soil ph still too high

johnny12r

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my ph is 7 -7.5 in the soil in 5 gallon buckets,so i watered with a gallon of water at 6.5 the other day and today i watered with 2 gallons at 6.2 and a good gallon came out the bottom but i just checked the soil is still over 7 what do i need to do? thanks
 

Sgt.Sly

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my ph is 7 -7.5 in the soil in 5 gallon buckets,so i watered with a gallon of water at 6.5 the other day and today i watered with 2 gallons at 6.2 and a good gallon came out the bottom but i just checked the soil is still over 7 what do i need to do? thanks
How are your plants reacting to the PH?
If you smoke a lot of weed, save your ashes, and regularily use them with your water, I don't really know how much per say, and 5 gal buckets are large. But if it were me i"d layer the top and water them in.

There are many other ways to lower PH. I'm just not fluent on using them. There's lots of answeres here tho,
 

DubsFan

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my thoughts exactly.

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Generally speaking in a soil grow you do not have to Ph your water. If your tap water is good enough for human consumption, then it's good enough for your plant. Ph'ing water in a soil grow is one thing to not worry about. My water is 8 right out of the tap. No problems. Nobody I know in the state of Ca Ph's any water in a soil grow.
 

johnny12r

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they were looking real bad thats why i am trying fix it. i think there looking better after 2 days of lower ph water .should i do 2 gallons at 6.0 when they need water again? i don't want to mess them up any more thats why i was trying to fix them with 6.5 water but if the soil is just raising the ph can i fight it with lower ph water?
 

DubsFan

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they were looking real bad thats why i am trying fix it. i think there looking better after 2 days of lower ph water .should i do 2 gallons at 6.0 when they need water again? i don't want to mess them up any more thats why i was trying to fix them with 6.5 water but if the soil is just raising the ph can i fight it with lower ph water?

Free your mind of the soil Ph game.
 

johnny12r

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my water is high off the chart and i noticed all my plants not looking to great,i'm getting light green and yellow on new and old leaves i tested my soil everything was great except the ph and the n2 was high. that's why i let a gallon run right through the bucket to wash some of it out.
 

johnny12r

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i have also had a real run of bad luck with seedlings i have had a ton die lately? i was thinking that might be the water too?
 

Hayduke

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I live in Ca...I grow in soil...and I pH ALL water that goes on my plants:bigjoint:

How are you testing the soil pH? If you are using one of those probes...they are junk!...pH your water and maybe if there is a little run-off check it to make sure it is not way off what you are watering.

Also My plants prefer to stay below 6.4 (closer to 6 the better)...my water and nutes would like to be 6.6:cuss:

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DubsFan

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ok what should i be looking at?for the most part they look good but i have bad spots and a lot of the new lower growth died? can it be the high n2? thanks for the help.
Photos...
Strain...
Soil...

Get us those three and there are many people on here that can look at the plant and tell you. It's not your Ph. Just water as usual for not until you get pics up along with some basic grow info.

Keep in mind that there are many many acres of outdoor grown in NorCal and nobody is Ph'ing hundreds of gallons a week of water for their 30 outdoor plants.

Just to put soil Ph into perspective...
 

johnny12r

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thanks i do have one of the junk probs but i have a soil test kit too with the pills you mix in the soil with bottled water and it read 7 too. and the n2 is off the chart high.i'll test my run off the next time i water them.
 

johnny12r

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i'm in garden soil mixed with perlite and i just transplanted in to the 5 gallon buckets with pro mix thats what i'm going to use from now on .i was using half what the directions said of miracle grow quick start but its been nothing but water for 2 weeks now due to the high n2 .
 

Sgt.Sly

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i'm in garden soil mixed with perlite and i just transplanted in to the 5 gallon buckets with pro mix thats what i'm going to use from now on .i was using half what the directions said of miracle grow quick start but its been nothing but water for 2 weeks now due to the high n2 .
Hey I've been trying to rack my experiences to help you, maybe there's something your not looking at.

If your ph's are high, it means your water is very Alkaline or possibly your soil medium...MJ grows best in neutral to slightly acidic soils. Take a sample of your water in for analasys. I found my tap water was so hard it was causing nutrient lockouts. And some municipal water suppilys use a lot of chlorine in the water, very horrible on plants.

I'll keep thinkin about this as you post more....Soil grows are fairly pain free, so your problem's cause is maybe very simple and being over looked.

Adding Peat moss to a soil mix will make a higher alkaline soil go closer to neutral due to peat's acidity.

AND lets not forget OVER WATERING! You are letting that soil dry out after each watering right?
 

DubsFan

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Hey I've been trying to rack my experiences to help you, maybe there's something your not looking at.

If your ph's are high, it means your water is very Alkaline or possibly your soil medium...MJ grows best in neutral to slightly acidic soils. Take a sample of your water in for analasys. I found my tap water was so hard it was causing nutrient lockouts. And some municipal water suppilys use a lot of chlorine in the water, very horrible on plants.

I'll keep thinkin about this as you post more....Soil grows are fairly pain free, so your problem's cause is maybe very simple and being over looked.

Adding Peat moss to a soil mix will make a higher alkaline soil go closer to neutral due to peat's acidity.

AND lets not forget OVER WATERING! You are letting that soil dry out after each watering right?
Looked at your pics. Looks like nute burn and possibly some overwatering. If I had to guess I would think you're lights are flouro's? Plants look a little leggy and my guess is those clones were cut off a flowering mom (three bladed fans).

Look man, I know you're leaning towards a Ph issue. I'm being very real with you. Mr. Fdd himeself, the man with 40,000 posts to his name who grows 4lbs + per plant in soil is more than likely not Ph'ing his water. The few that Ph their soil are wasting their time. It just doesn't matter.

No difference in yeild or flavor. If you can drink it you can water a plant with it. The "scientists" on here won't agree with me and thats fine. I just left NorCal for the holidays. Stopped by three grow rooms. Two were new to me. One was soil. Approx 24 plants...he litteraly has a spicket from his yard running from PVC pipe into his grow room where a hose is attached. He doesn't Ph water and he's been in the game a while. A stubborn soil grower as a matter of fact. He refuses to look at hydro...

I suggest moving on from Ph and addressing what looks like nute burn and overwatering.
 

Sgt.Sly

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Looked at your pics. Looks like nute burn and possibly some overwatering. If I had to guess I would think you're lights are flouro's? Plants look a little leggy and my guess is those clones were cut off a flowering mom (three bladed fans).

Look man, I know you're leaning towards a Ph issue. I'm being very real with you. Mr. Fdd himeself, the man with 40,000 posts to his name who grows 4lbs + per plant in soil is more than likely not Ph'ing his water. The few that Ph there soil are wasting there time. It just doesn't matter.

No difference in yeild or flavor. If you can drink it you can water a plant with it. The "scientists" on here won't agree with me and thats fine. I just left NorCal for the holidays. Stopped by three grow rooms. Two were new to me. One was soil. Approx 24 plants...he litteraly has a spicket from his yard running from PVC pipe into his grow room where a hose is attached. He doesn't Ph water and he's been in the game a while. A stubborn soil grower as a matter of fact. He refuses to look at hydro...

I suggest moving on from Ph and addressing what looks like nute burn and overwatering.
What pictures of mine did you look at? What clones?

And PH can be a serious problem for some because not everyone shares the same water supply.
 

DubsFan

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What pictures of mine did you look at? What clones?

And PH can be a serious problem for some because not everyone shares the same water supply.
You provided a link a number of posts ago.

Of course not everyone has the same water supply. But everyone drinking that water is human. If you can drink it you can grow in soil with excellent results. I'm really trying to tell you man...don't play the Ph game with soil.

If tap Ph matters so much with soil why is nobody checking their PPM? I have one buddy with tap water at 50ppm yet I'm at 500. We both havet 8 Ph'd water. Dude look, it's not your Ph, it's not your water. Your Ph chase is making you lose focus.

I'm really trying to help here bro.

:bigjoint:
 

jsteezy1290

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ive also been told ph is not a problem when growing because we are technically growing a weed and people tend to look to much into it and overdue it and thats usually what causes the problems, i to have experienced plant problems and did all i could but in the end they are still growing strong
 

DubsFan

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ive also been told ph is not a problem when growing because we are technically growing a weed and people tend to look to much into it and overdue it and thats usually what causes the problems, i to have experienced plant problems and did all i could but in the end they are still growing strong

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