Forget Jerry's Farm...It is Jerry's Jungle! lol

Nice

 

[Jerry Garcia]

Do you use nutes every time you water? I only feed once a week and add water in between but they seem like they could take more.

Do you use any cloning gel or root starter on your clones?

I had been feeding once and watering once in between, but with the recent spotting that's appeared on the Blue Widow and a few of the Blue Cheeses I decided to step it up and give them a second consecutive feeding last night.

I just try to go based on plant response. If they seem like they can take more than gradually give them a little more each feeding until you notice a little burning of the leaf tips. Back it off a bit and then you've found where your plants like it.

The LSD has been quite strange in that one of the colas has some noticeable clawing action going on, while the other 3 look fine. I'm more concerned though with one of the supercropped branches...I may have over-supercropped it! Hopefully if I just leave it alone it will strengthen up enough to support itself but I may have overdone it a bit with one of the colas.

About the rooting hormone...I use some "green light" brand powdered stuff from lowes or home depot or somewhere like that. So far I've had close to 100% for all clones that weren't tops, but I've had a handful of tops root too. I think it's more about how you clone than the rooting hormone though, whether it's gel or powder. Keep it in a high humidity environment (mine often hit 99% under my dome and 2 24" t5's) and constant lighting with an occasional misting and it will almost always root.

I just snapped a few shots of the clone chamber. The two unmarked ones on the left are LSD, then PPP, Blue Widow and Chiesel. The Chiesel has yet to show roots, but in the last couple days it has really perked up, so I'm thinking it has finally rooted and just not reached the sides of the cup yet.

What's interesting about these clones is the LSD were started way before the other three, but the PPP and BW have just taken off. I'm probably going to top them both and root their tops as clones (in fact, I'm going to do it as soon as I finish this post). These tops I think should have no trouble rooting, as they are very young and tender. It's the damn woody stemmed established tops that really have a hard time rooting.

I thought I'd take a shot of this LSD clone though because it did something interesting as well. The leaves of the clone began yellowing and browning and crisping up pretty good right around the time the clone was rooting. I though it wasn't going to make it because even the top was showing signs of necrosis. I was right, the top of the clone had already started to die off, so the plant shot out 2 new growth tips! It's like it topped itself!

Clones are so much fun! I wish I lived in Cali so I could pick them up from my neighborhood dispensary...oh wait, that would be me!

Sorry if this post was a little all over the place. I got unusually baked this morning off a few hits of Blue Cheese...

 

[skeeterleg]

Thanks for the info. I think I am going to step up the feed a bit and see what they do.

I am a little bummed because I am down to 2 plants from seven in the last week. I bought white widow and big bud seeds from marijuana-seeds.nl. Before I knew better and about breeders. Out of 6 seeds of each I only got 2 left, 1 each. The white widow were suppose to be feminized but did not show any pistols only bananas on three of them so they are dead, 2 didn’t germ. The hermie on my last grow had pistols everywhere the popped bananas. No more seeds! lol I think they sold me regular at a fem price. Two widow seeds and 3 big bud did not germ. Only one of the big bud was female. The worst thing is they were beautiful plants and I wasted a bag of FFOF soil. None of my 5 freebee mazar afghan did anything. Grew an inch and died. One is showing life at 2” in 3 weeks had room in the cab now so I left the little biotch in there to see what it will do!

I followed your lead and supercropped my big bud last night. Stretched like crazy once in flower. I thought I broke it. But this morning Walla! Perked right up! see pics

Your clones look great. You just stick them in soil and water them?

That little LSD clone is a fighter huh? That is cool how it did that. I am anxious to see how they turn out. Cant wait for my LSD seeds to arrive. Show be anytime now.

Looks like life is good on Jerry’s Farm (Jungle) !!!

 

[skeeterleg]

Check out my grow box I just built. After some trial and many errors it is working very good now.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/279041-homemade-grow-cabinet.html

 

[Jerry Garcia]

Thanks for the info. I think I am going to step up the feed a bit and see what they do.

I am a little bummed because I am down to 2 plants from seven in the last week. I bought white widow and big bud seeds from marijuana-seeds.nl. Before I knew better and about breeders. Out of 6 seeds of each I only got 2 left, 1 each. The white widow were suppose to be feminized but did not show any pistols only bananas on three of them so they are dead, 2 didn’t germ. The hermie on my last grow had pistols everywhere the popped bananas. No more seeds! lol I think they sold me regular at a fem price. Two widow seeds and 3 big bud did not germ. Only one of the big bud was female. The worst thing is they were beautiful plants and I wasted a bag of FFOF soil. None of my 5 freebee mazar afghan did anything. Grew an inch and died. One is showing life at 2” in 3 weeks had room in the cab now so I left the little biotch in there to see what it will do!

I followed your lead and supercropped my big bud last night. Stretched like crazy once in flower. I thought I broke it. But this morning Walla! Perked right up! see pics

Your clones look great. You just stick them in soil and water them?

That little LSD clone is a fighter huh? That is cool how it did that. I am anxious to see how they turn out. Cant wait for my LSD seeds to arrive. Show be anytime now.

Looks like life is good on Jerry’s Farm (Jungle) !!!

Sucks about your shitty germ rate...I've never messed with seeds from anywhere other than Attitude and they always seem to pop just fine.

Supercropping seems like such an extreme method of controlling plant growth, but they always perk right up in a day or so like nothing ever happened...

For my clones, I cut them at a 45ish degree angle and dip them immediately into a shot glass of water to prevent an air bubble from getting into the clone and doing bad things. I then scrape a bit of the exterior stem off to expose the under layers (my plant bio terminology is a bit lacking...) using a razor blade. I'll also make some slits parallel to the stem just to give the roots more surface area from which to sprout. After that I dip them in some rooting hormone, shove them into a cup of soil and water. I mist them periodically if the humidity is low (or if I'm not using the dome) and just leave them under 24/0 light until they root.

I usually root directly into ocean forest or now the biobizz light mix, but with my last 2 clones I put them into a cup with 2/3 biobizz on the bottom and 1/3 Fox Farm Light Warrior on top (so the stem only reaches into the light warrior). I've never tried this before, but TLD does something similar and it sounds like a good idea.

 

[Jerry Garcia]

Check out my grow box I just built. After some trial and many errors it is working very good now.

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/279041-homemade-grow-cabinet.html

Freaking awesome cabinet btw...

 

[skeeterleg]

Yea I am sticking with Attitude from here on. Should have my order any day now.

Supercropping make me nervous..lol The big bud actually broke or cracked open at the bend. Dint even phase it. It is reaching for the stars!

Thanks for the clone info. I did not know about the bubble thing. I am definitely going to try it on with my good beans. Plus I need to build my veg cabinet.

Thanks Jerry. I am glad you like the cabinet.

 

[SL2]

Hey Jerry

On my big bud what causes these yellow leaves dries up to a crisp? N? its just the lower big fan leaves. New groth looks ok.

 

[Jerry Garcia]

Hey Jerry

On my big bud what causes these yellow leaves dries up to a crisp? N? its just the lower big fan leaves. New groth looks ok.

Looks like an N deficiency to me. It usually happens to my lowest level of leaves as they receive little light below the canopy. Try adding some veg nutes to your flowering mix and see what happens. Once yellow though the leaves won't come back. As long as the new growth looks good I think you'll be fine.

 

[tom__420]

Could be a mag deficiency
I would add some cal-mag + and that would stop for sure

http://www.planetnatural.com/site/cal-mag.html

If you can't get that I would use epsom salts from the pharmacy

 

[SL2]

Looks like an N deficiency to me. It usually happens to my lowest level of leaves as they receive little light below the canopy. Try adding some veg nutes to your flowering mix and see what happens. Once yellow though the leaves won't come back. As long as the new growth looks good I think you'll be fine.

I will try that. Use still using FF nutes? I thought I read somewhere in the thread you changed. I may pick up some cal-mag like tom sugested.